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New lodger - shall i ask him to leave?

238 replies

Snorkers · 23/02/2020 09:20

In a bit of a quandary!
Me and my husband have converted most of the rooms on the first floor of our house to a kind of annex - so a kitchen / living room, bathroom and bedroom - which we recently let out. I still have an office up there too but we live downstairs.

In our ad we clearly stated we wanted a single person who was mature, respectful, quiet and a non smoker.

Our lodger moved in just over two weeks ago, having split from his partner 6 m ago and told us he had been at his brothers but 'had to leave' due to arguing die to the small space, he seemed nice enough.

We agreed his kids could stay at the weekends so long as the noise was not excessive, and they have been fine. We agreed that I'd run the hoover round and surface clean the bathroom on Fridays (only as I want to keep an eye on things due to previous bad experiences).

However earlier this week we noticed a really rank fishy smell coming from his living room. It went but came back again ten fold on Thursday and could be smelled downstairs too.

On Fri when i hoovered i had to empty a make shift bin (despite us providing a proper one already) which was basically a bag for life sitting on the side with rotting food and fish packaging in. The smell was all over the house at this point. I texted him and told him.

In addition - there was also a load of dirty washing up from the offending fishy meals sitting on the side. In the bathroom the toilet seat and lid was splattered with shit so I was pretty unhappy.

On Sat the smell in the whole house was unbearable and he was out - i went in there and the dirty pans and plates are still there festering with bits of rotting fish on. I texted him again and asked him to sort it and he said he would when he got in later that day.

I threw open the windows in his living room to air it and saw a fag butt on the window sill.

When i questioned him about this he said it wasn't him and I said it didn't get there itself, then he said it was his 'friend' who he had allowed to smoke in our house despite us clearly stating no smoking, also - we had no idea anyone except him and his kids had even been in the house - this was late at night some time.

Would you kick him out?

I feel like there is no trust there and I am worried about if we go away or something what poor decisions will he make then? Who will be in our house and what will they do?

OP posts:
BumbleBeee69 · 24/02/2020 21:22

sounds awful 😱

Willow2017 · 24/02/2020 21:52

your breaking your agreement by not letting him have peaceful use of his lodgings be very careful with that, if your still not happy with him serve him a section 21 notice to quit

Give me strength.😤🤦‍♀️

There are a couple of threads about lodgers just now and the amount of utter crap spouted as 'facts' is astonishing!!

Everydayishistorytomorrow · 24/02/2020 21:58

@willow2017 You are wrong. Please get off your high horse. No need to be unpleasant. Here are the facts.
england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/eviction/eviction_of_lodgers_and_other_excluded_occupiers

SoupDragon · 24/02/2020 22:28

Here are the facts.

Which of those facts says the OP needs to get the "section 21" as a PP said in the quote used by Willow?

TorkTorkBam · 24/02/2020 22:28

Basically - "well I can't and won't make arrangements to leave unless I have my deposit"

Ha! Well he's in for a shock when he gets back and finds his bags in the doorway and the door locked isn't he. What a dickhead.

When will he be gone by?

AgeOld · 24/02/2020 23:16

I hope you don't have children op.
Letting random people live in your house as a lodger with no references or knowing who they are is terrifying enough but if you have dc then please be careful.

I couldn't think of anything worse than turning half of my house into a boarding house for random people.

Babysharkdoodoodood · 24/02/2020 23:31

When I was working away from home last year, I used SpareRoom.com. The lady who owned the house vetted me first. It was a female only household and I had free reign over the living space as we both worked shifts. There was a student who also stayed there and she was clean as well.

I always cleaned the kitchen and bathroom afterwards and my room was spotless (and so cosy). You just need rules, like no eating in the bedroom, clean the loo and tidy up. If my DH pops off before me, I'll probably take in a lodger or 2, but just a working week type thing.

And I didn't have to give a deposit either, just told her the month before I went and paid up to date.

Ferret27 · 24/02/2020 23:31

Trust your gut ... your home your rules and if someone shows such little respect now it will only eat worse ....

Ferret27 · 24/02/2020 23:43

Yes try Monday to Friday ... quite often you get people only staying 3/4 nights ..they have their own home but work in town...we had a CEO .. quiet ,clean ...didn’t cook out all day... I cleaned room and bathroom once a week....

Willow2017 · 24/02/2020 23:51

You are wrong. Please get off your high horse. No need to be unpleasant. Here are the facts
Everydayishistorytomorrow
Nope you are. The guy is Not a tenant he is a lodger on trial period.
A section.21 only applies to landlords renting out houses etc to tenants.
Here is a fact...
a section 21 eviction, is the notice which a landlord must give to their tenant

ineedaholiday11 · 25/02/2020 00:29

@Snorkers he sounds vile and very much like a lodger I had about 8 years ago. He never cleaned up, dominated kitchen, the bathroom which we shared was outrageous and thx child that would only be there twice a month was there every weekend (on "his" weekends) and then continuously over school holidays (never checked it was ok). He got progressively worse. Deffo get rid before he actually settles in!!

beth2702 · 25/02/2020 01:49

OUT NOW

SewItGoes · 25/02/2020 03:15

According to a few on MN, a lodger has more right to the property than the person who owns the home.

The bare thought of a lodger is the stuff of nightmares. I pray I'll never have to resort to renting out a room. I've read too many horror stories on MN!

PlantainMountain · 25/02/2020 03:27

Ew, he's failed the probation 3x over IMO.

Chocomochacino · 25/02/2020 07:56

Ok fair enough about fish but maybe he didn't realise how bad it was? I would hate landlord checking up on me tbh. Sounds like you sold it to him as cleaning was part of the deal, when you just want to snoop? Cleaning on top would have increased the amount he would be willing to pay. A bit sneaky really.

Bawbags · 25/02/2020 10:52

@Chocomochacino as it's been said a few times, the OP having unrestricted access to the lounge, bathroom and kitchen are a requirement to maintain the status of lodger not tenant. It's not to snoop. They are her legal shared spaces which she has a right to enter at will and the lodger must keep clean. It's the OP's home, not a private let.

datasgingercatspot · 25/02/2020 11:49

In the future I'd only accept females to let the room, and all the usual applies on top (references, written rules). No overnight guests. Anyone who rocks up with a story about needing to have their kids there, decline. He's your typical bullying git and I hope you get rid fast.

Whatisthisfuckery · 25/02/2020 12:10

OP, get a woman next time.

ScreamingLadySutch · 25/02/2020 12:18

Follow your gut.

You are unhappy because your boundaries have been crossed with his filthy way of living, you are not compatible, get rid

SoupDragon · 25/02/2020 12:21

get a woman next time.

There's another lodger thread in AIBU at the moment about a lodger taking the piss. It's a woman.

SudokuQueen · 25/02/2020 12:23

Your first clue was the fact that he needs to leave his brothers house due to arguing. Kick him out.

ThreeAnkleBiters · 25/02/2020 12:40

@Everydayishistorytomorrow But the facts you posted clearly state that as a lodger he's an excluded occupier and OP is well within his rights to tell him to leave.

The kind of person who needs reminders to live like a civilised person and follow house rules is going to be a constant hassle. Do you really want to be chasing him up every week because he's done something else disgusting and inconsiderate? He'd be better off in a bedsit and you can find a lodger who is clean.

Ninkanink · 25/02/2020 12:45

The woman in that thread is not even a lodger - she’s a ‘friend’ that the OP let stay with her and who’s completely taking the piss.

Of course plenty of women are lazy, filthy CFers who take advantage of well meaning friends, and there are plenty of perfectly good male lodgers, but on the whole women are at least less likely to be aggressive/intimidating if and when it all goes to shit.

But at the core it’s not a sex issue, it’s a huge red warning flags issue, which would have been present from the beginning and I’m sure OP won’t make the same mistake again in ignoring those.

Mumgonenuts2020 · 25/02/2020 14:22

He is a grown man with kids, not a student then.. it sounds like a tenant rather than a lodger.. or a student 😄 ask if it is is temporary or a stop a stop gap whilst he sorts everything in about, is it fish and chip Takeways😄😄

Willow2017 · 25/02/2020 18:00

grown man with kids, not a student then.. it sounds like a tenant rather than a lodger..
What has age or employment/student got to.do.with ir?
He isnt a tenant!!!!!! He is a lodger.