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AIBU in feeling my mother is off the scale selfish and callous?

201 replies

Kippenbelladonna · 25/03/2020 23:45

My mother doesn’t want us to use my parents’ empty flat to keep ourselves safe during this epidemic. So, the background is as follows: I’m an only child and my son is her only grandchild. I’m a senior clinician in a small specialist inpatient unit and we have already had one confirmed COVID case in the hospital. I must continue to look after patients. My husband is in a high risk category with a probable 10% mortality if he catches COVID. My son is very young, has ADHD and is very exuberant, tactile and therefore a high infection transmission risk. We have no close family and I can’t imagine anyone wanting to look after our child with the risk to them of catching COVID if both of us fall ill. We live in the epicentre of the epidemic in the UK. My parents are safely self isolating in a European country with better medical resources and they will not return to the UK until this epidemic is well over. My mother is very concerned about their health and was sending me media updates regularly, well before we approached lockdown, so she is not in denial with regards to the risks, certainly not when it comes to her own well being. We started a major house renovation project two months ago and she made it clear we could not use their flat, which is within walking distance of our house, during the project and should find temporary accommodation. We have been perfectly comfortable at home and I was happy with my decision to stay in the house and felt no need to move out. There’s less space due to boxes, risk from scaffolding etc but whilst my son was out all day when the workmen were in the house and the risk of COVID was low, we were all fine. Now, the risk of cross infection with a young tactile child at home 24/7 is high. When I told her we needed to use her flat as my husband and son now needed to self isolate together, to keep us safe as a family, her immediate response was “my flat will be wrecked, it’s an invasion of my privacy and I don’t want anyone sleeping in my bed”. I was so shocked by her response I put the phone down on her. Over the years and from a young age I have supported my parents through their respective mental health problems, serious physical illnesses and even supported them financially, when I was in my 20s and now they would be considered wealthy by almost anyone’s standards. I know if the tables were turned, my mother would absolutely demand to use our property and consider it her right to do so. Yet her response was also to say “what are other families doing?” When I told her that in Italy clinicians and members of their families were dying, which she well knows as she’s glued to the news, she chose to ignore what I said rather than being glad she could offer support to keep us safe.
So I haven’t spoken to her for a week and she text me today to say that on no account should I allow my cleaner to go to her flat as she’s got a lot of expensive jewellery. Clearly she’s more interested in her possessions than she is about how we are all coping as a family and whether we even have enough food to eat! I’m physically and emotionally exhausted by everything I’ve had to cope with over the last fortnight.
Am I being unreasonable to think this is not how a loving mother should react to this scenario? Does anyone else out there have a mother like mine?? I need some perspective!

OP posts:
JudyCoolibar · 26/03/2020 22:57

I rather doubt that the police will be eager to pursue a Vagrancy Act prosecution against someone in OP's circumstances.

Cohle · 26/03/2020 23:22

Of course it's unlikely that criminal charges would be brought.

But it's misleading to suggest that the OP couldn't face criminal charges if she simply helped herself to her parent's house.

She'd probably fall foul of the recent laws against squatting in a residential property too.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 26/03/2020 23:30

I would really struggle to have any relationship with her again. What a fucking narc. This virus is sadly bringing out the worst in some people and showing their true colours in the way they treat others. Never ever forget this OP, for me I think the love would just stop.

Lynda07 · 27/03/2020 00:04

Kipper, well done for moving your husband and son into the flat, it really is for the best and no harm will come of it.

Let's hope all this won't last too much longer, it's horrible to think of families being torn apart.

Wine
CoolCarrie · 27/03/2020 00:34

You have done the right thing op, I would have done the same in your shoes. Clearly your mother wants everything her way, and your relationship with her is a one way street, all her way. After this is all over you should think about having the bare minimum contact with her.
I feel sorry for your dad, but he is obviously an enabler

stuckinthemiddlewithtwats · 27/03/2020 00:45

Both my DP and I have selfish mothers who would likely be the same as yours in your situation. Your mother is clearly callous and I certainly would not be checking her flat for her while she's away if she won't let you use it.

My DP's mother has decamped to his home and moved in while he's been staying with me after our baby's birth. She's been in contact with a Coronavirus case and instead of staying in her home, she's moved into my DP's as she basically doesn't want to pay for her own upkeep while she's unable to work (she will still have to pay rent/bills on her home and will still be paid by her employer). He now cannot go home due to the risk.
We planned to use his home if one of us needed to isolate as he is an emergency services worker so more likely to get infected - and potentially pass it to our baby. We had no idea she was planning to move in without agreement from my DP and I personally find her rude and selfish to do something so potentially dangerous to our health.
It's looking like she doesn't have Coronavirus, just a cold, but it was still a stupid thing to do, plus very selfish to expect to be looked after and paid for, for the foreseeable future until her work reopens.

I do wonder sometimes why some people bothered to become parents in the first place.

Eckhart · 27/03/2020 00:54

I looked at your big update; I'm horrified by your mother. You have keys because she expects you to take care of things there, but won't let you stay, when your/her family are at risk, and she can't come back?

How dare she?

'I expect you to check on my flat and make sure everything is fine, but I don't mind if my grandchild gets Coronavirus- I'm ok to have that on my conscience'

There's no love or respect here. Or even decency.

Leaannb · 27/03/2020 01:10

@JudyCoolibar There is a very good reason why she can't go back and forth to the flat. She will still be exposing her at risk husband and child which is the whole reason for them to be squatting in the flat to begin with

JudyCoolibar · 27/03/2020 07:45

@Leeannb, you've misunderstood my post. At the relevant time it appeared that it was OP who would be living in the flat. She's clarified it subsequently.

Sushiroller · 27/03/2020 07:51

You did the right thing.

Hope you and your family stay safe

timeisnotaline · 27/03/2020 10:08

Christ what an update op, I’m glad you’ve moved in. ‘Mum why would you think I will get medicine for you to keep healthy when you won’t help me keep my child and husband healthy and alive? They are absolutely my priority right now, as my family who care about me. Why don’t you guys call me when the lockdown is over.’
I know you won’t send that as you have moved family in now but I think, in the future, you might.
Stay safe and healthy op.

AmelieTaylor · 27/03/2020 10:24

Well done🌷 you’ve done what you needed to do. Ignore the twatty reply’s about you breaking the law etc

Your mum is a complete butcg, sorry, but she is.

Some parents do not deserve the title mir their children's love & loyalty. I’m sorry she’s like that.

I’d have had you moved in there for the renovation, let alone this!! I can’t believe she has a flat right near you but was insistent you should rent somewhere. She’s nasty & batshit.

Your DH should move into her room & get your DS into a proper bed. She’s not coming back for MONTHS. -deal with the bed then. At worst buy her a new mattress & out here into a spare room at home.

If the flat is empty for 10 days before they come back the surfaces etc will be fine & you can clean them before that anyway.

You are a complete star working through this and it’s much appreciated 🌟🌷😘

But even if you weren’t & this still kept any of you safer, it would be the right thing to do.

Her attitude is incredibly hurtful, your separated from your DH & DS and your frontline NHS. - my admiration for you knows no bounds. Take care of yourself if yourself xx

AmelieTaylor · 27/03/2020 10:28

Jesus wept the replies re ‘the law’. I rather think the courts might be a bit too busy after this to be taking a case against an NHS worker daughter, with a vulnerable DH and a child with SEN to court for them staying in her mothers empty flat FFS

@Kippenbelladonna. If they do I'm sure we’ll all be happy to chip in to get it sorted. 💕

timeisnotaline · 27/03/2020 10:46

Your DH should move into her room & get your DS into a proper bed. She’s not coming back for MONTHS. -deal with the bed then.
Yes this is a good idea .

timeisnotaline · 27/03/2020 10:49

And not just her mothers empty flat Amelie! Her mothers empty flat she was given the key and expected to enter regularly for whatever her mum wanted done. Can’t see the police caring. Op says ‘it must have been a miscommunication, I’m sure mum said it was fine when we spoke and I said how anxious I was about being so exposed with a vulnerable family.’ Police: yes well stressful times, misunderstandings happen, glad everyone’s well and thank you for what you’ve done for everyone.

Windyatthebeach · 27/03/2020 10:54

Personally I would just block her for now. She gives you /dc no thought. Please return that feeling...
And remember when she needs her arse wiped she can pay someone to do it...

GilbertMarkham · 27/03/2020 11:02

What an utter c*nt.

She has a personality disorder or something, right?

Cohle · 27/03/2020 11:02

Yes being an NHS worker does give you carte blanche to break any laws you fancy Hmm

EasterEggz · 27/03/2020 11:07

I have a mother like this OP. She is on the narcissistic spectrum and ultimately nothing you can say or do will change her view of the world. I'm afraid you need to de-invest in the relationship. Stop helping her financially, and never expect her to help you. It's sad, but I know this. Keep conversations to arms length chit chat, or cut her out altogether. Imagine her flat doesn't exist - what would you do in that scenario? That's what you need to do now. Forget her and focus on your family and your incredible work. Thanks

EasterEggz · 27/03/2020 11:11

Sorry, just saw your update. However my advice on how to manage the relationship still stands. Stop doing stuff for her. You have other urgent priorities.

strawberry2017 · 27/03/2020 11:33

I think once this is all over you need to seriously evaluate your relationship with her.
When she comes back you can 100% guarantee that she will Bitch about something at the flat.
Her first concern should be family not material things.
I'm sorry that this has bought out your mothers true colours.
Thank you for all that you are doing for our country OP. X

MayTheGodsBeEverInYourFavour · 27/03/2020 15:11

She wants you to check her flat? You can only do that if someone is living in it. You obviously can't travel to do so, it's not essential travel, & therefore not allowed.

Rinsefirst · 27/03/2020 20:11

@stuckinthemiddlewithtwats if DP mother just has cold I would evict her ASAP not quite sure how, but I’d definitely have a go

TruculentandFarty · 27/03/2020 22:05

I think your mother is being an arsehat and in your circumstances I'd have a hard time talking civilly to her, BUT I think it is her prerogative to say no.

TruculentandFarty · 27/03/2020 22:14

@stuckinthemiddlewithtwats IIWY if DP gets exposed or sick he should just move back to his place and tell his mother he is doing so.

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