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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

I'm pissed off with the school.

232 replies

TheNoiseHurts · 02/03/2020 17:41

AIBU always say YABU!! When it comes to people being annoyed with schools.
I'm really cross so need to be told I'm being unreasonable so I stop being annoyed.

DS has a nasty throat infection, ended up in hospital and then 10 days or oral antibiotics 4 times a day.
I spoke to the head who said it he can hand it into the office and they will hand it back at the end of the day. He gets collected by a CM who has several other children so this worked.

They never handed it back to him. He missed several doses because of this.

They called me to say it's still at the office again today (it's 5pm by this point) they said they are busy (fair enough) and that he should be coming to get it.
That wasn't the discussion when I handed it in, they said they would give it to him.
It's the end of the course today so a bit late t tell me they changed their mind and expected him to collect - that never would have worked he never would have remembered (he's 8, I know some kids would be great at this but DS wouldn't).

He has multiple allergies.

His teacher just called at 17.28 to tell me they have a food tasting thing tomorrow and could I bring in a 'variety of foods' to match their ones so he's safe.

I'm doing dinner, getting the baby to bed, then tomorrow im up and out by 7.30, DH not home until tomorrow night so when do I do this?!

There was NO notice of this in any bloody news letter now way for me to prepare. And if I don't get this done he will feel excluded.

FFS.

Yes I'm being unreasonable they have a trillion kids and can't accommodate mine with his illness and allergies. I'm still angry though.

OP posts:
caringcarer · 02/03/2020 22:46

Schools often have poor communication. One teacher will agree to something and then does not communicate it to office staff or other teachers so others often say no.

Roozy123 · 02/03/2020 23:33

You've insinuated your child has no common sense, Yet think giving him a bottle of medicine or tablets he could leave somewhere for another child to find is okay? Hmm and a good plan?

MumsGoneToIceland · 03/03/2020 05:33

I would have asked my CM to take responsibility for this and check he had it before leaving the school. Too easy for school to forget (even if did say they’d give it back to him) and too easy for child forget.

MumsGoneToIceland · 03/03/2020 05:35

Re the food, YANBU - they should have planned ahead and given advance notice

hopefulhalf · 03/03/2020 06:07

The GP will almost certainly be happy to issue another ' script for tbe antibiotics- one at home, one at school then no one has to cart open bottles of sticky medicine around.

hopefulhalf · 03/03/2020 06:08

Also 4 times a day ? Isn't there a dose to be had a the CMs ? Unless you get 2 doses in before school ?

BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 03/03/2020 06:19

To the poster who asked about plasters upthread, no, we can't give plasters- apparently in case a child is allergic. (But also because if a wound can be covered and treated with a plaster it's not worth treating with a plaster anyway, or something) We did do this face Confused when we were told we all had to do the defib course and sign to say we were prepared to resuscitate though.
I appreciate schools have rules but sometimes you do go wtf. And that's from the inside.

OP, hope your children are better soon.

notchickenagain · 03/03/2020 07:26

Lol I thought our school was bonkers but yours is worse! Why are there even plasters in the world then?
Do children walk around with gaping wounds, getting dirt in them etc? I'm intrigued. Although hopefully our HT hasn't seen your post because I can see us going down that route. Anything to save a few pennies!

TheNoiseHurts · 03/03/2020 07:37

Also 4 times a day ? Isn't there a dose to be had a the CMs ? Unless you get 2 doses in before school

Omg 😂😂 he doesn't live with the childminder! I give him meds (1) drop him off to the CM. The school gives him two meds (2,3) and I collect him from CM and give him another (4).

I was at Tesco at 06.45 and they HAD NO FREE FROM BAGETTES 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

OP posts:
Sirzy · 03/03/2020 07:55

I think you are really giving school a hard time over this one then if they agreed to give two doses during school time! They don’t have to give any most will do one at lunchtime if it’s 4 times a day but given they are supposed to be equally spaced out then school giving two just doesn’t make sense!

TheNoiseHurts · 03/03/2020 07:58

@sirzy the alternative would be to keep him off school for 10 days.
Does that sound like a good alternative?

Or perhaps just not give it at all in the middle of the day?

Nice hot cup of sepsis anyone?

OP posts:
TheNoiseHurts · 03/03/2020 08:00

given they are supposed to be equally spaced out then school giving two just doesn’t make sense!

I can't believe I'm spelling this out, but here goes!
7am
10am(ish)
2pm(ish)
5pm.

OP posts:
Sirzy · 03/03/2020 08:02

Does he go to bed at 5ish?

Ds has had many antibiotics 4 times a day and school have never had to give more than one dose.

7am
12 noon
4pm
7pm

TheNoiseHurts · 03/03/2020 08:11

Fuck me. I'm hiding this thread in a minute.

As mentioned upthread by someone on the same meds, they need to be an hour before food.

Either way, whether they give the meds to him once or twice a day, they would still fuck up and keep them.

I'm hiding the thread now because I'm bored of arguing with stupid.

Thanks again for those sensible people, and the tips.

OP posts:
carlyclock · 03/03/2020 08:14

I see you are adamant you are correct and this will be met with a 'our children don't go to the same school then' which you seem to have trotted several times, but, medicine should be signed in and out at the office (or other specified location) and the responsibility for ensuring your 8 year old has it at the end of the school day is fully on the CM. So if you didn't inform them, then it's actually down to you. If you did tell them, I think you need to have a word.

Agree there is no need for 2 dowse in school time anyway. That's just making things difficult for the sake of it.

carlyclock · 03/03/2020 08:15

I'm hiding the thread now because I'm bored of arguing with stupid.

Perhaps if the majority think YABU then YABU 🤷🏻‍♀️

notchickenagain · 03/03/2020 08:20

To make things easier, if the cm gave a dose straight after school then she would have to make sure she had the stuff. Win win I'd have thought.
7 ish
11ish
3.30ish
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Brefugee · 03/03/2020 08:24

not sure about the medication.

For the food thing - the teacher is infuriating. My DC missed out on a few things at primary school because they'd come home on Tuesday and say "i need X for tomorrow" i work FT and never got home before 7pm. DH worked evenings and it's not up to the CM to do that kind of thing (even if she could).

I constantly (weekly sometimes) said to the school that they should tell the children latest on a Friday what they need for the following week. But no that was too difficult for them. (in a country where many many mothers don't work full time and school is only until 1 or 2 pm I was the unreasonable one…)

Rosebel · 03/03/2020 09:01

Why ask the question if you're not interested in the answer? People have explained what the school meant and you still say no I'm right. If you think you're right then don't ask.

WaxOnFeckOff · 03/03/2020 09:36

Perhaps if those continuing to say that OP is unreasonable actually read the thread then I think the results might be different. However, as the saying goes, you can't argue with stupid.

WaxOnFeckOff · 03/03/2020 09:41

And "people have explained what the school meant" wtf?

No, the op was the one in the meeting where it was discussed what would happen. Then that's what happened, except for the twice the school forgot.

So, I think the OP and the evidence suggests that the 'people' who explained were wrong. To make a mistake once is a annoying, but to make it twice in the space of a few days shows lack of care.

Stormyjupiter · 03/03/2020 20:07

The thing is Wax, nothing goes according to plan sometimes, and it's really no one's fault.
Evidence isn't everything. No one is wrong. No one makes mistakes on purpose.

I just wondered, I have a child who has multiple allergies, so the school keeps epipen and anti-histamine. They will not hand in the meds to him until yr5, but after that, they are allowed to collect it themselves from office instead of me, end of the term. But they will not chase after the children to hand the meds back, they imform me to come collect it. That's my dc's school. I wondered how it works in OP's school, since her dc has multiple allergies, so they must keep their meds like my dc's, so the policy regarding collecting meds is nothing they are unfamiliar with.

WaxOnFeckOff · 03/03/2020 20:54

We are going to have to disagree, just because there is no malice involved and it's not deliberate, it's still someone's fault. Even if no one thought that there would be a problem and it was easy enough to manage, when it was forgotten the first time (because there was no system and no control) then some sort of check should have been introduced. It wasn't so it happened again.

We are talking about a child's medicine here, luckily OPs DS was well on his way to recovery so it's unlikely that there was any consequence to the errors. However the school should understand that by trying to be helpful and accommodating they have been the opposite.

So, essentially they should have either set up a system that put the onus on the OP and her son, or having decided to put the onus on themselves, they should have introduced sufficient control to manage the responsibility that they placed on the office staff to ensure that mistakes weren't made.

I wouldn't go in guns blazing but I would explain what went wrong so that the school can manage more successfully next time.

Humans are human and therefore fallible. Everyone knows this which is why there should be procedures, checks and balances to mitigate the chances of errors.

People don't read the thread, make assumptions about the situation then get arsey when they are shown to be wrong. Then they get on the back of a tired working mother with 2 sick children. These are probably the same folk posting memes of Caroline Flack telling everyone to be kind.

I'm sorry your child has allergies to deal with and it's really good that their school has a clear system so everyone knows where they stand. We don't know whether OPs school has a different system for regular medicines or older DC. We don't know what allergies OPs DS has but sounds like possibly gluten intolerance so might be things that would make him ill/uncomfortable but not necessarily requiring an epi pen etc.

Stormyjupiter · 03/03/2020 21:33

Ahm, I am the parent of the child who suffers from multiple illness, allergies, regular hospital appointments, care plans every year, keeping multiple meds at school, etc, etc. Still they makes mistakes. I know how to keep good relationship with school. It's not done through accusing them of their mistakes.
Our school gives antibiotics. I have experience of my dc needing 4 doses. I plan it so it only needed to be done once during school time. If I can't go to get the meds back myself, I will phone them up so they will make sure they can hand it it my dc or whoever collecting before they leaves school.

What happened to op was really no one's fault. There are so many things you can do yourself as a parent, to prevent it happening.

WaxOnFeckOff · 03/03/2020 21:56

Whilst I understand and sympathetic to the issues your child has and I am glad that you are happy with your school.

It's simply not true that it isn't someones fault. Again, it's not malicious or intended, but a person or persons made mistakes, those mistakes were avoidable. Lots of people could have helped prevent those mistakes, including the OP to a point.

No-one needs to "accuse" the school of anything, but they do need to understand the impact or potential impact of their mistakes and make improvements.

It takes no more time or effort or expense to do things properly than it takes to do things badly and then have to sort out the resultant mess.

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