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Colleague relying on me for lifts!!

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Sarbr3 · 12/02/2020 18:40

Hi guys
I'm new here and haven't posted yet but need some advice for my dillema!
My work is an hours drive away and quite tricky (but not impossible) to get too via public transport. A girl started on my team September last year and asked if i could take her too and from work every now and then as she had a driving test booked in..
Fast forward nearly 6 months and she has failed three tests. She now completely relies on me for lifts and I recieve a text every evening (usually at 11pm) asking if i can bring her in. She hasn't had ANY lessons just practices with her partner.
She pays me, but not as much as I ask her for and it's usually a lump sum on pay day which amounts to less than we have agreed.
On top of this there have been two occasions where I've not been able to bring her in last minute and she has rung in sick saying she feels physically "too weak" to get the train!!!
Ive tried to speak to her about feeling pressure to get her into work but she hasn't picked up the hint. She's quite defensive and Im sure that if i say i no longer want this responsibility she will argue that I'm going that way anyway (i pass her house).
But its taking a real toll on me as this journey is my wind down time, and I do feel pressure to work my plans around her!
I'm torn between being straight with her and ending all lifts as i think even just saying two a week would become more than that. Or lying and saying that I'm moving house 😂 i rent at the moment so it's not too unbelievable. Obviously I don't feel comfortable lying, but I think i need to put my own wellbeing first and this is really getting me down.
I wouldn't mind, but she has never got public transport in and we have nothing in common to talk about (she's actually rather opinionated). And also why would you take a job you can't get too??!
Sorry rant over, it's just really getting me down. I need reassurance that I'm not being a complete b* for not wanting to do it anymore, or advice of how to get out of this situation!
Just an add on, i told her to get lessons two months ago and wait to rebook her test. As far as i know she's made no effort to find a driving instructor 😣

OP posts:
CruCru · 13/02/2020 11:52

From now on, put your phone / texts on silent. Do not check your phone in the morning before work.

Drum2018 · 13/02/2020 12:08

Well done for texting her. On the off chance that she does mention it at work, just say your personal circumstances have changed so it doesn't suit you anymore. Nobody can argue with that. And if she or your manager query what your personal circumstances are, just look slightly shocked and say they are personal. Don't apologise and don't elaborate. And ignore further messages from her requesting a lift - don't get sucked in to helping out 'in an emergency' as the 'emergencies' will end up being every day. So don't offer to help her out at all from now on. You've done more than enough for her.

billy1966 · 13/02/2020 12:13

@Drum
Exactly.

Look aghast if you are queried.

When I had a CF neighbor over step with me I just didn't reply to any further requests.

She got the message.

Cmagic7 · 13/02/2020 12:15

In a way, you could see it as now you're doing her an even bigger favour - she'll feel great when she passes her test and wouldn't have if you'd have carried on giving her lifts. Grin

StiffUpperQuip · 13/02/2020 12:34

Manager is visited by the CF and then calls OP in to delivers a smiley-smiley "now what's all this nonsense about? You know I don't like friction between my staff - what are you both going to do to resolve it?"
*
With the emphasis on what OP will do of course ...*

This ^^

elQuintoConyo · 13/02/2020 13:40

Good for you Sarbr3 Brew

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 13/02/2020 14:06

Manager is visited by the CF and then calls OP in to delivers a smiley-smiley "now what's all this nonsense about? You know I don't like friction between my staff - what are you both going to do to resolve it?"

With the emphasis on what OP will do of course ...

YES!

Reminds me of a joke Mark Lamarr once told about him having won the award for Most Reasonable Man In Britain. "Well, I actually came second, but I asked the winner if I could have the award instead and he said Yeah, fine!"

Dadtwoone · 13/02/2020 17:52

Tell her Friday, that's the last day, if you were to do it earlier, she could be very bit#hy towards you, don't put yourself in that position, she, and her job isn't your responsibility, she has to make her own arrangements.

tierdytierd · 13/02/2020 17:58

I won’t be so gracious of giving her notice.
I was in your position my cf even moved house nearer to me so I had no reasonable reason to deny her a lift. She got pissy if I was sick or on holiday and would sit in silence after giving me grief for bn sick/holiday and been so inconsiderate. I gave her notice and she made my life hell untill that day came. I’d left a violent relationship and she was having a go for moving! It was an inconvenience to her.
When she sends her next txt asking for a lift just reply with a simple. No can do.
Repeat that until she either gets the hint or you tell her outright that lifts are no longer something you’ll be giving at any point. No explanation, as others have said she’ll find a way to twist it. Just a simple no can do, you’ll have to sort your own transport to your job too and from your home at your expense
The more you say no the easier it becomes!

Catwaving · 13/02/2020 18:20

Lift sharing is a great idea, especially for environmental reasons. Only okay if on an equal footing though.

Charge her a proper rate, including petrol costs and a bit extra for wear and tear on the car (as you would if claiming mileage on expenses)

Get the money up front each month and you have a deal

If she says no then she can get herself to work

FraglesRock · 13/02/2020 18:25

How did it go today OP

juneo63 · 13/02/2020 18:32

Talk to her tell her how you feel, give her the chance to say how she feels, try and come to an amicable solution, so you both feel ok working together!! 😁

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 13/02/2020 18:40

Good for you!

I once accepted a job when I couldn't drive, and car shared to begin with. I fitted in with her working hours, walked to and from our agreed 'pick up spot' on her route, rather than expecting her to collect me, and I paid her £20 a week petrol money (it was a 20 minute commute). Plus side was that all this was an excellent incentive to learn to drive.

Rachel1874 · 13/02/2020 19:09

Just stop giving her a lift. She was clearly happy to accept the job, you don't do that if you can't/don't want to do the commute. Just tell her straight maybe on your last day in for the week as of next week I wont be giving you a lift. Not sure you work circumstances but I would possible think of speaking to my manager and telling them the situation so they are aware. Especially if she is going to end up off "ill" all the time.

oldfashionedtastingtea · 13/02/2020 19:12

*Manager is visited by the CF and then calls OP in to delivers a smiley-smiley "now what's all this nonsense about? You know I don't like friction between my staff - what are you both going to do to resolve it?"

With the emphasis on what OP will do of course ...*

The op could reply that she either takes the bus, the manager drives her or the company pays for a taxi.

Sarbr3 · 13/02/2020 19:49

All of these responses have made my day 😂 she wasnt in today, as yesterday was the second time I had an emergency in the morning and the second time she had rang in sick due to being "too weak" to get the train. She said she had d&v therefore she has to take 48 hours off.
So usually if i give her prior warning there is another girl she leeches lifts off. I have a feeling she will move on to her and when this girl is unable to offer her a lift she will ask me. In which case i will continue to repeat that I cant with no explanation. As you've all said i don't owe her one.
I explained this to my supervisor today who is understanding of my situation. She said she has suggested her using her week off to take intensive driving lessons, to which the girl replied "i cant afford to do that unlike some people!!!". How about get a 0% interest credit card like the rest of us poor people have to do in emergency situations! Honestly the entitlement of some people is beyond me. I will keep you posted on the 23rd for any "i have no other way to get to work" messages.
Btw she can get to work via public transport, its just more costly and involves a 15 minute walk which god forbid she should have to do 🤦‍♂️

OP posts:
Graphista · 13/02/2020 20:23

As someone who didn’t pass their test until their 30’s I’ve been the person getting the lift.

BUT

I insisted on paying to cover fuel and wear & year on the car, usually more than the driver asked for. NEVER less. Although one woman I had the arrangement with she asked for fuel money only and she didn’t ask for much BUT I was also happy to babysit her dd whenever she needed (we were both army wives and it can be very hard finding a reliable babysitter especially helpful when the men were away).

Said thank you every day for each lift so if they gave me a lift to and from work I thanked them twice a day, may seem a small thing but I’ve found it’s really appreciated.

I said to each driver that if the arrangement ever became too onerous to simply let me know. I just asked that they give me at least 2 days notice so I could make alternative arrangements/check on up to date public transport timetables.

I never asked them to get me from home but I made my way to their home and came home from theirs at the end of the day. It was never far but allowed them a little extra time to get ready and meant they weren’t inconvenienced in that way. If I were early or they were running a little late for whatever reason I was happy to wait in the car and assured them it was no problem. It was rarely an issue, just life getting in the way sometimes.

Kept conversation to light, non work topics and I understood that I didn’t have the right to criticise eg music choices. Actually meant I learned to love some music genres I knew little about beforehand.

I also got them small gifts throughout the year as a token of thanks.

I’ve since passing my test been the one giving lifts which I am more than happy to do IF the lift receiver doesn’t take the piss! Even at uni as a mature student I did a thing where I gave a few of the students a lift to a bigger cheaper supermarket once a week. They were always lovely about it and returned the favour in other ways. A couple babysat for me regularly (but not every week), another did “handyman” type jobs for me when needed and another although he’d no car of his own was good at car stuff and so helped out there.

As pps have said there are many threads like these but they usually come down to the people receiving the lifts

NOT paying their way

NOT appreciating the favour

NOT acknowledging that actually driving takes skill and effort

NOT making the situation as easy as possible for the driver.

I hope you’ve managed to nip your situation in the bud op.

Nobody likes confrontation but it is a life skill and assertiveness is necessary at times, it really should be taught at school.

You’d actually be doing this woman a favour if you were to tell her exactly what the issues were in an assertive but fairly neutral way.

Sometimes it’s youthful entitlement, sometimes it’s lack of social awareness rather than outright cheeky fuckery. But if it is cf then you needn’t worry about offending them cos they tend not to give a fig for others anyway! So hell mend em!

Astounds me how many don’t like walking/cycling to work now too.

In addition to the jobs where I was fortunate to get lifts (but I could have got there by public transport too) there were also jobs that were up to an hours walk each way including manual jobs. Now admittedly this was in my youth when I was fit and healthy, but most people are up to I would say AT LEAST 30 mins walk each way. I did those walks/cycles in all weathers including storms and snow drifts and all sorts. I actually liked the peace and found it meditative. I invested in good weatherproof clothes even if it meant changing into other items at work, had lots of amused/bemused comments about wellies and waterproof trousers! Which one colleague noted they didn’t even know they existed and thought they were a fantastic idea and went out and got not only herself some but some for her kids too. She got bus to work but walked kids to school first and they’d been moaning about the weather.

Spring and summer I loved getting a good walk in the day! Clear the cobwebs.

Angrywife · 13/02/2020 20:30

There is a phrase that "no" is a full sentence and as others have said, you don't need to give an explanation.
But if you feel uncomfortable not explaining, like I would, you could say you're not heading straight home on xyz days so she'll need to organise something else.
Taking her to work will be a bit trickier to get out of unless it would be feasable to say you're having to go a different way

Butterymuffin · 13/02/2020 20:35

@Graphista you sound like a lovely passenger and I would be happy to have you in my car!

SchadenfreudePersonified · 13/02/2020 20:44

I will keep you posted on the 23rd for any "i have no other way to get to work" messages.

Sj802580 · 13/02/2020 21:01

OMG people are so cheeky... it’s unbelievable, poor you! Bite the bullet.. tell her straight. Don’t bother giving her any explanations... she doesn’t require one. She’s taking the piss.

Attitude84 · 13/02/2020 21:09

I passed my test around 3 years ago. I remember what it was like struggling with public transport and the unreliability of it and worse, the expense. In my previous job, I began to take 3 to people to and from work, why? Because I physically can. They didn’t want to put me out, but I can relate to those who don’t drive so much, that if it’s not too far out of my way, I will give them a lift. I also understand your frustration and at the end of the day it is entirely up to you. Maybe you need to be more blunt and just tell her. If she’s not trying to do her bit for your lifts (ie, notice and fuel money) then just say no more!

Attitude84 · 13/02/2020 21:10

That’s 3 to 4* people to and from work.

FraglesRock · 13/02/2020 21:21

I'd give the other girl a heads up, and that your efforts started with the "odd lift".

And the night before your new regime turn your phone off so you can't be swayed. And then reply to any requests with "Sorry no can do".
You might have to leave work earlier/later to avoid her puppy dog face.

Rachel709 · 13/02/2020 21:22

I wouldn't lie because she will come up with ways around it. Just tell her straight you don't have to explain. I would like to know how did she get to work at first before she knew you could give her a lift?