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AIBU in feeling my mother is off the scale selfish and callous?

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Kippenbelladonna · 25/03/2020 23:45

My mother doesn’t want us to use my parents’ empty flat to keep ourselves safe during this epidemic. So, the background is as follows: I’m an only child and my son is her only grandchild. I’m a senior clinician in a small specialist inpatient unit and we have already had one confirmed COVID case in the hospital. I must continue to look after patients. My husband is in a high risk category with a probable 10% mortality if he catches COVID. My son is very young, has ADHD and is very exuberant, tactile and therefore a high infection transmission risk. We have no close family and I can’t imagine anyone wanting to look after our child with the risk to them of catching COVID if both of us fall ill. We live in the epicentre of the epidemic in the UK. My parents are safely self isolating in a European country with better medical resources and they will not return to the UK until this epidemic is well over. My mother is very concerned about their health and was sending me media updates regularly, well before we approached lockdown, so she is not in denial with regards to the risks, certainly not when it comes to her own well being. We started a major house renovation project two months ago and she made it clear we could not use their flat, which is within walking distance of our house, during the project and should find temporary accommodation. We have been perfectly comfortable at home and I was happy with my decision to stay in the house and felt no need to move out. There’s less space due to boxes, risk from scaffolding etc but whilst my son was out all day when the workmen were in the house and the risk of COVID was low, we were all fine. Now, the risk of cross infection with a young tactile child at home 24/7 is high. When I told her we needed to use her flat as my husband and son now needed to self isolate together, to keep us safe as a family, her immediate response was “my flat will be wrecked, it’s an invasion of my privacy and I don’t want anyone sleeping in my bed”. I was so shocked by her response I put the phone down on her. Over the years and from a young age I have supported my parents through their respective mental health problems, serious physical illnesses and even supported them financially, when I was in my 20s and now they would be considered wealthy by almost anyone’s standards. I know if the tables were turned, my mother would absolutely demand to use our property and consider it her right to do so. Yet her response was also to say “what are other families doing?” When I told her that in Italy clinicians and members of their families were dying, which she well knows as she’s glued to the news, she chose to ignore what I said rather than being glad she could offer support to keep us safe.
So I haven’t spoken to her for a week and she text me today to say that on no account should I allow my cleaner to go to her flat as she’s got a lot of expensive jewellery. Clearly she’s more interested in her possessions than she is about how we are all coping as a family and whether we even have enough food to eat! I’m physically and emotionally exhausted by everything I’ve had to cope with over the last fortnight.
Am I being unreasonable to think this is not how a loving mother should react to this scenario? Does anyone else out there have a mother like mine?? I need some perspective!

OP posts:
Leaannb · 26/03/2020 00:15

@ContessaferJones All viruses mutate and get stronger. Case in point Flu type A. Do you know what Type A flu is? Its swine flu. People think it has gone away but it kills thousands every year due to its mutation. And no I meant cure. There are no cures for viruses only treatment of the symptoms and your immune system fights the actual virus

cherrypieandcheese · 26/03/2020 00:18

I'm so sorry OP. I have seen on Facebook many air bnb owners lending out their properties for free for those in similar situations to you, you could see if anyone can help in your local area?

Leaannb · 26/03/2020 00:19

@annamie Vaccines aren't cures. They only give your immune system a boost to keep your body fighting the virus. If vaccines were cures the common flu and Swine flu would have eradicated years ago. Are you aqare this year's flu vaccine was created off of last years virus. Not this year's mutation. It doesn't completely protect you just makes it easier to fight and the symptoms more easily treated

mochajoes · 26/03/2020 00:20

@leaannb the op clearly states that

My parents are safely self isolating in a European country with better medical resources and they will not return to the UK until this epidemic is well over.

Are you interpreting this differently to me?

Justaboy · 26/03/2020 00:21

The point here is need, if you OP were one of my children you'd be welcome there with all the best will in the world:)

Your mother is being a grade A ** :(

Superlooper · 26/03/2020 00:23

Anyone else wondering what your mum has in her flat that she doesn't want you to see?

AcheyBreakyArms · 26/03/2020 00:25

Superlooper well that's the mums business then isn't it? For the love of god, mean as she is she has the right to do whatever the fancy fuck she wants to with her own home.

Leaannb · 26/03/2020 00:28

@mochajoes No one knows when that will be. Which is why I said this is going to take months if not years until we can handle this pandemic. So we don't know if mom will be able to stay in Europe for the whole duration of the pandemic

annamie · 26/03/2020 00:30

For the love of god, mean as she is she has the right to do whatever the fancy fuck she wants to with her own home.

Yes, but she shouldn't be surprised when OP is suddenly unable to help with her parents need help with mental health problems, serious physical illnesses and finances.

Superlooper · 26/03/2020 00:31

@AcheyBreakyArms I agree (I was being light hearted what's your secret ), and she made it clear from the start that her flat was not up for grabs.

Leaannb · 26/03/2020 00:31

@AcheyBreakyArms Exactly. Its her home to do as she wishes and that needs to be respected. No matter how much of a twat she is

annamie · 26/03/2020 00:32

@Leaannb
No one knows when that will be. Which is why I said this is going to take months if not years until we can handle this pandemic. So we don't know if mom will be able to stay in Europe for the whole duration of the pandemic

OP says her mother can. And in any case, OP's building work won't last forever, her family will be in a position to better self-isolate at home when building work is complete.

AcheyBreakyArms · 26/03/2020 00:33

Annamie, I agree with you. Shitty parenting gets repaid down the line. But you still have no right to break into their house or snoop.

Leaannb · 26/03/2020 00:34

@Annamie what makes you think her parents will need that type of help? Not every parent does and many make sure their kids are not a part of the process. I know I have. My children will have absolutely no say in my finances or healthcare when I age. I made sure of it

Leaannb · 26/03/2020 00:35

@annamie OP doesn't know that her parents will be able to stay until after the pandemic. No one knows how long that will be

MrsSnitchnose · 26/03/2020 00:36

and there are no cures for viruses Yes there are (Cured of Hep C)

Leaannb · 26/03/2020 00:36

@AcheyBreakyArms Exactly

Thepigeonsarecoming · 26/03/2020 00:36

Your mother is being a shitty parent OP. But ultimately it is her house and therefore her decision

AcrossthePond55 · 26/03/2020 00:37

I don't know if I'd use her flat without her permission, although I certainly understand the temptation. Technically she's denied you permission so I assume you'd be trespassing and you could get in legal trouble. If it's worth that risk to you, then do it. Whether or not she'd call the police on you is up to you to decide.

But I certainly would withdraw ALL support, emotional and financial. I'd tell her that I will have nothing further to do with her flat, no cleaner, no 'keeping an eye', no anything. And I would probably go no contact.

annamie · 26/03/2020 00:38

@Leaannb

what makes you think her parents will need that type of help? Not every parent does and many make sure their kids are not a part of the process. I know I have. My children will have absolutely no say in my finances or healthcare when I age. I made sure of it

Because OP says: Over the years and from a young age I have supported my parents through their respective mental health problems, serious physical illnesses and even supported them financially, when I was in my 20s and now they would be considered wealthy by almost anyone’s standards. I know if the tables were turned, my mother would absolutely demand to use our property and consider it her right to do so.

annamie · 26/03/2020 00:39

@AcheyBreakyArms

But you still have no right to break into their house or snoop.

I agree, I haven't advocated this.

Aesopfable · 26/03/2020 00:40

I can understand her nervousness at an energetic cooped up child with ADHD using her flat. Your need to make your home safe for your child and you use your parents flat.

annamie · 26/03/2020 00:41

@Leaannb

OP doesn't know that her parents will be able to stay until after the pandemic. No one knows how long that will be

You really don't know that. If they have a second home, pension etc, there's nothing to stop them riding out the pandemic where they are.

lboogy · 26/03/2020 00:41

Your mum.. honestly why do you have anything to do with her. I'd cut off all contact. No doubt if she had a medical issue she'd ring you up to get your perspective.

She has a right to refuse to let you use her flat, but that doesn't make her a nice person.

AnnaFiveTowns · 26/03/2020 00:43

Yes she's horrible. Just use the flat. This is an emergency situation. As a PP said, deal with the fallout later.

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