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Amber Heard and Depp audio

209 replies

MargeB · 02/02/2020 00:09

Am I the only one sickened by the latest audio of Amber admitting to physically assaulting Depp? Calling him a baby, her excuse being she gets 'so mad sometimes', and how hitting him in the face wasnt a punch because she didn't 'deck' him. Im sorry, she's vile.

And shame on all the MN posters over the past few years calling for Depp to be cancelled and how disgusted everyone was that he still had a career.

Those of us who tried to urge caution were shouted down as defenders of a wife beater. I hope those expressing their disgust have a long hard look at them selves, or better listen to the audio.

Shes trash, and to think Depps kids have been bullied on social media for sticking up for him, whilst he was being abused by that horrible woman.

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Brazi103 · 02/02/2020 05:26

I remember saying I didnt believe her back then and was flamed on MN for that.
She deserves all the shit that's coming her way. She seems psycho.

GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou · 02/02/2020 05:53

Well, the press has always had two personas when it comes to Amber Heard.

"Psycho" and "Victim".

I suppose she is a psycho this week? It's alarming how much some women take pleasure in that.

TeddyIsaHe · 02/02/2020 06:55

I believe every woman until proven otherwise. This is very incriminating and once again is a massive set back for women, because allegedly she had lied about it.

MN is very weird about female domestic violence.

MaggieAndHopey · 02/02/2020 07:00

I can't work out how this was recorded? Who recorded it?

TeddyIsaHe · 02/02/2020 07:20

@MaggieAndHopey it says on the tape they routinely recorded their conversations to use as a tool to work through things.

Margotshypotheticaldog · 02/02/2020 07:31

No fool like an old fool.

VanillaGodzilla · 02/02/2020 07:42

In actual real life, not theory, how much damage could a woman do

That neglects to understand the psychological elements of physical violence.

In actual real life, it doesn't matter how strong your arms are if someone is pouring boiling water over you. It doesn't matter who can over power who if you've just been surprised with a pan to the head. Or a knife at your throat. Or if you fear losing your children if you cause trouble. Or if you are so shattered mentally you worry you won't be able to work to fund yourself if you split.

To restrain someone from hurting you takes more than just holding their arms. You have to be prepared to hurt them back because they will struggle and kick etc. It is not as simple as saying on average men are stronger so don't have to be hurt. Women can do much, much more than 'land a ouch or two'.

iem0128 · 02/02/2020 08:20

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TeddyIsaHe · 02/02/2020 08:26

@iem0128 what? Her sexuality is absolutely nothing to do with this and I have no idea why you’ve brought it up.

HeadachesByTheDozen · 02/02/2020 08:31

@iem0128 So you're saying there is something wrong with being bi-sexual?

Whatsername177 · 02/02/2020 08:46

The pair of them were in a pattern of abusive and violent behaviour. All victims of abuse should be believed. AH and JD are both victims and both perpetrators. I hope they get help.

AllergicToAMop · 02/02/2020 08:51

There are some big people and companies who owe Depp a proper public apologies. While at the same time I am awaiting some execs announcing that Heard will not be playing in movies/series by their productions?
Well, that will never happen though, is it...
#greattohavevajayjay 🤷

iem0128 · 02/02/2020 08:54

TeddyIsaHe Some people, not all, get very angry because they are confused in their sexuality as they are trapped in the wrong body. It can take people quite a while to work out why they are so angry and aggressive. This could be an underlying reason.

doolallylala · 02/02/2020 08:58

I actually feel bad that I just assumed he was guilty. As I said previously they clearly were in a very dysfunctional relationship but I now believe she was lying when she said she feared he would kill her.

thebluearsefly · 02/02/2020 09:00

Off topic but why are we all using “Trash” as an insult now. YABU for that alone.

HeadachesByTheDozen · 02/02/2020 09:04

@doolallylala He can be guilty and she can still fear for her life while they are both at fault. There is no evidence she lied.

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RainbowAlicorn · 02/02/2020 09:11

They recorded it on Amber's phone. They had been advised to record themselves whilst talking through issues with each other, to listen back to. They both refer to other recordings in this recording, and at the end she says she needs to turn it off because her phone battery is getting low.
She admits to hitting him, throwing things at him and asks him to help her not be that way. She gas lights and belittles him all the way through. She never once mentions him physically attacking her in the hour long audio, the only person who says he has any part in it is him, when he says the only time I threw anything back at you was in Australia, he is also the one who walks out of fights so they don't get violent, which is what she is arguing with him about, because she doesn't want him to walk off, she wants him to stay and fight. He even says at one point he doesn't feel safe, but yeah the abuse SHE suffered at HIS hands.

doolallylala · 02/02/2020 09:21

He can be guilty and she can still fear for her life while they are both at fault. There is no evidence she lied.

I don't understand why it all comes back to being his fault. Where is the evidence she is not lying? Or that he is lying? Like I said I can only go on the dv situations I know & I don't believe someone who is in fear of their life would talk to their "abuser" like that.

doolallylala · 02/02/2020 09:23

theblast.com/c/johnny-depp-amber-heard-text-messages-parents-eviction-lawyers-fault

Read the texts between Johnny & her parents, it doesn't read like an abuser.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 02/02/2020 09:23

Are people saying "i NevEr BelEiVeD hEr" genuinely thick? Admitting that she hit him doesn't mean her never hit her - I mean there were bruises on her face and a video what more evidence do people want?! I always thought everyone knew that this was a volatile and violent relationship on both sides.

@iem0128 nice homophobic post there - well done you 🙄 reported

Also is it "well known" that women "use weapons on men"?? Do you have statistics or anything to back that up, I've literally never heard that.

doolallylala · 02/02/2020 09:26

@GlummyMcGlummerson where is the video of him hitting her?

His case is claiming she fabricated the marks. Obviously he would say this if lying but why did the police who were called to the altercation say there wasn't any marks on her face?

Shosha1 · 02/02/2020 09:27

I dont know the facts of this case, as none of us do. We are not privy to all the information. I am bit a fan if either if them

BUT the abuse if men by women is swept under the carpet even more than the abuse of women by men.

Yes, it is less common. But it does happen.

Maybe we should be doing more to make people aware if both abuses instead of fighting amongst ourselves.

And this comes from a women who spent 6 years in a emotional, physical and psychological marriage before I got out.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 02/02/2020 09:34

@doolallylala I meant photos of bruises - the video of him being completely terrifying and abusive is here last time this was posted people fell over themselves to blame her and say she was provoking him.

His case is claiming she fabricated the marks.

Of course it is. They always say that / wether you're a millionaire in Hollywood or Steve from the estate who's mad his football team lost. Women are hysterical liars. She obviously made these bruises herself

I'll say what I said last time this subject came up - some people will only believe he's a violent man if he beat her up on the ted carpet - and even then many would excuse the behaviour- because yes, the fancy him/love Jack Sparrow/hate women/are exceptionally dim. Even on MN - again in the last thread someone genuinely said "if he chucked a phone at her it's her own fault she got but she should have ducked" and several said she "looked too sad" on her way to court to be a real victim (I'm assuming they think real victims smile when they go to their divorce trials).

People don't like the truth about what men are like and can be extremely hostile when you raise Male violence. Understandably it's tough to process that level of hate when you've been conditioned to think men are amazing and faultless

Amber Heard and Depp audio
Amber Heard and Depp audio
PositiveVibez · 02/02/2020 09:40

I think the OP is onto something in that as I very much doubt those who called for the cancelling of Depp are at all the same voices calling for the cancelling of Heard

My god this is a fucking weird thread.

And can people PLEASE grow up and not use the word cancelling when talking about people. It absolutely pathetic.