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Awkward about CFer requests

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StiffUpperQuip · 08/02/2020 13:58

Basically, how do you deal with favour requests that you just don't want to do without coming across as a tight ass?

Now I know these are CF requests and I shouldn't need to do them at all, but how can I say no every single without just coming out and saying, no. I don't want to. Especially as there are some extenuating circumstances.

Upstairs neighbour died quickly of cancer 6 months ago leaving wife and teen DD. I of course offered my help in the last stages, driving them to see him at the hospital, looking after their cat for days while they stayed with him and driving the DD to her work on occasion and afterwards I offered help in a "if you need anything let me know" sympathetic way. Unfortunately they've really taken me up on it! The DD(19) and mom keep expecting lifts everywhere! Like to the shops for example because dad was the driver and now they're without personal transport. Not just a simple "if you're going to the shop let me know" type, no. It's knocking on my door asking me to get up off my couch, stick my shoes and coat on, put my cuppa down and meet them at my car to drive them 350 meters to the Costcutter so they can pick up a loaf, milk, cat food and their cigs!".
My couch faces my floor to ceiling window so even with blinds, you can see me sitting there doing nothing but watching telly. And you can see my car in the car park outside my gate so it's obvious I'm in and likely not doing anything. I can't rearrange my furniture and can't keep my curtains pulled.

They'll phone and message me in an "emergency" to drive 25 minutes there and 25 minutes back to the nearest town because they "missed the bus" and need picking up. Or call first thing to say they're stuck and in desperate need of a lift to an appointment in town and there's no bus that will get them there (true in our area if they don't bother to catch the early bus).

One time it happened I conceded but said no way can I come back for pick up from the dentists as I have X to do and won't be in and she needs to get the bus or taxi back. An hour later my phone blows up and the DD knocks on my door saying mom is stuck because her "lift fell through." It didn't. I was always the lift and she never had bus or taxi money.

Now I really, really don't want to fall out with them because other than that they're great neighbours in our block of flats but I need a more solid list of excuses. I refuse to take petrol money because the second I do, it's a service paid and I don't want them thinking I owe them X rides as they've paid.

They do me favours too but it's definitely a 90/10 split with most coming from my end because I'm probably in a better situation than them. (Ie they'd borrow milk but I wouldn't want or need to ever do that). I'm expecting to be living here for at least another 20 years so good neighbour relations are a must, plus the fact they watch my dog when I need to go visit my dying mom (I can't afford a dog sitter as we're limited income and I need to save for the flights to see her as often as possible as she's terminal)

So go on. Roast me for being too darn soft and too Britishly polite to say, "That doesn't work for me". But what would you do? Really? And not in a "hard as nails, take no shit but only online behind a screen kinda way? I need to wean them off expecting me to ferry them around.

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Didshereally · 08/02/2020 15:32

Also
I'm too tired
I have a headache starting
I'm in the middle of something (phone call, admin and on the line to call centre...)
I had a glass of wine and won't drive after any alcohol
I've taken my tablets so can't drive now (be vague!)
I'm cooking and dinner will be ruined
I'm not free now
I have friends due round
I only have a bit of time (before I need to... go out, get on with something...)
I've an early start tomorrow so am about to have an early night
I'm working (get your laptop out and leave it up, they don't need to know it's MN ..)
I'm in the middle of eBay bidding and can't leave
I'm waiting for an important phone call
I'm in the middle of sorting things out (points to papers) so I'm not free now
I can offer you a lift when I go to shops which will be Tuesday evening but not now (really do you want to start a weekly shop lift though?)
No I'm low on petrol and not using my car tonight
I don't want to go out, it's cold and my car is frosted up
I'm cold and coming down with something
I don't feel great .../ well....
I'm not up for driving tonight
I'm achy after a hard day and about to get in the bath /or into bed
I don't have time tonight
I'm busy ("you're watching telly"... I Multi-task with telly on)
I'm shaving my legs/waxing my lip/ have beauty treatment on (to texts)
I am comfortable and not planning on going out this evening as I just got home
No thankyou (that's my favourite reply to CF requests as it throws them!)
Or wait 24 -72 hours and reply "sorry, phone on silent. Hope you're sorted"
How about you ignore doorbell and texts
If your NDN can see in you'll never get a break so please put something up over that window or a leafy pot plant by window that you can duck behind! Grin Have you tried wearing he as phones or turning music up so you can't hear them knocking. Leave them out here ages so they give up or answer door after a while that you didn't hear them and are busy working so can't help

StrongTea · 08/02/2020 15:33

Why can’t the daughter learn to drive? Have they still got the car?

ShesGotBetteDavisEyes · 08/02/2020 15:33

Move Grin

NotMyFinestMoment · 08/02/2020 15:35

Say you have an issue with your lower back/hips and sitting for even short periods of time is really aggravating it, so you need to rest up and will not be available to help with lifts as the regular driving and sitting in the same position without being able to change position is really aggravating your low back/hips.

shinyredbus · 08/02/2020 15:35

Answer one in every 5 calls and then make an excuse up on the 6th call.

Mamboitaliano · 08/02/2020 15:35

Yes a combination of all the above.

Stop answering your phone or texts unless you want to (I stopped years ago and it's funny how people get cross at first and then stop feeling entitled to get hold of you).

If possible, don't answer your door either. Just say later, 'Oh I don't answer it if I'm not expecting anyone as I get bothered by strangers at the door'.

For the pisstake ones, be polite but firm, 'No, sorry, I'm just relaxing and it's only up the road. It'll take longer for me to get ready than it will for you to walk there'.

For the rest - excuses. I've had a drink, I don't feel well, I've hurt my back, I'm trying to drive as little as possible to save the environment, I'm off to bed in a minute, I'm waiting for a call, I've got a friend coming round, I'm just about to eat, my eyes are too tired for driving, I'm doing some work, I'm masturbating etc etc.

XXcstatic · 08/02/2020 15:35

Using the cost of petrol is a dangerous excuse, as they might offer you petrol money.

Given that you need them to carry on dog-minding, I would focus on trying to manage their requests to reduce the inconvenience, rather than stopping them asking completely. So I'd tell them that you're going to the shops on - say - Wednesday at 4: do they want to come or for you to pick them anything up (assuming you trust them to pay you back)? Then, when they text on Thursday, asking for a lift, it's easier to say, sorry it's not convenient at the moment.

Didshereally · 08/02/2020 15:36

Oooh this one is good

The piss take ones - that save them walking a block or two - "sorry, I can't. I'm being more environmentally conscious and now don't use my car for trips of under a mile each way" (or even a couple miles)

NotMyFinestMoment · 08/02/2020 15:38

Also say your expecting friends over/a couple of deliveries/you're feeling too drowsy too drive as you are on painkillers/you're busy/you have had a glass of wine so do not want to drive. After a few times of being told no, they will go elsewhere. Say you've got a tummy bug and don't want to go out. They really are CF's.

Drum2018 · 08/02/2020 15:39

Order the book 'The Life Changing Magic of Not Giving a Fuck' and read it a few times.
Meanwhile ignore their messages. Stop reading them altogether so they cannot claim you've read them. If they knock on your door answer it with a large glass of red in your hand - every time. Leave a glass near the door at all times. They'll finally cop that you must have a problem with alcohol so won't want you driving them anymore. For times you forget to pick up the wine when they knock, just say you're not available and don't invite them in, just close the door before they ask why- no excuse and no apology.
When you've read the book you will learn how to value your time, energy and money, all of which these people are currently draining you of.

Isleepinahedgefund · 08/02/2020 15:41

From their perspective, they ended up with a huge logistical problem after the father passed away. I bet he used to pick them up from the bus stop etc etc. They have come up with frankly the worst and most bizarre solution to that problem.

In the interests of remaining friends with them, I think it might be kind to sit them down and help them work out how they are going to get round (taxi? Bus?) and be more mindful of this when they arrange appointments etc - I bet they’re not thinking about it because they never had to. They’re adjusting to life without father there I’d be frank and acknowledge that it is a terrible situation (I wouldn’t used those words exactly) but they can’t keep relying on you forever (as you won’t be doing it anymore and they are abusing your goodwill).

Any form of saying no will go down like a tonne of bricks and make relations frosty for a while I’d imagine. Before you talk to them, I would make sure you have someone else who could look after your dog.

I must say though, they’re so brass necked it did make me chuckle!

Branster · 08/02/2020 15:49

You need to start drinking so then you have a proper excuse.
Or encourage DD to take driving lessons - if they can afford to smoke, they can afford driving lessons and presumably they already have a car.
Or move away.
Or say the car broke down and can’t use it for a month - although if you need to take yourself somewhere that might be weird unless you park a few streets away.

It really is a delicate situation and they are taking advantage of you.

Jess827 · 08/02/2020 15:49

You don't need excuses, although good ones have been offered here.

Long term you'd be better practising learning to say no and enforce reasonable boundaries. You've got yourself in a pickle but it's a real life skill to push back on people like this.

You're the type of person who'd set yourself on fire to keep someone else warm, as my old gran would have said. Stop that behaviour by learning the skills to say actually, no, that's at a personal cost I'm not willing to pay.

idontlike789 · 08/02/2020 15:50

It's difficult because like most people you say if you need anything and of course you don't mind the odd lift but some people get cheeky . It's probably what the dh did ferry them around everywhere poor sod .
I'd don't even give a lift to my adult dc they walk / taxi / bus . I occasionally I'll give a lift as a favour but I'm busy and tired after working all week so no and they know that .
Good examples already given but they sound the sort to not take the hint . You definitely need to say no and that it's a favour your not taking the role of the dh over.

Do not quietly seethe as they clearly think you don't mind .

PrincessHoneysuckle · 08/02/2020 15:50

Hrtft but I hope they are giving you petrol money regularly

HearMeSnore · 08/02/2020 15:51

Get a pair of crutches and hobble on them to answer the door. Your arthritis/sciatica/back pain could flare up any time and stop you from being able to drive.

And don't forget about your MOT - if that expires you won't be able to drive until you get it sorted. (You can only really use this one once and the peace will only last until you need to use the car yourself, but it's a good one!)

CeibaTree · 08/02/2020 15:51

Do they have mobility issues? Why can't they walk the 250m from the bus stop to your house? I think the glass of wine excuse is the best, and if they think you have developed a day time drinking habit, they may decide to give you a wider berth! It's terribly sad what has happened to them, and I think I would be a bit more sympathetic to the situation if the daughter was 9, and not 19. You have done a really nice thing by helping them out for this long, but you aren't doing them any favours long-term if they can't facilitate their own lives.

Tanith · 08/02/2020 15:56

You need to make it more inconvenient or expensive to ask you for the lift instead of an alternative.

I would start by taking that petrol money. At least you wouldn't be stewing and out of pocket.

thenightsky · 08/02/2020 15:58

You need to get a bit of a reputation as a heavy drinker so they know you will be incapable of driving after lunchtime every day.

Imtootired · 08/02/2020 15:58

Maybe talk to them one day and say that you haven’t been feeling well lately at all and you’re not sure exactly what’s wrong with you yet but you really need to rest and maybe make one or two times per week that you will be doing your shopping and they can come along with you at those times. And then speak to them conversationally about driving lessons. Maybe you could look up affordable ones in your area?

Berthatydfil · 08/02/2020 16:05

I would hate this especially the little trips down the road.
I would try ignoring calls and texts - phone is on silent /battery flat.

It’s a bit harder if they are knocking on your door though, can you get that film for your window so they can’t see in, or rearrange your room ?

You also need some reasons why you can’t just jump up to help every time they ask.
Like
I have had a glass of wine so won’t drive - this will work any time after 6.30pm.
I have a migraine /sciatica/ etc and the doctor /pharmacist says I’m not to drive once I’ve taken my tablets - when excuse above doesn’t work.
I’m running a bath/having an early night/ I’m going out in 5 minutes myself (somewhere in the opposite direction)
I’m waiting for a part/a repair on the car so I’m only using it for essential journeys.
I’m making an effort to be more environmentally friendly so cutting down on using my car/ walking more/ only using the car for essential trips.
Ive just started waxing my tache/ tinting my eyebrows/ colouring my hair/ putting a face mask on etc so I’m not venturing out for the rest of the evening /next couple of hours.

If they message you saying they are stuck somewhere - it’s such a shame you can’t help have you tried - x, y, z (taxi numbers)

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/02/2020 16:05

The very best solution would be to find someone else to dog sit so you can knock this on the head

For the "excuse collection", though, do you have a landline? If so, call it from your mobile just as you're about to answer the door and immediately say you can't talk because of the worrying call that's just coming

Lizadork · 08/02/2020 16:07

As others have said - gain a new wine habit, make yourself less visible inside your home and perhaps park car further away, don't be so eager to answer texts/calls/door. I spent quite a while hiding behind curtains after neighbours decided my house was the place to let their kids run wild with constant requests of brews/biscuits - I never could work up the guts to say I wanted my own home to be my own space.

HermioneWeasley · 08/02/2020 16:09

You need to be prepared to find alternative dog sitters or you’ll be at their mercy

UltimateIrritant · 08/02/2020 16:10

I think you need to concentrate on finding someone else to care for your dog. Once that's done you'll be free.

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