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LovelyIssues · 05/03/2020 23:24

Husband has NEVER seen them completely without makeup. Been together 11 years..

Main reason why is I have roscea, acne scars, awful redness and uneven skin.. I hate it and try and hide it as much as possible so I can honestly say he's never without even a bit of foundation on Blush

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JustPassingByCarryOn · 06/01/2021 13:32

Thanks too MustardMitt Smile

Clarice99 · 06/01/2021 13:33

@LovelyIssues

I have experienced Rosacea (and it still can flare up during times of stress). It's a very distressing condition and when mine was at its worst, I didn't leave the house without foundation and concealer, but there's no way I ever tried to hide it from my DH.

I really feel for you not having the confidence to go bare faced.

My GP prescribed Soolantra cream which I understand is helpful for some people. It didn't help me.

What worked for me is an anti redness balm from Argan Organics and spraying high quality colloidal silver on my face morning and night.

Neither of these items are expensive.

As with most things, it's trial and error.

www.arganorganics.co.uk/products/anti-redness-rosacea-treatment-balm-60ml

www.ukcolloidalsilver.co.uk/

MustardMitt · 06/01/2021 13:34

It’s EXACTLY these attitudes that made me so self conscious as a young teen that I would plaster my face with make up and cry myself to sleep because I had hormonal zits and a skin condition. I’m an adult now sure but as this thread has proven, it’s hard to feel better when you’re constantly bombarded with adverts and opinions about how just this one thing will give you that flawless look.

And I know people are saying to just be happy in your own skin - it’s easier said than done when you’ve NEVER been happy!

mam0918 · 06/01/2021 13:44

[quote MustardMitt]**@mam0918* and @MacDuffsMuff*

also agree the reason your skin is likely so terrible is the fact you have never let it breath, I noticed decades ago my friends with the worst skin where the ones who constantly wore make up

When people say stuff like this to your face (or on a forum) it is really really hurtful. Rosacea and pustular acne cannot be cured by better skincare or leaving it off, so yes, it does upset when the assumption is that my hygiene is lacking.

Soz about making an assumption about your skin though Hmm.

@JustPassingByCarryOn OP has been back on Smile[/quote]
the OP states she has acne and litrally sleeps in make up product every night and wears it all day and has constantly for at least 11 years.

If you honestly think thats good for the skin or not a contributing factor to her acne issue then you would have to be delusional - skin needs to breath, if you grind creams into your pores 24/7 they will clog and get infected thats not really a debatable issue.

MustardMitt · 06/01/2021 13:50

The OP was nearly a year ago and if you read her updates, she hasn’t been wearing make up over night for some time.

I’m not going to show you pictures of my own face, but as I mentioned above I keep a photo diary. I haven’t worn make up for more than three hours maybe once a fortnight for nearly a year and yet my skin remains the same. I’ve also been under the care of a dermatologist in the past three years, for whatever that’s worth. I have never had an infection on my face, make up isn’t made of lead anymore you know Confused

nokidshere · 06/01/2021 14:36

It’s EXACTLY these attitudes that made me so self conscious as a young teen that I would plaster my face with make up and cry myself to sleep because I had hormonal zits and a skin condition. I’m an adult now sure but as this thread has proven, it’s hard to feel better when you’re constantly bombarded with adverts and opinions about how just this one thing will give you that flawless look.

And I know people are saying to just be happy in your own skin - it’s easier said than done when you’ve NEVER been happy!

@MustardMitt @LovelyIssues

I think the above highlights that it's not really about the skin but how you feel about yourself. You can learn to love yourself even with the imperfections, and can manage to cope without every day feeling embarrassed and ashamed.

I have chronic plaque psoriasis covering (at the moment) about 70% of my body. My face included. I have had this condition since I was a few months old and I'm now approaching 60. I have spent many years of my life in hospital and all my life as a regular outpatient. I can't wear make up to cover it because the skin is extremely flakey so make up highlights it rather than covers it.

The worst time was being a teenager because you are a mass of insecurities generally then anyway. It takes lots of strength to get out of that place, but it can be done.

I spent most of my time up until I was in my 20s covering up and refusing to go out. I have 5 sisters none of whom have the condition and I always felt compared to them.

Gradually, as I got older, I realised that people weren't really looking, pointing or commenting on my skin. I pushed myself very hard to go out and socialise and, eventually, in my early 30s I went swimming and stopped wearing long sleeves and trousers all the time. The more I did it the more I could do it. I met my now DH when my skin was at its worst, I ended up with a 6 week stint in hospital just a couple of weeks after I met him. It took months of preparation for me to feel as good as possible on my wedding day, my skin wasn't totally clear but as good as I could get it. I always have psoriasis, it very rarely goes away completely but he doesn't love me any less on bad days/weeks/months.

I lived with the well meaning comments about treatments from other people. They don't mean anything really, they are just trying to be sympathetic and helpful. Just learn to nod and smile, or change the conversation.

In the end no one can help you with those feelings. It has to come from you. My brick wall which kept me from getting hurt from those well meaning people took a fair few years to break down.

The first step in this process is accepting your skin and start to change the things that you can. You are no less beautiful to your husband because you have a red face, or spots, or rashes. People don't think less of you because of it

There is no cure for psoriasis, nor for rosacea if I remember correctly. For your own piece of mind learning to live with it is the first step. Anything else (such as new treatments or less flare ups) is just a bonus.

I picked a day and went out. The next day I went out without looking at the floor and using my hair to cover my face. The next week I had my hair cut and walked a little taller. The next month I went out in short sleeves for the first time in my life. I made sure I knew about every treatment available, took trials in everything new to the market, saw my dermatologist every month. And gradually I got my life to a much better place. And, as with lots of these things, the less stress I put myself under the more good days I had.

I'm not saying it's easy, far from it. Even now on some days I have to really push myself hard to smile and get on with it. But you CAN do it. You NEED to do it or it will become all consuming and your life will be very stressful.

So taking make up of at night is a brilliant first step. But don't leave it too long before you take the next one, and the one after that, or those negative feelings will never get sidelined.

Trust your husband and the people you love to support you, but most of all trust yourself to be able to do it. And, whatever else you do, make sure you get a dermatologist who can, and will, support you every step of the way.

I don't know where you live but Chris Lovell and his team at Bath RUH are the most amazing, caring, empathetic dermatologist dept. I've cried in his office many times in the past 40yrs and he has done wonders for me and my self esteem.

Sorry for the essay but good luck for the future.

shallbe · 06/01/2021 14:43

For those shouting zombie thread, the OP is still active on the thread and has responded as recently as today!

LovelyIssues · 06/01/2021 14:45

@justpassingbycarryon it's not a zombie thread. I am reading the replies and appreciate anything recommend for me to look into. The people saying "oh I couldnt do that I don't wear makeup" lucky lucky you. I am very envious. But it really isn't helping Hmm I'm surprised how much crueler people are from when I first posted this. I am aware wearing makeup probably doesn't help. And the "just go make up free" advice doesn't help Hmm if it was that simple funnily enough I would have done that. Thanks so much for everyone that is suggesting and telling me what has helped them, I really appreciate it Flowers

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LovelyIssues · 06/01/2021 14:47

@nokidshere wow that made me well up. You are an absolute inspiration Flowers I wish I had your strength, it definitely puts things into perspective thank you

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Superfoodie123 · 06/01/2021 14:50

I used to do this when I first met my husband, I have acne too. But hes the best and never makes me feel awful for it, he pretends not to notice.

nokidshere · 06/01/2021 14:51

@LovelyIssues you have got my strength, you just haven't found it yet. But don't stop taking those small steps or you might never find it.

nokidshere · 06/01/2021 14:52

I used to do this when I first met my husband, I have acne too. But hes the best and never makes me feel awful for it, he pretends not to notice

That's sweet of him but you know what, one of the drawbacks to that is that sometimes it needs acknowledgment. Sometimes you just need someone to agree that it's shit.

Victoria157 · 06/01/2021 15:13

Hi OP. Wow this really hit home as I used to have your problem - most of my friends hadnt seen me without makeup since I was a child and it took a few years for me to go bare-faced around my husband. I totally empathise with you & it really is draining and such a joy killer when it interferes with how you want to live your life. I too have naturally oily skin, large pores, some scarring & a genetic tendency towards rosacea. I remember i wasnt bothered by the spots though as that seemed normal enough, but the excessive red nose and cheeks made me feel odd. Surprisingly makeup covered mine really well. It wasnt until i switched up my makeup & skincare for natural products that the redness disappeared - completely. And i never get flares either. I swear my REN or Pai products. My dad has terrible red skin and the calming pai moistoriser (green one) is the only one that works for him. I also only use RMS makeup (foundation & cover up). Its expensive but worth it in my opinion. Its full of wonderful ingredients and my skin has improved so much since using it. I didnt see whether you mentioned your age, but my skin was so much worse in my 20s. Im mid-30s now & actually love my excessively oily skin. It's truly balanced out with age and the oils have left me wrinkle free 😉 good luck and you're beautiful either way ✌

TotorosFurryBehind · 06/01/2021 15:18

I have rosacea too. DH really couldn't care less and thinks I'm gorgeous with or without makeup.

Youcunnyfunt · 06/01/2021 15:59

I feel for you, that sucks. I get really dark circles under my eyes, it's worse in winter, and I nearly always wear undereye concealer. Honestly, the more you stop wearing it, the more it feels normal not to.
You've done amazing to stop the overnight makeup, maybe try and skip it when you're at home alone (is that even a thing anymore?) or under the weather, then you'll start to feel there are occasions you don't "have" to look your best for.
I don't have rosacea so I don't really know what'll work, have you ever been to see a dermatologist for advice? Or your GP? On the former, I know some people in my area are now doing remote video consults so it's possible to still get advice if you can afford it. It might be worth it, especially if it's sore/painful. Have you tried rosehip oil? Weirdly, that has balanced my skin and it's less oily now, I get less break outs and soreness! (I'm also lucky enough to get mild hormonal acne, eczema, sensitive and dry skin as well as dark circles...)

Thingsdogetbetter · 06/01/2021 16:08

Niacinamide has been a godsend for my bright red, blotchy, super sensitive, hormonal acne skin.

Boots ingredients do a £5 one. I use once a day and after 6 weeks I was amazed. (Little difference for 6 weeks and then, pow, woke up to a massive improvement! Huzzah.) Helps with spots and old spot scars too. I also use their glycolic toner once or twice a week to exfoliate and it doesn't flare up my extremely sensitive skin. I now use their hydrochloric moisturiser too - light, absorbes quickly and doesn't break me out. Spotty skin needs moisture too or it get dry and panics and produces more oil.

I've gone from ££££ on products every month (too embarrassed to say how ££) to about £20. Their glow range oil cleansers are great too. (Boots should pay me, I've been praising them so much! Grin.)

Start with one new product at a time for any brand, then don't introduce another new one for at least a fortnight. Also patch test behind ear for 48 hours first.

Wash all make up brushes at least once a week makes a difference too. No drying your face with towels that have been sitting in the damp warm bathroom collecting bacteria - cotton pads or reusable bamboo pads washed after every use. Wash your hands before touching your face - even to put on moisturiser in the morning.

Skin, like many things, is a marathon not a sprint. Unfortunately!!

Thefeep · 06/01/2021 16:17

I’ve been married 25 years. My husband has seen me every which way 😂. I rarely wear make up now unless going out which s never.

MimiDaisy11 · 06/01/2021 16:23

[quote MustardMitt]**@mam0918* and @MacDuffsMuff*

also agree the reason your skin is likely so terrible is the fact you have never let it breath, I noticed decades ago my friends with the worst skin where the ones who constantly wore make up

When people say stuff like this to your face (or on a forum) it is really really hurtful. Rosacea and pustular acne cannot be cured by better skincare or leaving it off, so yes, it does upset when the assumption is that my hygiene is lacking.

Soz about making an assumption about your skin though Hmm.

@JustPassingByCarryOn OP has been back on Smile[/quote]
Yes so true! It's amazing the amount of people who think bad hygiene is the cause of acne. Myself and many others have had drugs prescribed from the doctors for it - they're hardly going to do that if it were just a case of poor skin care routine. While there is truth to it not being good for your skin to have makeup on all the time - it really wouldn't cause anything like the skin condition some people have. At uni when I was younger I knew plenty of women who fell asleep with their make up and they didn't have any issues with blemishes etc.

LovelyIssues · 06/01/2021 16:40

@mustardmitt you're welcome to privately message me. I'll show you mine if you show me yours haha Grin also please spam me with anything that's helped

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katnyps · 06/01/2021 16:42

I find the beautypie products are good - especially the vitamin C serum (they frequently sell out of it). I feel like if my skin is red and damaged it helps it heal really quickly - my husband even uses it now too! Sorry if I've missed a lot of similar comments but I think you may be doing your husband a disservice - in 11 years, whilst he may not have seen you without makeup he knows what "you" look like and you'd probably be surprised at how little notice he would take if you didn't wear it for a day! The hardest thing is for you to go makeup free and not make a big deal out of it - i.e. act like nothing is different lol.

MustardMitt · 06/01/2021 17:40

[quote LovelyIssues]@mustardmitt you're welcome to privately message me. I'll show you mine if you show me yours haha Grin also please spam me with anything that's helped[/quote]
I will do later while I gather my many, many experiments lol!

LovelyIssues · 07/01/2021 08:13

@thingsdogetbetter thanks for your tips! Hadn't even thought of the towel thing though they are very regularly changed. I do wash my makeup brush regularly too but I think I need to invest in a proper brush cleaner

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sproutburger · 07/01/2021 10:23

my dr told me to be careful with moisturiser not to let the bottle touch my skin when I'm using it or not to touch my face then dip into the pot as this spreads bacteria into the moisturiser itself.

Makes sense when you think about it

MustardMitt · 07/01/2021 12:17

See, i don’t think that makes sense at all. My face and hands are washed right before I put anything on my face - why would my face have bacteria on it? If you’re using a spatula to scoop out cream, then unless you sanitise it every single time you use it then you’re still transferring whatever from the spatula to your face Confused

Plus, unless you regularly have open wounds the skin is pretty good at keeping bacteria out anyways.

Snog · 07/01/2021 12:23

Tell your DH how you feel.
Let him see your skin naked at night.
It will be liberating for you, it will help your skin and he will love you more not less.

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