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Amber Heard and Depp audio

209 replies

MargeB · 02/02/2020 00:09

Am I the only one sickened by the latest audio of Amber admitting to physically assaulting Depp? Calling him a baby, her excuse being she gets 'so mad sometimes', and how hitting him in the face wasnt a punch because she didn't 'deck' him. Im sorry, she's vile.

And shame on all the MN posters over the past few years calling for Depp to be cancelled and how disgusted everyone was that he still had a career.

Those of us who tried to urge caution were shouted down as defenders of a wife beater. I hope those expressing their disgust have a long hard look at them selves, or better listen to the audio.

Shes trash, and to think Depps kids have been bullied on social media for sticking up for him, whilst he was being abused by that horrible woman.

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messolini9 · 02/02/2020 12:13

Who gets to decide who's telling the truth?

Not the general public, thankfully.

RainbowAlicorn · 02/02/2020 12:22

Can those of you who still believe Amber please explain something to me.
In the audio Amber is shouting at him and upset with him because everytime they start to 'fight' he walks away, if he always walks away and leaves (which is what she is pissed off about) how is he hitting her?
He says in the video that he walks off because in those situations he doesn't feel safe!! Yet you still believe her? How? There is absolutely no proof on Amber's part as the small amount she actually had has been proved to be false and or faked, yet he has a mountain of evidence against her and you refuse to believe him, why? Because he is a man?

Sussexroyalewithcheese · 02/02/2020 12:46

**Even if she was violent too, whilst awful, F on M violence has nothing like the life threatening consequences and danger of M on F violence. She's a very slight woman and he's a well-built man.

Yes, men out power women. Which is why it can be harder for men to admit they are being physically abused by a female partner.

Also your point seriously overlooks the damage of emotional abuse and coercive control in any relationship by any party.

Shadyshadow · 02/02/2020 12:53

Is it fact that she faked bruises or are people guessing?

Video tape and eye witnesses say she didnt have bruises at the time she took the photos. The evidence is very strong that she faked them.

doolallylala · 02/02/2020 12:57

@messolini9 How does saying what I read mean I have internalised homophobia?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/homophobic-arrested-heard-2009-openly-gay-report-article-1.2666985%3foutputType=amp

what is an Officer doing commenting on a DV incident, outside of official channels, on the cesspit that is twitter?

Where has Beverly Leonard mentioned domestic violence?. What other platform should a gay person accused of homophobia defend herself on? Or is she not allowed to defend herself?

KatyCarrCan · 02/02/2020 13:00

I don't understand people who jump to support a celeb no matter what, twisting truths to try to make them right.

Do they think they know them? Do they think the celeb will be grateful? I see all these overly emotional and demanding 'fans' on social media and think why are they so invested in their image of a stranger?

doolallylala · 02/02/2020 13:05

twisting truths to try to make them right.

Whose twisting truths?

MitziK · 02/02/2020 13:11

My mother is a full 4' 11.5". She has had severe arthritis and a spinal fusion.

She beat the crap out of me, first with fists, but then once her hands and back hurt too much and she nearly fell over when stamping on my bare feet whilst wearing shoes she'd deliberately put on for the occasion, she swapped to using whatever was at hand. Kitchen knives were waved around, a iron held near my face, she kept a metre stick by her settee for having a go at me or, if he was closer, the dog, as that would upset me more. I finally cut contact when she, the sweet, little whitehaired old lady, whacked me around the face with a lightweight for disabled gardeners garden rake, aiming for my eye.

Two of my brothers were also on the receiving end of it. My sister remembers how they were threatened with more of the same happening to the eldest if they breathed a word of what she had done at school.

At 13, I could have flattened her with one punch. I never, never raised my hand to her. Because I knew I could have hurt her - and I'm not a violent abuser. Of course men can physically damage somebody smaller than them. That's why most who are physically abused don't do it. My one brother who did react instinctively when she had cornered him and pushed her away ended up with a beating from her Golden Child, as she screamed and wailed and sobbed that he'd attacked poor little, defenceless her. My brother was about an inch taller, four stone lighter and has spina bifida. But he was, apparently, the violent one and she was the poor, sweet, little innocent victim.

magicfarawaytrees · 02/02/2020 13:27

Sorry not read the full thread but 2 narcissists/egomaniacs with too much time and money get together and we are meant to be surprised they don’t get along after the initial lust or status has diminished? They both deserve each other and should have stayed together- at least they wouldn’t be out spoiling another couple then. Bear in mind as well he knows he is being recorded there and she obviously doesn’t- this recording was clearly his insurance card for if they split so he is clearly going to be on his best behaviour here.

It was clear on that Australia apology they were both a pair of weirdos.

magicfarawaytrees · 02/02/2020 13:30

MitziK that’s so awful, I’m so sorry you all went through that :(

MargeB · 02/02/2020 13:38

She's literally admitting she was physically violent towards him in the audio, and worse still blaming him because he walks out instead of staying and fighting! And its also not her fault, she just gets so mad sometimes! So yes, shes trash.

Listening to her trying to justify hitting him in the face and saying it wasnt a punch and he didnt get hurt that much, dont be a baby for calling his security guards, then telling the world she was the victim, is trash. Sorry, it is. She sounds demented and frankly a psycho in that audio.

Its Depps fault she hits him because he walks out when she starts going mad, instead of staying and fighting. Why would he stay and get knocked around or have vases thrown at him? But its ok, Amber admits she just can't help it because she gets so mad sometimes. And people are still defending her abuse. Its sickening.

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SummersMahoosiveClipOnFringe · 02/02/2020 13:39

WOW. She needs serious help if she isn't already getting it.. She sounds completely unhinged- controlling, manipulative and gaslighting.

The supplying of the Xanax.....

I am really concerned how this will affect the organisations for which she has presented as a victim of abuse.

I understand both of them were involved in an abusive dynamic but that tape proves her to be an unreliable witness to say the least.

SummersMahoosiveClipOnFringe · 02/02/2020 13:42

That is to say if that tape is authentic.

Patroclus · 02/02/2020 13:47

Those debating the nature of female violence, remember what Caroline Flack did recently with a lamp.

doolallylala · 02/02/2020 13:48

Bear in mind as well he knows he is being recorded there and she obviously doesn’t-

They were both aware of the recording as it was part of their therapy or similar.

@MitziK how awful.

RuffleCrow · 02/02/2020 14:26

Any way of verifying this tape?

ShatnersWig · 02/02/2020 14:42

Jesus some of the comments on this thread are depressing as hell regarding abuse towards men.

Patroclus · 02/02/2020 14:44

Apparantly she shit in his bed becuse he was late to her birthday party. What in the name of all thats holy?

Shadyshadow · 02/02/2020 14:49

Since the tapes are forming part of his civil case so if not verified yet, which I would bet they are, they will be.

Shadyshadow · 02/02/2020 14:53

Presses send too soon.

But is that what we are going for?

This woman who has become an advocate for victims of DV, admits to committing DV herself.

The 'it's not that bad when women hit men's argument has no basis. The 'she cant hurt him as much as he hurts her'argument has no basis.

So let's pretend the tapes are faked.

Forget the evidence she faked her bruises and so its above lying about DV. The tapes are probably fake. Ok thenHmm

KatyCarrCan · 02/02/2020 15:15

the evidence she faked her bruises
This type of twisting doolally . There is no 'proof' that she faked her bruises. There are lots of different stories from both sides, both camps and people who are dependent on them for their income.

But some posters on here are pretending they know the truth about the bruises; the context and provenance of this tape (and whether it's edited or not); the context and provenance of the video tape that showed Depp being abusive, etc. There are a lot of people presenting conjecture as fact. And ignoring inconvenient facts that actually were established in court and put out in joint statements from them both.

Shadyshadow · 02/02/2020 16:00

There is proof she faked her bruises.

Theres camera footage and eye witnesses that gave their statements to the police.

How is that not evidence?

When she set herself up as a advocate for victims of DV, do you think it's ok to do that when you were committing it yourself?

Shadyshadow · 02/02/2020 16:01

Oh and no I dont think he is an entirely innocent party either.

messolini9 · 02/02/2020 16:03

@messolini9 How does saying what I read mean I have internalised homophobia?
Disseminating articles which use the offensive phrase "openly gay" propogates homophobia @doolallylala, & if you are unaware of that, while you may not consider yourself "openly homophobic" (see how that stings?) you have certainly absorbed some of the more toxic messaging around sexual orientation.

Your link doesn't open, & I'm not interested in your example of the Officer in question anyway, because your argument does not hold water. Maintaining that an arrest could not have been predicated by homophobic sentiments because an Officer who is gay was present is exactly the same as pretending that a vexatious stop & search of a black citizen was not racially motivated because a black Officer was present.

Here's a link that should help you understand why the phrase "openly gay" should not be bandied about -
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/fleabag-andrew-scott-openly-gay-gq-interview-lgbt-a9097211.html

chicken2015 · 02/02/2020 16:46

This is a reqlly interesting YouTube video talking about all the evidence