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To feel "past it" at 37

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HatRack · 01/02/2020 18:27

I've got three kids and recently got engaged. But I feel I'm approaching the summit of "past it". I'm 'plump', a little overweight from xmas indulgence.

I try to dress nice, wear make up, moisturize, wear factor 50 every day, constantly diet.

Today my fiancee (same age as me) and I went into town at 3pm for a meal. It was bouncing. Full of people wearing skimpy outfits. Thin people. With groomed hair.

I felt embarrassed. Shameful. I was sad that I couldn't be better looking. I used to be. I try so hard. I feel like I'm not a good catch for my finance. I want to be someone he is proud to have on his arm, but I feel like a 2nd class version of who I used to be. I'm now "the fat girl". I fast 18 hours per day, and I'm still the fat girl. Can I even call myself a 'girl' at 37.

AIBU? Does anyone else my age, feel the same as me?

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MarshaBradyo · 01/02/2020 20:17

Op you’re not a girl but you are not ‘past it’ or old.

Are you in the healthy weight range?

You don’t have to measure yourself against everyone else in the room, especially twenty somethings.

Yippee you have a cracking figure.

HatRack · 01/02/2020 20:17

Wetherspoons mainly attracts students or old men so I'm not surprised you felt out of place!*

Christ. It's affordable and an old haunt of mine. Guess I'm too fucking elderly to go there now I'm not an undergrad.

I'm loling at the "wetherspoons would depress anyone" comment.

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Babdoc · 01/02/2020 20:19

OP, your fiancé presumably fell in love with you as you are now. He didn’t choose some skinny perfect teenager, he chose you.
Love is not so shallow that it is conditional upon maintaining an immaculate appearance. Couples who genuinely love each other, get a kick out of each other’s company, they happily groan at each other’s old jokes they’ve heard before, they enjoy growing old together - they don’t sit counting their partner’s wrinkles, grey hairs or new rolls of fat and deciding when to dump them!
You seem to be a) very insecure and b) obsessed with your appearance, as if it’s the only thing you have to keep your fiancé attached to you.
Please stop fretting at the mirror and start looking outwards - think about other people and how you can help them, or try new activities, visit new places, engage in interesting conversations, learn a new skill.
Remember that even the ugliest person on Earth is loved and valued by God just as much as the most gorgeous beauty queen - what matters is having a loving soul, not a pretty face.

DontCallUp · 01/02/2020 20:20

Look, you got engaged after 7 months together so he must really like you!

YouBringLightInToADarkPlace · 01/02/2020 20:21

Seriously OP this is not a healthy or normal attitude. You sound absolutely heartbroken and really really out of touch with yourself. I hope against hope that you are not passing this incredibly unhappy and unhealthy idea onto your children. If you feel uncomfortable then go to your doctor for another alternative way of losing weight, but please stop putting this pressure on yourself, your family and other women. We don't all feel this way.

yeraballoon · 01/02/2020 20:21

You sound ridiculously vain.

Get a grip.

HerculesJohn · 01/02/2020 20:22

Hercules only it didn't, did it? Feminism has fucking failed.

Your irony-o-meter has too, it seems.

I've been fat and thin and I'm now medium, with a gym bunny husband who fancies me partly because of my big arse, and partly because I make him laugh, I match him argument for argument when we disagree, I share his love for some things, I baffle him with my love of things he can't stand, and because life is just better when we're together.

'Keeping' a man isn't about how much you weigh, ffs - ask Jennifer Aniston, or Beyonce (who, you might note, was a lot thinner than she is now when Jay Z did his alleged philandering). Beauty really is a lot more than just your dress size. I bet your OH would be horrified if he thought you thought he was constantly on the lookout for someone thinner.

And yippee you are a hot tamale.

HatRack · 01/02/2020 20:24

Why? Is he an outrageous flirt?

No. But doesn't society tell men to judge women on their looks? He watches porn, and I sure as hell don't look like that.

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LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 01/02/2020 20:25
Flowers

I'm older than you and yeah lve got a few laughter lines and there's more of me to grab hold of than there used to be but l am absolutely in my fucking prime and l'm proud of it. I wouldn't be young again if you paid me.

chocolateteapot20 · 01/02/2020 20:25

Were you the class or college “stunna” or something, laughing at the girls (and the boys) in the non-trendy outfits who (in your opinion) didn't know how to dress? Has maturity suddenly brought it home to you that there's more to life than how you look and that you're no longer that teenager? Most of us don't realise how pretty/handsome we were at 18, it's only when you look back. And as you get older, your body changes. As does your skin, and your hair, and everything else, including, often, the way you see the world.

On the fasting thing – you say you're doing a PhD; it's not health or nutrition related, is it? Some studies show that starvation mode is real (and no, I don't mean the reports on Healthline, I've never understood how they always manage to be at the top of any Google search). That approach can't be helping your cognitive functioning much, either. (I say that as someone who had an eating issue for various reasons a couple of years ago. To the extent I was hospitalised. I wouldn't recommend it. I ended up with – thankfully short-lived - kidney problems and it exacerbated my stomach issues. So the prize for being the thinnest can be illness and ultimately premature death, not to put too fine a point on it. And what would your kids do then, bluntly?)

OP you’ll find most posters will tell you to “embrace your curves” or whatever. But it’s not wrong to want to look better. But at your age, it takes time and money, but mostly money. Do you see a cosmetic dermatologist? A personal trainer? Do body treatments? Have your hair done at least six weeks? Have your teeth sorted?

I get the hair and teeth and even the body treatments depending on what they are (a good neck and back massage if you can afford it, for instance, or a nice body scrub at home, made from sugar and oatmeal, say, if funds are limited, plus yoga and Pilates and walking or other exercise, all of which will do even more good), but I'm curious about what circles people move in that a cosmetic dermatologist and a personal trainer are prerequisites??? Or maybe not. Wink

Your DH fancied you when you were skinny, and he fancies you now you're fat? So he's a good actor?

Erm, presumably he fell in love with the person? If your kids turn out not to be paragons of whatever the beauty standard of the day is when they grow up, are you going to disown them?

how can you be attracted to fat AND thin? Is he just attracted to everyone?

Erm, because some people are attracted to a person's “energy” or “aura” or “personality”, not their shell. Nothing stays the same. People get sick and some illnesses affect how you look, for a short or a long time. People get older. People lose their hair, and their teeth, and their skin elasticity. People may be involved in an accident that changes how they look. If this happened to you, or your kids, or your fiance, would any of that affect how you felt about how they looked?

As others have said, where on earth were you in the country that Wetherspoons on a Saturday afternoon was full of meat-market Molls??? I'm from Newcastle, though that's not where I live now, and even in central Newcastle that wouldn't be the case until at least 7pm, and even then they'd be more likely to be down the Bigg Market or along the Quayside....

The media does have a lot to answer for. But standards of beauty as portrayed by the media change all the time anyway and are different from country to country. In the UK we're taught to value tans and people being ultra-slim, because until recently we didn't have particularly good summers and much of the food we ate was pretty stodgy; so being tanned and slim said a) you were wealthy enough and leisured enough to go on holiday somewhere warm and b) you had enough money to eat fresh fruit and vegetables all the time and not have to rely on potatoes and bread to stay alive.

That wasn't always the case though; in earlier centuries, when the peasants worked the fields all the time, having pale skin was valued as it said you didn't have to work outside with everyone else. And what was fashionable in the 1920s, with buxom girls taping down their breasts to look more boyish, was out of the window completely by the time you get to the 1950s, when (following a period of war and rationing in the west) being curvy was presented as much more appealing.

You say you're “into” politics; well, a lot of it is about how you present yourself too, nobody would have said Margaret Thatcher was a “stunna” but her husband obviously found her attractive and I've encountered many men who found her so too. I don't understand it myself, but there you go. It takes all kinds. And it's the same with male politicians too; Tony Blair was not a conventionally handsome man, and he hasn't aged well, but he was articulate and dressed well.

And while we're on the subject of dressing appropriately for the occasion, Yippee looks fabulous in that outfit she's shared. Wow.

OP, I agree with other posters, it sounds like it's a fundamental self-esteem issue for you, so maybe it will help to work on that and not judge other people by how they look either, but whether they're kind or not. It doesn't sound like you're being very kind to anyone right now, including yourself.

I am sorry that you lost your kids' dad, though, that must have been very, very tough.

yeraballoon · 01/02/2020 20:25

Damn if you aren't young and thin, how can you complete with those who are? It hardly seems worth bothering. I wish I never went out today.

Life isn't a competition.

yippee you look gorgeous

ReallyLilyReally · 01/02/2020 20:27

@HatRack if you truly think he's stupid enough to pick a partner based solely on looks, you should leave. And while you're at it get some help for the massive chip on your shoulder, whether it's a personal trainer or a therapist or both. Your self-loathing is making you very unpleasant.

Greenwingmemories · 01/02/2020 20:27

OP please don't waste your thirties and forties thinking you're not gorgeous as you almost certainly are. I'm in my fifties and look back in amazement at how good I looked in my thirties and forties. I wasted time feeling not good enough. Sounds like your fiancé values you.

So much of it is down to how we're trained to compare ourselves unfavourably to other women. Men don't tend to do this. If anything they think they're fabulous even when balding and paunchy.

Enjoy your loveliness.

BennytheBall · 01/02/2020 20:29

Why would anyone over 25 go to Wetherspoons? In my town it's known as a complete dive.

veryvery · 01/02/2020 20:30

No. But doesn't society tell men to judge women on their looks? He watches porn, and I sure as hell don't look like that.

But in reality they don't entirely. Otherwise only one aesthetic type would get married. Do you really want to look like a porn actress? Even in that particular industry there is quite a bit of diversity, appearance wise. And if him watching that type of material upsets you, you need to tackle this issue before you are married.

AbsentmindedWoman · 01/02/2020 20:30

How have you got to 37 years old with such a one dimensional understanding of sexual attraction?

Even if you, the individual, are only able to see a very particular body type as 'attractive' - how has it escaped you that people of other shapes and sizes are enthusiastically fucking and being fucked with wild abandon?

HatRack · 01/02/2020 20:30

You sound absolutely heartbroken and really really out of touch with yourself

I feel disgusting tbh :( And I feel exhausted.

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Superfoodie123 · 01/02/2020 20:31

OP really hope you find peace. Beneath these gripes it's likely the deep insecurity that is surfacing is a much deeper issue than simply how you look

LolaLollypop · 01/02/2020 20:31

Christ. It's affordable and an old haunt of mine. Guess I'm too fucking elderly to go there now I'm not an undergrad.

You've just admitted you went into your local Wetherspoons and felt depressed. So go somewhere else!

Maduixa · 01/02/2020 20:35

Congratulations on your engagement!

It seems like the really big issue for you is your weight. You mentioned other things about your looks like how you dress, make up, hair, etc - but it seems like those are well within your control. If we knew what other people are thinking .... well, obv your fiance wants to be married to you, and is not embarrassed to be seen with you. And who knows, there may be some skinny 18 year old with goregeous hair sitting in Wetherspoon's looking at you two and thinking "look how in love that couple are - I want that".

If your weight/size/shape is genuinely making you unhappy - if you're home alone and catch a glimpse of yourself in a mirror and hate how you look - then focus on that. Metabolism does slow down with aging, but there are plenty of slim people over 40, 50, 60. While watching your diet is good, increasing your physical activity may help more.

HatRack · 01/02/2020 20:35

As others have said, where on earth were you in the country that Wetherspoons on a Saturday afternoon was full of meat-market Molls???*

Durham 3pm.

Certainly wasn't expecting it.

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ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs · 01/02/2020 20:36

OP I am 47. When I hit 40 I seemed to suddenly like on a stone a year! I went from a size 12-14 to a 16-18 and I did feel shit. My DH never seemed to mind, but I did.
About a year ago I decided to do something about it. For me, not my DH (who is in great shape and can eat what he wants, annoyingly). Joined Slimming world, started working out again with my dd and lost 4 stone and am now fitter and more toned than I was in my 30s! Size 10 now. It has made me feel better, but DH genuinely couldn't give a shit.
Sometimes I'm a bit rueful that I am not young any more, but that's life, you move on! If you want to lose weight/ get fitter/ feel better, do it for yourself. Fasting seems like a soul destroying thing and doesn't seem to be working for you. Do something that makes you feel good (for me, I love my combat classes!) I have lots of bigger friends who are happy and comfortable (and look great!) bigger, it just wasn't for me

And yipee you look fab!!

TheBigFatMermaid · 01/02/2020 20:38

You've got far bigger issues than being a little overweight!

You are spiteful, and to other women who are trying to help you.
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Fasting 18 hours a day is ridiculous and will only serve to slow your metabolism.

Oh and I'm old, fat, comfortable in my own skin and generally nice to people.

speakout · 01/02/2020 20:38

Seize your life.
Be a size 24 or a size 8. Eat well, keep fit, Think well of yourself. Don't let others judge you. Feel and be beautiful.

I feel good about myself. I am fit I do yoga, visit the gym 4 times a week. I am slim. I have glossy hair. I put myself first. I value myself.

I also happen to be a carer to two close adults with health problems- they live with me. I can't be out of the house for more than 4 hours at a a time as I am needed for care. I am 58 years old. I look forward to the future. I value my life.

HatRack · 01/02/2020 20:39

Why would anyone over 25 go to Wetherspoons? In my town it's known as a complete dive.

Okay, okay. No more Spoons

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