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Awkward about CFer requests

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StiffUpperQuip · 08/02/2020 13:58

Basically, how do you deal with favour requests that you just don't want to do without coming across as a tight ass?

Now I know these are CF requests and I shouldn't need to do them at all, but how can I say no every single without just coming out and saying, no. I don't want to. Especially as there are some extenuating circumstances.

Upstairs neighbour died quickly of cancer 6 months ago leaving wife and teen DD. I of course offered my help in the last stages, driving them to see him at the hospital, looking after their cat for days while they stayed with him and driving the DD to her work on occasion and afterwards I offered help in a "if you need anything let me know" sympathetic way. Unfortunately they've really taken me up on it! The DD(19) and mom keep expecting lifts everywhere! Like to the shops for example because dad was the driver and now they're without personal transport. Not just a simple "if you're going to the shop let me know" type, no. It's knocking on my door asking me to get up off my couch, stick my shoes and coat on, put my cuppa down and meet them at my car to drive them 350 meters to the Costcutter so they can pick up a loaf, milk, cat food and their cigs!".
My couch faces my floor to ceiling window so even with blinds, you can see me sitting there doing nothing but watching telly. And you can see my car in the car park outside my gate so it's obvious I'm in and likely not doing anything. I can't rearrange my furniture and can't keep my curtains pulled.

They'll phone and message me in an "emergency" to drive 25 minutes there and 25 minutes back to the nearest town because they "missed the bus" and need picking up. Or call first thing to say they're stuck and in desperate need of a lift to an appointment in town and there's no bus that will get them there (true in our area if they don't bother to catch the early bus).

One time it happened I conceded but said no way can I come back for pick up from the dentists as I have X to do and won't be in and she needs to get the bus or taxi back. An hour later my phone blows up and the DD knocks on my door saying mom is stuck because her "lift fell through." It didn't. I was always the lift and she never had bus or taxi money.

Now I really, really don't want to fall out with them because other than that they're great neighbours in our block of flats but I need a more solid list of excuses. I refuse to take petrol money because the second I do, it's a service paid and I don't want them thinking I owe them X rides as they've paid.

They do me favours too but it's definitely a 90/10 split with most coming from my end because I'm probably in a better situation than them. (Ie they'd borrow milk but I wouldn't want or need to ever do that). I'm expecting to be living here for at least another 20 years so good neighbour relations are a must, plus the fact they watch my dog when I need to go visit my dying mom (I can't afford a dog sitter as we're limited income and I need to save for the flights to see her as often as possible as she's terminal)

So go on. Roast me for being too darn soft and too Britishly polite to say, "That doesn't work for me". But what would you do? Really? And not in a "hard as nails, take no shit but only online behind a screen kinda way? I need to wean them off expecting me to ferry them around.

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MyCatHatesEverybody · 09/02/2020 12:43

My family were car-less when I was growing up. My dad, then later I in my late teens, used to do the family shop with one of those wheel-along tartan shopping trollies. If the shops aren't actually that far away they can walk and use one of those. Frozen food is fine in it.

callmeadoctor · 11/02/2020 08:31

Surely your 16 year old can sort the dog out when you are away? Your DH?

StiffUpperQuip · 11/02/2020 09:13

DH and DC do. But maybe three times a year they do actually come with me or have a holiday..

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Chamomileteaplease · 11/02/2020 09:25

I wish you well with sorting out the neighbours.

But with regard to the dog. Does the dog stay in the house for a week by itself? It's one thing to be too old to enjoy a walk but surely it likes company?

StiffUpperQuip · 11/02/2020 10:41

It's just one week a year and it doesn't seem to be bothered at all. DDog has never liked being in kennels in the past. Too stressful.

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CryHavoc · 11/02/2020 13:27

So the dog is left alone, overnight, for up to a week? That really doesn't seem fair. I've had elderly dogs and would never have considered that.

Andylion · 11/02/2020 13:45

Weighing up cost vs saving on dog sitters costs isn't the issue. (It's popping in a couple of times a day letting my elderly dog into the garden and maybe a short walk to the field behind the flats. They don't charge pet sitter prices).

OP. do you pay them to dog sit?

RockinHippy · 11/02/2020 14:11

Just say NO, or "no sorry, not today" if you insists on being polite to pee takers. No explanation needed with cheeky fuckery behaviour & this is definitely that

steppemum · 11/02/2020 14:40

I think I would sit them down and say really nicely, your dad/dh was a lovely bloke, and he used to do all the driving didn't he?
You are finding it hard to adjust without him. I get that. But I am not your dad/dh. I cannot be your lift every time you want a lift. You need to get yourselves sorted and work out how ot live life without him, not by relying on me.
It isn't going to be easy, but I am going to stop giving you lifts. You need to get a warm coat and a bus timetable and start learning to be more independent.

Then eveyr time they ask, you can say - I said I won't do it any more. You need to learn how to do it yourself.

It is basically saying no, but in a way which is framed as for their own good.
I fully expect them to resist, so you will need to perfetc the puzzled and kind face, and learn the line Oh dear, that is sad, but no.

StiffUpperQuip · 11/02/2020 15:06

@Andylion no, no payment. But neither do they pay me for cat (and bird) sitting or anything else I do.

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FraglesRock · 11/02/2020 15:23

So has much changed

YoTheGinPussyOfStMawesOnThigh · 11/02/2020 15:41

Is there any reason why your neighbours cannot have an online delivery for their food and heavier items? A delivery once a month of things they can’t carry easily then top ups inbetween. The DD could maybe pick a few things up on her way home from work each evening.

StiffUpperQuip · 11/02/2020 20:13

@YoTheGinPussyOfStMawesOnThigh food shopping doesn't seem to be an issue. It's quick pops to the shop for incidentals. Cigarettes, milk or a loaf etc. Nipping out for small stuff. Stuff that don't really make me want to get up from my couch to be honest.

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YoTheGinPussyOfStMawesOnThigh · 11/02/2020 21:22

Turn it on its head with them. Next time they knock wanting to go to the shops for fags n stuff thank them for being so kind offering to do your shopping at the same time and hand them a list of what you want.

jelly79 · 11/02/2020 22:33

I'd just be honest with them, that you want to help them out and are happy to do so but not to regularly drive them round the corner as it feels a bit unnecessary

pumpkinbump · 12/02/2020 01:15

Also concerned about their care for the dog. But as far as advice.... Haven't you just started a degree online? You have scheduled phone calls from the tutor that you need to be in for right? And it's soo much work that sometimes you're up all night because you can't get it all done, then you nap in the day. You can even warn them in advance that you're starting an online degree and as much as you enjoy their company, you'll need to spend as much time at home working.

They may be nice people but surely to God they know they're taking the piss out of you! I wouldn't dream of doing this to someone.

I hate hate hate it when I have to leave the house in days I don't have to go to the shop down the road for myself so I can't imagine having to do it for someone else.

StiffUpperQuip · 12/02/2020 07:05

@pumpkinbump oh I like that. An online degree. As long as they don't ask DH anything about it. He's an awful fibber. He really should work on that though because I'm not the only one in this house that gets asked for favours. It's more me but if I'm not in..

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NotSorry · 12/02/2020 07:29

I don’t understand all the advice to lie - it will be very difficult to keep up with what you’ve said.

You’re going to have to pull your big girl knickers up and go and have a chat with them. Decide in advance what you are prepared to offer. (Eg. Once a week shop etc.)

The book previously recommended is good, hence my user name

Nekoness · 12/02/2020 07:53

“And they really are nice people. Just a little clueless about what's an acceptable favour to ask.”

In that case, you need to kill this with kindness. Invite the mother down for coffee/tea and cake. Sit her down and ask her how she is. Talk about the bereavement.

Gently explain you’re concerned she’s not coping. When she asks why, tell her that it’s because her boundaries have blurred and she and her daughter are treating you like a family member expecting you with the driving. They’re asking you to do what her late husband did - but you’re neighbours and it’s not normal to be asking your neighbour to drive you half a mile to a bus stop because that’s what your late husband use to do. Explain how you’re happy to tell her in advance when you’re going to do a big shop and invite her along... but whether she’s realised or not, she’s asked you for lifts x times in y days - and most were places she could have walked to in the time it took you to get ready and drive her there.

Phrase the whole thing in concern for her grief and how it has maybe clouded her judgement and boundaries.

Then start applying the excuses, if the daughter comes to the door.

AgeOld · 12/02/2020 08:03

I'm sure you're not like this op....but I have visions of you just sitting about watching tv all day in front of giant windows and now people are suggesting you walk around with a wine... why not go the full month and get a smoking jacket and a cigar.

I'm finding the image amusing.

Nitpickpicnic · 12/02/2020 08:34

No need for a fake online course.

Your mum is legitimately ill. She’s handed all her household/medical/personal admin over to you, hasn’t she?

When you’re on the sofa in front of the telly, have your laptop or tablet within reach. You’re just waiting for a call from your mum to confirm a detail, or you’re waiting for the timezone to click over so you can ring her. You couldn’t possibly get up to go anywhere. Have a sheaf of medical-looking papers on hand.

You just need to keep it up for a while, until they break the habit. A few weeks tops, they’ll have to find alternatives. If they keep asking, look a bit exasperated (shouldn’t be too hard) and say helplessly ‘Look, obviously my circumstances have changed, you know only too well how hard the admin around ill-health is. Plus mum is overseas. I’m afraid I’m just not available for lifts any more.’

Job done.

Nitpickpicnic · 12/02/2020 08:36

Didn’t mean to sound cavalier over your mum’s illness, just been through it too often and it’s my ‘normal’.

It’s actually a precious and stressful time for your family, and you need to ‘unshoulder’ these extra burdens. Flowers to you.

draughtycatflap · 12/02/2020 08:54

Hire a wheelchair and wear a fake leg cast when you are watching telly, OP. Invent a grumpy old Uncle Angus who is looking after you. You could go out in disguise with a wig and bushy beard and whenever they knock the door he would answer and shout “Feck off!”.

This should work for ages but if your neighbours are persistent I’d consider faking your own death.

OldEvilOwl · 12/02/2020 09:12

Keep a note of how many times you are asked in a week, then go and speak to them and say it's getting a bit much. This sounds like a nightmare. I would just start ignoring their messages to be honest

ASundayWellSpent · 12/02/2020 09:29

I would decided what type of relationship you want with them and then put boundaries in place to make that it happens. You don't need to make excuse, you've been doing them a favour its not obligatory. "Hi CF I understand that you need a ride to the dentist, but the amount of favours you're asking me for is more than I am capable of offering at this time. I'll be going to do my big shop on Friday at 11 if you want to come with me then. The Number 10 bus stops near the dentist if my memory serves." I think you can maintain enough of a cordial neighbourly relationship in this way so that they can look after your dog for you. If it weren't for that I would be telling them to hop on their bike haha

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