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Friend didn't tell me the truth about baby daddy

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WhalesharkSubmarine · 09/02/2020 15:41

Not sure if I'm being unreasonable or whether this is even an issue.
My friend and I are very close and had our ds's about three years ago. We talk everyday and have been eachother's rocks. Her baby daddy is from a different part of the world and hasn't stepped up at all since she had her ds. She's been to visit him and he's been disinterested and irresponsible. He finds it hard to find work and once she found hundreds of messages from other western girls on his phone, most of them on gap years. They broke up and she's been raising ds mostly on her own, with the odd Skype call.
Last week she mentioned to me that it was her baby daddy's 24th birthday. 24! We are mid thirties. She laughed and said he lied about his age when they first met and slept together. But surely you know if someone is 20 right? I mean her ds is 3, they were together for a bit before so he was really young when they met.
I feel like this puts a whole different spin on him not stepping up. I mean not only is he on the other side of the world, from a different culture but he's also a lot younger than us. I know that women who get pregnant at that age and younger have to grow up but I think that's partly due to biology. I think it must be hard for a young man in a different country to comprehend that there is a dc that he can't visit who needs him to get a job.
Am I just making excuses for him? I won't treat her any differently but it will affect the way I see him and his actions.

OP posts:
WhalesharkSubmarine · 09/02/2020 19:11

Anyone with half a brain knows that reverse racism does not exist. Please read Reni Eddo Lodge's book for more of an explanation. I can't relate fully to her situation and experience of the world obviously. It is a good read if you want to know why being racist to white people in the U.K isn't a thing. If me saying 'white women' is more racist than these threads about people of Indian decent not paying for things or the dreaded 'inner city schools' then MN is a joke.

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Gingerkittykat · 09/02/2020 19:16

*Ginger

MN has a reputation which is mentioned by every poster who gets their arse handed to them.

MN does not suffer fools.
Take your faux upset elsewhere.
Had you met this OP on the street you would not look twice*

Ther's a difference between not suffering fools (and why would you suggest the OP is a fool) and just being a bully.

What do you mean I wouldn't look twice at the OP?

aroundtheworldyet · 09/02/2020 19:18

Op. You’re clutching at straws.

You made a thread about your friend in a gloating manner.
Are you happy your friend has a fuckwit for an ex partner?
I fear this is a bit of
“I told you so” type of threads. Your poor friend.

WhalesharkSubmarine · 09/02/2020 19:20

@Gingerkittykat they just like being mean girls. They relish it. It's not racism, just a strange power trip about bullying people.

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WhalesharkSubmarine · 09/02/2020 19:22

If you say so, dear. God help the world if you're going around it. Hope it teaches you more tolerance. Namaste (and I'm not even Indian.)

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PityParty4one · 09/02/2020 19:25

I am too old to be a mean girl.

I am just so sick of the "oh hun it's not your fault hes a bad baby daddy"
Its pathetic. These men were knobheads to start with but these baby mamas think they can change them " oh yeah but she made him hit her shes a slag she talked to the bloke in the shop"
I am better than her. He loves me ConfusedHmm

Thurmanmurman · 09/02/2020 19:28

Baby daddy 🤮

Roozy123 · 09/02/2020 19:36

they just like being mean girls. They relish in it
Exactly how you come across to me in your posts about your very good FRIEND.

aroundtheworldyet · 09/02/2020 19:40

You’re the meanest girl I’ve come across

Thank fuck my friends don’t judge me and relish in my mistakes

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 09/02/2020 19:41

PityParty4one wtf are you going on about?

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 09/02/2020 19:42

Thank fuck my friends don’t judge me and relish in my mistakes

To be fair, if they did, they probably wouldn't tell you.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 09/02/2020 19:43

Typical MN. 6 pages of people coming on to say THE EXACT SAME THING as the person before them, about one tiny detail in the OP 😂

aroundtheworldyet · 09/02/2020 19:43

True. Very true.
I guess I think they’re like me: I would never judge my friends and I would always support them. But they might not be like me. I guess I’ll never know.

Vilanelle · 09/02/2020 19:48

Nah, my nephew is 21 and fathered a child from a one night stand (not proud) but he stepped up immediately. Swapped nights out to spend time with her

Userwhatevernumber · 09/02/2020 19:49

OP I’m Afro-Caribbean and have never heard anyone in my community use baby daddy as a term.
That’s just embarrassing.

Google31 · 09/02/2020 20:15
  • @SorryDidISayThatOutLoud*

Fat is actually not an insult in most of Africa if not all , sometimes ppl use it to describe someone or praise someone’s looks. I understand it’s an insult in the West.

Chinks123 · 09/02/2020 20:23

Dp was 21 and still lived at home and played computer games when I fell pregnant, it’s no excuse. He was also jobless (I know he sounds like such a catch.)
He got a job, rented us a house, and provided for his baby on the way. So yes you’re making excuses for him, but I do sort of see the point you’re trying to make that it’s difficult for a younger guy for a foreign country, but he doesn’t even sound like he’s trying. I also think you would have got much less hate if you hadn’t said “white women.” I’m not sure why you needed to mention anyone’s colour on this thread.

OrangeLindt · 09/02/2020 20:36

The Daily Mail uses the term Baby Daddy a lot, it's American and hideous.

OrangeLindt · 09/02/2020 20:41

Mittens dfod Smile

riotlady · 09/02/2020 20:44

@katy1213 so nobody who has an accidental pregnancy has self respect? What a miserable world view

Soffy · 09/02/2020 20:45

Getting back to your main point OP. I am guessing your friend was embarrassed by his age so didn't mention it..His age is not an excuse for not looking after his child. He's a grown man..

Rosebel · 09/02/2020 20:52

My husband was 21 when I got pregnant, he managed to step up and become a dad. If he didn't want or couldn't afford to be a,dad he should h have kept his dick in his pants. Simple as that.
I don't see why it's any of your business how old he is or are you jealous that she could pull a much younger man?

Weebitawks · 09/02/2020 20:58

The problem with your posts if you're talking all about the woman's accountability. She "chose" to have a baby with this poor young man.

No, she chose to have sex with him and he chose to have sex with her. Just as her decision to have sex with him was poor (as pregnancy is always a risk) his decision to have sex with her was equally poor. At least she's accountable for her actions.

My DH and I were both of a similar age to him and we didn't use that as an excuse.

Wauden · 09/02/2020 21:13

'Baby daddy'. It's a term common in my community. I'm not going to stop using it because loads of white women tell me it's wrong.

I am fascinated to know how can see what MNetters look like.

Do tell.

eveoha · 09/02/2020 21:32

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