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AIBU?

To think this is torturing single people?

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VirtualHugsAllRound · 26/03/2020 08:55

Even if it's intermittent lockdown and social distancing... Both mean you're not supposed to meet with family and friends.
If you live alone this is torture. Isolation is used as torture/punishment fgs!
We're always being shown that families are more important, that we've failed by not having a partner and reproducing. Now we are expected to live in isolation for months on end.
And at the end of it, no one is going to say "well done for undergoing months of torture to protect others" or support us with healing from the trauma this will cause. As usual, just expected to suck it up.

I cant do this.

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3rdNamechange · 29/03/2020 18:51

It's not being used as torture or punishment here OP it's being used to save lives.
'I can't do this'
Sorry , but you've got no choice.
I really hope we're soon in full lockdown with the Army on the streets.

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cheeserem · 29/03/2020 19:14

@3rdNamechange wtf is wrong with you. First of all, have some compassion!! Secondly hoping for lockdown with army on the streets is so wrong, why would you want that for gods sake?! It's important to save lives of course 100% but people like you who are actually enjoying this well you have issues.

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Baluchistan95 · 29/03/2020 19:18

Glad you're feeling better OP.

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3rdNamechange · 29/03/2020 21:55

Strangely @cheeserem I’m not enjoying it. I’m frontline NHS and I’ve already done 36 extra hours this week.
But thanks for the assumption

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ocarinan · 29/03/2020 21:59

@babdoc

Any opportunity to proselytize. 🙄

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3rdNamechange · 29/03/2020 22:01

@cheeserem my colleagues are dropping like flies. We can’t get tested. We’re all shitting ourselves
My partner lives abroad and I’ve no idea when I’ll see him again ( or if , I suppose)

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EmeraldShamrock · 30/03/2020 00:01

@3rdNamechange Thank you for the work you do. If army on the streets is what it takes then why not.
People need to follow the rules, even to show respect to those essential workers who don't have the opportunity to lock down. Yes it is shit it is a pandemic.

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TheYearOfTheDog · 30/03/2020 00:59

Awful. Im scared going to work and im not frontline.

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Macncheeseballs · 30/03/2020 05:51

3rdnamechange - 100% agree and thank you!

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Vampyress · 30/03/2020 08:29

The NHS is literally screaming for volunteers to support the vulnerable or elderly at this time. Perhaps offer your sevices, a chat with somone at the supermarket while grabbing supplies etc is still human interaction and might keep you busy enough that you don't dwell on how hard times are.

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Octopus37 · 30/03/2020 08:34

Sorry to state the obvious, but we all need to have some empathy for each other. All of this is going to have a negative impact on mental health for so many and subsequently on the mental health services. Its not a case of who's got the worst deal and only that person being allowed to complain everyone's deal is hard in different ways. However, I think we need to be very thankful for technology

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Xenia · 30/03/2020 08:41

Yes, the country is going to have to make hard choices. If it takes 9 hours plus to send out ambulances then I would prefer they took in younger people over older unless the young person would have died very soon anyway from something else even if that means I die for example.

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Linning · 30/03/2020 08:58

Didn't read the full the thread as, as someone with an history of mental health issue and now on almost week 4 of lockdown (not in the UK) and finding it really hard, I found most response upsetting but wanted to validate your feeling.

Lockdown in the UK just started so right now most people are in '' finding joy in focusing on myself phase" but since I am a couple of weeks beyond that point, I will tell you that your fears are valid, because 4 weeks ago my mental health was at it's best, as was my life, but after a month of isolation (and lockdown has just been extended for another month today) I am starting to really see the impact of isolation on my mental health and it is TERRIFYING. I have worked SO HARD for my mental health and to get where I am (was?) mentally, and I am currently seeing it crumbling in front of me without being able to use any of the coping mechanism I would normally use and it is very scary for me.

People who say things such as '' isolation saves life (so shut up and don't complain)" don't seem to realize that ''socialisation also save lives." and can be vital for people who suffer with mental health issues while isolation can indeed be pure torture.

People love to make comparison with '' Nurses have it worse.", '' Try being old and frail'', '' Imagine going through abuse.'' as if it's relevant, as if there is no more than one way to suffer.

Well I have gone through a shit tone of abuse in my life, from sexual assault as a child and a teenager to mental and physical abuse from parents and yet, out of all the form of abuse I have gone through, isolation and having too much time to be into my own head has always been the worst. I have worked really hard to overcome the years of abuse and to get my mental health in a good place and people who make these type of comments don't understand how trauma works. They don't understand that while abuse is traumatic while it's occurring, the trauma that comes with surviving abuse is something on a whole other level. The act of surviving sexual assault as a child took me as long as the sexual assault actively took, but surviving the outcome of being sexually assaulted (or physically or mentally) took ten time the time it took to survive the act. I am still surviving it as I type and it's a daily battle. Some days are easier than others and in normal circumstances I would say I am fine, but those aren't normal circumstances and when people make comments like they have done to you about ''being grateful'' our main concern is being ''alone'' and not sick/a nurse/looking after an autistic child, it makes my blood fucking boil because I feel the same way about them. Well wouldn't I love it if the only traumatic thing in my life would be worrying about my health knowing that if I die in the frontline I die a fucking hero having saved as many lives as I possibly could? Wouldn't I love it if I had made it to old age and frail and the only time I ever had to feel alone and lonely was in death ? Would it be that traumatic if I could have a magic wand and erase all the abuse I had to go through in exchange for a child with autism? Of course all of those situation are hard and traumatic in their own ways and deserve their own acknowledgment but it's so fucking rude of people to suggest that my mental health and survival is somehow not as important as the health and survival of a 93YO granny or as hard as the mother of a child with autism. I wonder how many of the people who made those suggestions would genuinely swap their lives with mine and suggest they are better off?

A lot of my surviving years of abuse was through doing stuff that require some sort of socialization and me staying away from my own thoughts and right now I have LOTS of time with my thoughts and none of my coping mechanism that help my PTSD and other outcomes from trauma that is starting to creep back up due to isolation available, and no real end date as to when I can expect to have access to those coping mechanism again, and it is terrifying and truly hellish for me. So much that if signing up to be sexually assaulted as a child again today would guarantee the end of the lockdown and a return to normalcy and would in turn make my mental health go back to what it was a month or so ago. I would sign RIGHT NOW and travel back in time and go through it all again because I know I can survive assault but the depression and mental health issues isolation create for me is another whole kettle of fish I had hoped never to have to face again and people who can't realize that for some people isolation isn't as simple as occupying yourself and being grateful you aren't affected by corona, have no understanding of life outside their own privileged bubbles.

Glad you are feeling a bit better though, OP and hope you continue to see positivity in the next couple of weeks, in the meantime know you aren't alone and that your feelings are 100% valid! Flowers

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MarginalGain · 30/03/2020 09:00

The NHS is literally screaming for volunteers to support the vulnerable or elderly at this time.

This is ridiculously untrue. They have far too many volunteers, they'll never use them all.

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MarginalGain · 30/03/2020 09:01

Lockdown in the UK just started so right now most people are in '' finding joy in focusing on myself phase" but since I am a couple of weeks beyond that point, I will tell you that your fears are valid, because 4 weeks ago my mental health was at it's best, as was my life, but after a month of isolation (and lockdown has just been extended for another month today) I am starting to really see the impact of isolation on my mental health and it is TERRIFYING. I have worked SO HARD for my mental health and to get where I am (was?) mentally, and I am currently seeing it crumbling in front of me without being able to use any of the coping mechanism I would normally use and it is very scary for me.

I'm sorry to hear this. Flowers

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LotsaDo · 30/03/2020 09:03

Any opportunity to proselytize. 🙄

No problem with trying to offer comfort to people.

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LotsaDo · 30/03/2020 09:06

Linning

Flowers

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BlimeyCalmDown · 30/03/2020 09:08

Sorry NRTWT


Call your crisis line to see if the local MH team are doing groups by video conferencing or with an app like zoom or house party.

A lot of local areas are taking on volunteers and providing support to those struggling with isolation via t/c so they do not feel so alone.

I send all my time chatting on FB, sharing funny meme about isolation, whatsapp, texting etc which I find really helpful. In between netflix and prime video

xxx

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PotholeParadise · 30/03/2020 09:10

OP, I'm glad you're feeling a little better.

It's all going to be very difficult for us all, and I think it makes it worse that we're not all in the same boat.

As a broad generalisation, we have the non key workers who are obliged to stay at home, whose mental health is going to suffer, and we have the key workers who are obliged to work and run the risk of contracting this virus, and who wish they could be at home.

It's a horrendous situation. I have been in isolation since mid-February, and I am desperately missing my friends now. I don't know when I'll see them again, and seeing their FB posts just isn't the same, is it?

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BrexpatInSwitzerland · 30/03/2020 09:10

Surely we can agree that this is just a crap situation for a lot of people and not a competition?

I struggle with the isolation, too, FWIW. Ido have a child, siblings and a parent - but we're all separated at the moment and will be for the time being. I long for them doing my head in - but I'm sure I'd be dying to have some alone time if we were all lovked up in a house together, too!

FWIW, I literally had a dream in which my boss (literally the person I see most often due to videoconferencing - they start to grow on you) gave me the lovliest, longest, warmest hug last night, and it was bliss. Then I woke up, remembered it was my boss and started to seriously wonder if this was starting to affect my sanity ...

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Babdoc · 30/03/2020 10:18

Ocarinan,, you misunderstand me. I am not so crass as to use a vulnerable patient with mental health problems as a chance to “proselytise”, as you put it.
I am ill with Covid 19 myself, currently struggling after a week of it, and my intention, as a retired doctor, human being and Christian, is to offer some encouragement to poor OP, a fellow human who is also having a struggle.
Please have a little faith in human nature, even if you have none in God - most of us post here from motives of kindness, not to push our own agendas.
I pray that you find some love and trust in others, and try to give people the benefit of any doubt.

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Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 30/03/2020 13:53

Any opportunity to proselytize.

I agree. I question any God who would stand by and watch this number of people dying in a most awful way. Yet some posters think we can get comfort from it - how?

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Vanhi · 30/03/2020 15:31

I really hope we're soon in full lockdown with the Army on the streets.

Across the army, navy and airforce, including regulars, volunteers and other personnel, the UK armed forces numbers a little over 190,000. Good luck with having them keep charge of 67 million people.

As for the proselytising, as an atheist I find it deeply offensive. I do however filter it out. If it takes fairy stories to get you through this, so be it.

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