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Schools could reopen in weeks

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Orangeblossom78 · 10/04/2020 15:21

In todays "Times"

"Schools could reopen in a few weeks as coronavirus restrictions begin to be lifted, Public Health England suggested this morning.

Paul Cosford, the agency’s emeritus medical director, said that easing the lockdown for the young first was being considered as ministers look to set out an exit plan for the coming weeks.

Finding a way out of lockdown is the government’s “number one topic and priority”, according to Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London, one of its leading advisers on the epidemic.

Professor Cosford said: “People are doing really well with the social distancing and it is working as far as we can see to flatten this pandemic,” but acknowledged the balance between controlling the epidemic and allowing normal life to resume.

He said that now was not the moment to relent, telling Today on BBC Radio 4: “Once you start getting things under control, that’s the time you absolutely need to continue with all your measures so that you can bring the disease right down and crack it.”

He expects there to be “a lot of discussions over the next week or so” about an exit strategy. Asked if restrictions might be eased in several weeks, he said: “I think several weeks isn’t unreasonable. Let’s hope it’s sooner than that.”

He said that starting by letting the young resume normal life was being considered. “The importance of children’s education, children being in school is paramount. That’s not the only issue but I could conceive of circumstances where some of the restrictions are lifted sooner and some are lifted later,” he said.

“There are some really difficult issues here because if you look at children and the closure of schools, a very important measure to help get this under control, but we do know that children are very low risk of getting serious complications of this disease.”

Professor Ferguson told the same programme that while hospital admissions appeared to be plateauing, “it’s going to be several more weeks before we can definitively conclude anything about the rate of decline and therefore when measures could be lifted”.

He said it was “good news” that more people were obeying social distancing rules than the government expected and said that “measures will be targeted probably by age, by geography” on lifting lockdown.

“There are lots of ideas worth exploring. That’s what’s happening right now. We clearly don’t want these measures to continue longer than is absolutely necessary — the economic costs, social costs, personal costs and health costs are huge.”

Head teachers are lobbying the government to reopen schools before the summer holidays, even for just a few weeks, if scientific advice says that it is safe.

Paul Whiteman and Geoff Barton, the general secretaries of the NAHT and ASCL head teachers’ unions, have told ministers pupils would benefit greatly from schools reopening before the summer, rather than waiting until September.

They believe that even a few weeks of school would help pupils remember what formal learning is like and what is required of them. If schools do not open before the summer children will have been away from the classroom and formal learning for more than five months.

The Department for Education is said to have shown a “genuine interest” in the approach, which would see pupils return for a number of weeks during the summer term to “reacquaint themselves with the educational environment”.

The government has made clear that it is too soon to consider reopening schools after the Easter holidays following speculation that pupils could return as soon as April 20.

“That said, once the scientific advice is that schools can return safely, they should do so, even if it’s for a very limited period before the summer break, as this will allow young people to reacquaint themselves with the educational environment,” the two leaders told Schools Week journal.

However, they warned that any return to normality “has to be a planned one”.

“It can’t be about flicking a switch on a Friday night and then thinking it’s all going to be all right on a Monday morning,” they said.

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Tunnocks34 · 10/04/2020 15:55

I also think it will open June time with a staggered return, maybe year 7 and 10 in secondary plus key worker children or something, leading up to a full intake for September. Our head doesn’t think it will open until September though so that is just my own musing

salemcat · 10/04/2020 15:56

It is a tough one, they need the children back so a lot of parents can return to work, but they can not send them back too earlier.
We are working on possibly the end of August ( Scotland ) for school & college.
I really do not think it will be January 2021.

neveradullmoment99 · 10/04/2020 15:56

Not even China has opened its schools. FFS Stop pushing this agenda. It is, I agree, completely irresponsible.
It is totally clear that this virus is far more lethal than first imagined. It is just a totally ridiculous suggestion, with business pushing this agenda.
This isn't just about the children. This is about parents, staff, grandparents and in actual fact you OP. Are you saying that you want the virus? Children are super spreaders and will spread it far and wide. Stop posting shite.

neveradullmoment99 · 10/04/2020 15:58

It 11 wks of lockdown in Wuhan. The children are not back at schools.

Ohnoducks · 10/04/2020 15:59

12 week shielding period is up 14th June initially. I can't see a mass return to schools before this date both due to volnerable children and teachers

neveradullmoment99 · 10/04/2020 16:00

Exactly @Ohnoducks

AmelieTaylor · 10/04/2020 16:00

They believe that even a few weeks of school would help pupils remember what formal learning is like and what is required of them

🙄🙄🙄what a lot of shite.

If schools do not open before the summer children will have been away from the classroom and formal learning for more than five months

....and ‍🤷🏻‍♀️

There's more to life...

whatsthatnow74 · 10/04/2020 16:01

January 2021😂😆

neveradullmoment99 · 10/04/2020 16:01

Well said @AmelieTaylor

I am a teacher. There is more to life than school

Sweetpotatoaddict · 10/04/2020 16:01

Schools in Denmark reopen next week. It will be interesting to see what effect that has. Until the uk has a much more robust testing system in place then I can’t really see much happening. However it would be sad to see pubs opening before children return to school.

Ponoka7 · 10/04/2020 16:02

I found it shocking that last night on the BBC it was, said that the passport Staff could return to work and Government officials wouldn't say that they shouldn't. The assumption was made that everyone had cars.

The first thing that needs to happen is for transport to go back to normal. I was on a bus yesterday and today and because of the reduced service, they are packed.

Public transport, see how it spikes things, so around three weeks, none essential shops, then schools.

Appuskidu · 10/04/2020 16:02

I reckon they will probably look at reopening schools after the May half term. That way, the 12 week shielding will be over so all school staff would be able to go in.

That isn’t over till mid June, I don’t think?

Bookoffacts · 10/04/2020 16:03

I told you it'd be summer half term!
Every one said September but they were never going to leave it that long.
Good news indeed 😊
Very glad for the yr6, yr11 and yr 13 especially.
But all of them too.
A half term of professional recoopertion work, mending from a global crisis. No exams to worry about. I've posted about this a couple of weeks back.
I'm a teacher and an at risk one too but I'm glad for the kids. (I'm sure at risk teachers won't need to work btw. I was practically thrown out, kindly, when they found out just before lockdown, that I had a high risk lung condition)

dannydyerismydad · 10/04/2020 16:03

@purpledaises. I know the whole household doesn't have to shield. But every time you leave the house you risk bringing something back with you. That something may well kill DH - that's why he's being shielded. I'm not prepared to take the risk.

Expecting a primary aged child to take the correct precautions unsupervised while at school? It won't happen.

While we all stay shielded the shielded person can move freely around the house. If people start coming and going DH will have to occupy another room and not come into contact with us. That's no fun for anyone.

neveradullmoment99 · 10/04/2020 16:03

Well Swedish deaths are soaring and they have kept their schools open.

Ponoka7 · 10/04/2020 16:03

"However it would be sad to see pubs opening before children return to school."

It would be a good indication of how people will behave before we put vulnerable families at risk.

runningwoman1980s · 10/04/2020 16:03

The earliest I think would be after the may half term.

Appuskidu · 10/04/2020 16:05

Schools in Denmark reopen next week. It will be interesting to see what effect that has.

Yes, though they are opening with no more than 10 to a class including the teacher, and stringent social distancing/cleaning/testing.

rc22 · 10/04/2020 16:05

Staggered return would be good. It will be quite difficult for younger children to go straight back into school after spending such a lot of time at home just with immediate family so it would be useful if schools actually went back a couple of weeks after some other social distancing measures were lifted. Children could then meet up with friends on a more informal,social basis before they're flung back into a formal classroom setting.

Ponoka7 · 10/04/2020 16:05

Actually it would be, transport, the NHS back, Non essential shops, then schools.

You're looking at two months, minimum. Which is supposed to be the time we need for an antibody test.

DivGirl · 10/04/2020 16:06

@Bookoffacts Did you read the article or any of the comments? They've given absolutely no further information at all...

MoonlightDancer · 10/04/2020 16:06

@AmelieTaylor Well said!

Bookoffacts · 10/04/2020 16:08

In UK 2020 schools were due back, nationally, as it's a fixed holiday due to GCSEs, on Monday 1st June 2020.
Ideal really.
I'm welling up thinking of the year 6 celebrations and final weeks that will be back being able to take place. And yr11 and yr 13 too.

Healthyandhappy · 10/04/2020 16:09

The government have said they will pay wages for 3 months we have had 1 month already nearly so another 2 month which is fine I'm working from home and teaching kidd and will be putting around 300 quid away next month as saving loads not travelling lol. Hopefully okay by august for my caravan holiday lol

JesmondDene · 10/04/2020 16:10

Maybe London - centric? but won't happen everywhere.
My LA have just said that the peak here is expected at the end of May/early June - so unless teaching staff are going to be moved from elsewhere ( of course not) we aren't likely to have enough of a workforce to open schools

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