Amber Heard and Depp audio

[MargeB]

Am I the only one sickened by the latest audio of Amber admitting to physically assaulting Depp? Calling him a baby, her excuse being she gets 'so mad sometimes', and how hitting him in the face wasnt a punch because she didn't 'deck' him. Im sorry, she's vile.

And shame on all the MN posters over the past few years calling for Depp to be cancelled and how disgusted everyone was that he still had a career.

Those of us who tried to urge caution were shouted down as defenders of a wife beater. I hope those expressing their disgust have a long hard look at them selves, or better listen to the audio.

Shes trash, and to think Depps kids have been bullied on social media for sticking up for him, whilst he was being abused by that horrible woman.

Yeah I mean saying there were just two whites female happy people walking along having a minor disagreement and some homophobic lesbian police person comes along and decides to arrest amber.
I mean really, likely? I don’t think so

However, one drunken/stoned recorded phonecall does not negate any physical abuse she suffered so please save your shaming for those who deserve it OP.

That doesnt make sense. If it was a drunken/stoned converstation where she said he hit her, would you believe it?

DV isnt just about the physical harm. It's also about the emotion impact as well. Which can be just as bad.

So yes women, can inflict as much emotional harm. And throwing things can very quickly end up with someone dead.

One of the thread titles at the time was 'amber heard, I believe you'. I wonder if these people still believe her now.

How has she helped this cause. Plenty of evidence shows she didnt have the bruises she claimed to have. Faking injuries and saying someone else caused them, is abuse in itself. It's also an insight into the mind of someone who has very dark motives. It's common for men who abuse women to complain they are abused and fake incidents. But people will still seem to believe that he must have been the abuser.

The truth is, we dont know. It sounds like the marriage was fucked up and they were both troubled. But it the evidence all points to her being a regular physical abuser, who then used the current climate to claim she was a victim and boost her own career.

How anyone can stand beside her after she lied, I just dont understand. Not standing by her doesnt mean that you dont agree than DV committed by men is a real, huge problem. It simply means that this one woman, lied.

Whatever she said to him, words are never a justification for violence.

Even if she was violent too, whilst awful, F on M violence has nothing like the life threatening consequences and danger of M on F violence. She's a very slight woman and he's a well-built man.

@GlummyMcGlummerson

Are you saying you see nothing wrong in her behaviour at all?

On the recording she admits that she attacked him while he was laying in bed watching TV because she was worried he would leave her.

Surely that is a big red flag for domestic abuse. She calls him a ‘big fucking baby’ for trying to get away from her while she was assaulting him. This is after the fact. She appears to see this kind of violence as normal in a relationship.

To be frank, a lot of what she says comes across as emotionally manipulative. Her biggest complaint is that after Australia, where she admits to throwing things at him during a fight, he runs away when arguments get heated. She is complaining that he won’t hang around for her to take out her rage on him.

But, yes. He is the abuser.

I'm aware of the arrest with Heard's Ex, if you'd RTFT you'd see how both parties have repeatedly claimed there was no assault they were targeted by homophobic police officers

One of the police officers was gay. The airport security and eyewitnesses all watched the assault and called for police. You going to take an abusers word over all the people who watched it happen in public? And I know a former girlfriend did testify to amber being abusive...I will find a quote for that in a minute.

You seriously believe the abuser who has an arrest record for domestic abuse because a public incident wasn’t that serious (but still bad enough to get her arrested) that behind closed doors Amber would behave better? We all know abusers are worse in private versus public.

can see that Depp claims is damning are of Heard in an elevator after he allegedly attacked, he's claiming the grainy footage shows no bruises'

The elevator footage with James Franco (who doesn't at all have dodgy history with women) hiding their faces? Wonder why Franco's lawyers are requesting a sealed disposition...

That's not an argument and you know it @aroundthworldyet. Don't @ me again until you've formed one.

I've already pointed out gay people can be homophobic

So because the gay officer says she's not homophobia she must be because Amber & her girlfriend who had nothing else to gain said so.

The reaching in some of these posts.

How anyone can stand beside her after she lied, I just dont understand. Not standing by her doesnt mean that you dont agree than DV committed by men is a real, huge problem. It simply means that this one woman, lied.

Well said.

Even if she was violent too, whilst awful, F on M violence has nothing like the life threatening consequences and danger of M on F violence. She's a very slight woman and he's a well-built man.

Is he? A well built man?

But that's not the point. I know someone who put her husband, who was 6ft 4in in hospital. She punched him in the back of the head with her rings on. Sliced open his head and caused concussion. She was slight built and 5 ft 4.

Are you seriously saying that's not dangerous.

Throwing a bottle a someone cause injury that needs surgery isnt serious? Which is what AH did.

Would you be saying that, if this was your son?

The thing I find really interesting about this is when it all started and JD was the abuser the outcry was massive. He lost roles, his reputation was ruined. Now there is evidence of AH being an abuser the amount of comments I'm reading about how we don't know what goes on in a relationship or it was self defence or they're as bad as each other. Why are they BOTH to blame when it's the female abusing but when it's the male (with pretty sketchy evidence to prove it) the male is automatically a woman beating arsehole and should never work again?

I also think the attitude that M on F domestic abuse is somehow worse than the other way round is disgusting. Abuse is abuse. I'd say cutting off someone's finger tip is pretty harmful. Men may typically be stronger than women in a fist fight but I'm pretty sure me with a knife is going to cause more damage than my husband with his fists.

Not standing by her doesnt mean that you dont agree than DV committed by men is a real, huge problem. It simply means that this one woman, lied.

Exactly

@RuffleCrow
You’re a disgrace
And an abuse apologist.

This case aside. All abuse is unacceptable. Physical or not. Women can and do abuse. And of course male on female incidents are higher it does not mean it’s any LESS important.
Emotional abuse is one of the worst types of abuse in terms of long term damage.

I don’t believe in any type of abuse but I sure as fuck wouldn’t ever utter a sentence that said female on male abuse isn’t as bad as male on female abuse because women aren’t as strong and mental abuse isn’t as bad a physical abuse.
Fucking disgusting

F on M violence has nothing like the life threatening consequences and danger of M on F violence. She's a very slight woman and he's a well-built man.

She allegedly threw pots/pans/vases/bottles at him. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Why are they BOTH to blame when it's the female abusing but when it's the male (with pretty sketchy evidence to prove it) the male is automatically a woman beating arsehole and should never work again?

Exactly!

What does Johnny have to gain by this, as this thread proofs some people think he's abusive no matter what & will continue to do so so why drag it all up again?

Let me get this right, if Depp and Heard are talking about their relationship - you believe Depp.
If Heard and her ex are talking about their relationship and the airport incident - you believe Depp? because Amber's ex said the relationship wasn't abusive and neither was the incident at the airport.

I am not taking sides - most likely there is fault on both sides in this.

The constant minimising of F on M abuse is sickening though.

Rufflecrow sounds just like Amber....downplay the violence...

From the audio
“A Dailymail report quoted Heard as saying, “I’m sorry that I didn’t, uh, uh, hit you across the face in a proper slap, but I was hitting you, it was not punching you. Babe, you’re not punched,” Heard tells Depp, attempting to downplay her outburst the previous evening. “I don’t know what the motion of my actual hand was, but you’re fine, I did not hurt you, I did not punch you, I was hitting you,” she says in the video.”

And
“Just because I’ve thrown pots and pans does not mean you cannot come and knock on my door,” Amber says and Depp cuts in to suggest he’s also had vases hurled at him, she replies, “Just because there are vases does not mean that you come and knock on the door.”

“Really, I should just let you throw? The only time I ever threw anything at you was when you f**king threw the cans at me in Australia,’ he admits in the audio clip.”

if Depp and Heard are talking about their relationship - you believe Depp

Nope, I'm listening to what Amber is saying & questioning my belief in her

@KatyCarrCan no. On the tape I believe both of them. Which is clear it's a fucked up relationship with her being extremely violent. Him throwing something once.

I believe the extensive evidence that she faked her bruises

On the arrest I believe the police officer and witnesses. Rather than a woman who has a lot if evidence to prove she faked DV against herself.

F on M violence has nothing like the life threatening consequences and danger of M on F violence. She's a very slight woman and he's a well-built man.

Just from my sofa I can clearly identify at least 10 objects I could easily use to cause GBH or worse to someone bigger than me...

I found it really telling that he still has a strong relationship with his ex, Vanessa Paradis, who repeatedly said that in a relationship spanning twenty years, he didn't lay a single finger on her and was very gentle.

I honestly believe they were both as bad as one another. He was with his ex for almost 20 years with zero drama whatsoever, he married Amber and all hell broke loose. They just weren’t destined to be together, it was a toxic relationship and it’s for the best they’re now divorced. I think they exposed each other’s worst sides.

Tara Roberts who has worked on Johnnys island since 2008 said the below. Is she a liar too?

Amber's screaming and berating rose to a fever pitch, and Johnny continued to yell 'go away' and 'leave me alone'." Tara recalls. "I saw Amber lunge at Johnny, clawing, tugging and aggressively pulling on him. He continued to stand there yelling at her to stop and leave him alone."
Roberts claims she physically stepped in between the pair at one point, claiming she saw Johnny "now had a red, swelling gash on the bridge of his nose".