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Awkward about CFer requests

158 replies

StiffUpperQuip · 08/02/2020 13:58

Basically, how do you deal with favour requests that you just don't want to do without coming across as a tight ass?

Now I know these are CF requests and I shouldn't need to do them at all, but how can I say no every single without just coming out and saying, no. I don't want to. Especially as there are some extenuating circumstances.

Upstairs neighbour died quickly of cancer 6 months ago leaving wife and teen DD. I of course offered my help in the last stages, driving them to see him at the hospital, looking after their cat for days while they stayed with him and driving the DD to her work on occasion and afterwards I offered help in a "if you need anything let me know" sympathetic way. Unfortunately they've really taken me up on it! The DD(19) and mom keep expecting lifts everywhere! Like to the shops for example because dad was the driver and now they're without personal transport. Not just a simple "if you're going to the shop let me know" type, no. It's knocking on my door asking me to get up off my couch, stick my shoes and coat on, put my cuppa down and meet them at my car to drive them 350 meters to the Costcutter so they can pick up a loaf, milk, cat food and their cigs!".
My couch faces my floor to ceiling window so even with blinds, you can see me sitting there doing nothing but watching telly. And you can see my car in the car park outside my gate so it's obvious I'm in and likely not doing anything. I can't rearrange my furniture and can't keep my curtains pulled.

They'll phone and message me in an "emergency" to drive 25 minutes there and 25 minutes back to the nearest town because they "missed the bus" and need picking up. Or call first thing to say they're stuck and in desperate need of a lift to an appointment in town and there's no bus that will get them there (true in our area if they don't bother to catch the early bus).

One time it happened I conceded but said no way can I come back for pick up from the dentists as I have X to do and won't be in and she needs to get the bus or taxi back. An hour later my phone blows up and the DD knocks on my door saying mom is stuck because her "lift fell through." It didn't. I was always the lift and she never had bus or taxi money.

Now I really, really don't want to fall out with them because other than that they're great neighbours in our block of flats but I need a more solid list of excuses. I refuse to take petrol money because the second I do, it's a service paid and I don't want them thinking I owe them X rides as they've paid.

They do me favours too but it's definitely a 90/10 split with most coming from my end because I'm probably in a better situation than them. (Ie they'd borrow milk but I wouldn't want or need to ever do that). I'm expecting to be living here for at least another 20 years so good neighbour relations are a must, plus the fact they watch my dog when I need to go visit my dying mom (I can't afford a dog sitter as we're limited income and I need to save for the flights to see her as often as possible as she's terminal)

So go on. Roast me for being too darn soft and too Britishly polite to say, "That doesn't work for me". But what would you do? Really? And not in a "hard as nails, take no shit but only online behind a screen kinda way? I need to wean them off expecting me to ferry them around.

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GaaaaarlicBread · 08/02/2020 14:03

This is really tough. I can’t even imagine ! But if I were to be in your shoes , I’m like you and would just do it 😩 but eventually I’d have to say ‘it’s becoming quite inconvenient for me to keep going out when I’m not planning on going . If I’m going to the shops I will let you know and you’re welcome to come but I can’t keep going out when I’m not going out myself’ kind of thing ?? I really don’t know 😩

Jeezoh · 08/02/2020 14:06

If you want to extricate yourself gently, which it sounds like you do, start making yourself more unavailable. Maybe start with telling them you’ve had a glass of wine in the evening so can’t drive, or screen their calls and blame it on your phone being on silent etc so you don’t answer until the moment has passed when they need you.

user1493413286 · 08/02/2020 14:06

I’d come up with a few excuses along the lines to you’re waiting in for a delivery, you’ve hurt yourself and can’t drive, got a dodgy tummy and don’t want to leave the sofa. I reckon after about 3-4 times of that they’ll stop asking so much.
I do realise that the adult thing is just address it directly but I’m also quite avoidant and find it hard to be outright in what I say so I’d probably end up doing that.

Oxfordnono12 · 08/02/2020 14:08

You have basically replaced their father (in a sense) You need to set boundaries and be firm with them. How they feel/react is up to them,. You arent responsible for how they feel. You are however responsible for you, and this situation obviously isn't working so find a solution that suits you and go with it. For example, if you said you cant lift them, YOU CANT THEM. Simple. Dont go an lift them.

What would suit you?

Vulpine · 08/02/2020 14:23

Not sure I'd be happy giving lifts to anyone to buy fags. The walk would do em good

CalmdownJanet · 08/02/2020 14:23

I would just say next time "Sure I'll do it this time but actually I was going to talk to you about the lifts, they are going to have to stop, my petrol bill has increased dramatically and I need to tighten my belt towards flights for visiting my mum. So this is the last trip I'm afraid. You should consider driving lessons and getting on the road yourself"

Or "Actually no my news years resolution is to walk more and use my car less so if i'm not using it for me definitely can't justify using it for other people"

windycuntryside · 08/02/2020 14:30

Yep to the wine . Put a glass and bottle on the side and say you can not drive.

SandAndSea · 08/02/2020 14:38

I think dog-sitting is quite a big favour so I would definitely bear that in mind.

I think I would ease out. Be less available. Say things like you can't tonight but you will be going on xxxday if they'd like a lift then. Maybe get that vinyl stuff for your windows so you're more private.

CareBear50 · 08/02/2020 14:43

Oh OP I hate situations like this. So awkward

Next time they ask just say something along the lines of what others have suggested...

I'm happy to take you to the shop this time, but it's a bit tricky for me to do things as hoc at short notice as quite often I have plans of my own for the evening.

If I'm going to the supermarket I will let you know and I'm more than happy to get a few things for you or can give you a lift there. I'm sure you understand.

Good luck....they really are extracting the urine!!!!

YouTheCat · 08/02/2020 14:43

Dodgy tummy? Waiting for a call to do with your mum? Already had a drink? You've got something in the oven?

StiffUpperQuip · 08/02/2020 14:56

Thanks everyone, I'll add these to my excuse list.

It's really an awkward situation. Some of the times I've sat and thought, "FML! This is a piss take!" to my text messages. One of which was for me picking them up when their bus was due to get in at 7pm. They really thought I wanted to get my shoes and coat on, defrost the car and drive TWO STREETS to wait for anything up to 10 minutes for a bus to arrive to save them walking maybe 250 ish meters. I think that day and the "emergency" pick up was what made me stop and say, this really needs to stop. Doing almost 2 hours driving there back and there and back just because they made a dental check up appointment with no way of getting there and back without waiting and paying for buses.

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Beautiful3 · 08/02/2020 15:00

Can you put up blinds and black out curtains so they cant see you when you're in? Could you try saying sorry not today because I dont feel well/there isnt enough petrol in the car until I fill it up/my friends coming over/literally popping your coat on and saying I'm walking to my mates round the corner now. Make yourself unavailable as much as possible.

damnthatanxiety · 08/02/2020 15:06

One of which was for me picking them up when their bus was due to get in at 7pm. They really thought I wanted to get my shoes and coat on, defrost the car and drive TWO STREETS

This sort of request is a simple one to refuse. It is easy to say 'I'm going to be busy then. It's not far, why not just walk?'. They will be out on the bus so they won't know if you are busy or not. Just close your blinds that evening so when they walk home, they won't see you lying on your sofa. You can start developing migraines also....or other pains that mean you can't..

Wineislifex · 08/02/2020 15:08

Had a drink, not feeling well, expecting an important phonecall, expecting a visitor, in the bath, got a hair treatment on, migraine, D&V, baking a cake, watching a film...so sad you can’t sit on your couch and relax and that you feel you have to justify yourself to these CFs!

Didshereally · 08/02/2020 15:11

"Look these frequent lifts are really becoming a bit much, I can't even relax on my sofa after a hard day / week at work - when you'd be better to get used to catching the bus. I offered as a kindness at a time you needed help, but I have enough going on myself that I need my peace and rest time as well."

MyOwnSummer · 08/02/2020 15:16

Who drives 350 metres ffs? You've just got to say a flat no to that. It's a five minute walk, if that!

mumwon · 08/02/2020 15:20

you are waiting for a phone call

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 08/02/2020 15:26

You don't deserve to be roasted OP, you've had some good suggestions on the thread too. Many of us are avoidant and find it hard to steer a nice line between doormat and banshee.

Lailaha · 08/02/2020 15:27

Dog sitting is a pretty massive favour, though, so you need to be quite tactful.

The piss take ones - that save them walking a block or two - "sorry, I can't. I'm being more environmentally conscious and now don't use my car for trips of under a mile each way" (don't use the money excuse, as it's harder to shut down if they offer to pay)

SinkGirl · 08/02/2020 15:28

Such a shame you’ve developed a sciatic injury and have been advised to drive as little as possible by your physiotherapist. And actually, since you’ve given them so many lifts over time, could they possibly go to the shops for you as you can’t walk there and carry things home?

SorryDidISayThatOutLoud · 08/02/2020 15:29

I'm afraid you just need to stop answering your phone. If they are phoning from a mobile, don't answer it and then text them saying "sorry, can't speak, busy at the moment". If they knock the door just shout through it "sorry, busy at the moment".
If they dog sit for you - go to a reputable kennels. My dog is a big softy but I use a kennels as I want to be sure she is safe, not let out by mistake, definitely walked etc.

Tombliwho · 08/02/2020 15:31

The problem is you needing something from them, even though they take so much more regularly from you, means it's going to be really tricky to cut down on doing this stuff. If they get pissed off and decide they won't dog sit anymore you're kinda up shit creek. Definitely agree with cutting down slowly and subtly.. maybe every other time they ask, you can be too busy. It sounds like a complete nightmare tbh.

Tombliwho · 08/02/2020 15:31

It reminds me of Black Books when Frans family find out she has an Astra. You could always torch your own car.

MzHz · 08/02/2020 15:32

Move.

It’s the only way out of this, otherwise you’ll have to face the idea of going against all that is British and say “No.”

Good luck!

Supersimkin2 · 08/02/2020 15:32

Loads of good excuses here. Make a list to tape to the back of your phone and use them in order.

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