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To not allow a man who did this to meet my children?

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GlummyMcGlummerson · 29/01/2020 19:43

There’s a long backstory but basically my stepdad, who has been my stepdad since I was 6 (I’m now late 30’s) is not someone I like for various reasons - a main one being that he’s a serial cheater and my mum takes him back time and again.

About 20 years ago he had an affair - with his god daughter. His best friend’s daughter who he’d known since she was a baby. They grew up on the same street as us and he knew her all her childhood. He’s was 41, and she was 16. He claims he waited until she was 16 but they were caught 2 months after her 16th birthday and the pattern of his behaviour (sneaking out, late nights at ‘work’) lasted for about six months before that. It caused huge emotional distress to both families at the time, as you can imagine. I’ve kept him at arms length ever since

When my DD was born 7 years ago I decided that I couldn’t trust a person like this with her growing up. They live abroad now anyway so we’d hardly be seeing them. I made it clear to my mum that he would never meet her or any other children I had. It was the hardest thing I’ve ever done hurting her, and she ended up in hospital as a result with a “heart episode” (that’s all she’ll tell me and has never elaborated). But i dug my heels in and stood firm. I didn’t advertise this decision to other family members and no one has ever questioned why he hasn’t met my children.

I recently told my brother about this. He thinks I’m being unfair, OTT and ridiculous, and using DD as a weapon because I don’t like my stepdad. I’ve never doubted my choice before now but his words have really stung and he’s now not talking to me - he knows about all the affairs but very much takes a “none of my business” approach and thinks our stepdad is amazing.

AIBU to completely withhold contact?

OP posts:
margosfloatydress · 30/01/2020 15:05

mummyof littledragon. its why Im lc with dsis. cannot bear to see the potential of history repeating. sd and dm were (havent seen in years) VERY controlling/ manipulative. I think dsis is still controlled mentally by them. her own dh has seperated as he couldnt watch it anymore!! and then add on my bombshell a while ago and her behaviour of sweeping under the carpet......

Mummyoflittledragon · 30/01/2020 15:16

margo
That is so sad. I take it your sister was not abused sexually. But that there is a lot of controlling abusive behaviour.

margosfloatydress · 30/01/2020 15:21

yes there is, but till she sees the light so to speak (shes had it explained!) theres no more I can do really. so I keep my distance. its a shame, shes a lovelly person. a doormat.....because of the stuff etc. but she is a grown up. she has choices.

margosfloatydress · 30/01/2020 15:23

most of the family have gone nc or lc with sd/dm because they arn`t nice poeple, never mind me lol.

I fear dsis is a lost cause. I hope she does wake up one day.

Wereallsquare · 30/01/2020 15:33

Good for you, OP! A woman after my own heart.

To the posters declaring that he is not a paedophile: How do you know what he is capable of? Who knows when he really started having a sexual relationship with the little girl? You certainly do not, and his word is not to be trusted.

OP, I really do recommend going NC with your mother and brother -- they sound really unhealthy at best, and dangerous, at worst. I would never want them having any influence on my children. Make sure that should anything happen to you, God forbid, that they would have no legal access to your children.

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Wereallsquare · 30/01/2020 16:17

@sosaidzarathustra His goddaughter. The one he groomed.

You seem to be missing the point that this man has had a relationship with his goddaughter from birth. We do not know when he started to sexually abuse her. He claims to have "waited until she was 16", but who could trust his word? So yes, things between could have been explicitly and depravedly sexual at any point in her life.

Why are you so keen to defend this man? It is like a pathology with you.

PreseaCombatir · 30/01/2020 20:17

Also a hebephile us someone with, sexual interest in a person in the early stages of adolescence ie 11to 14 ish, so that does not apply either.

If someone has to wait until someone is 16, then their sexual interest quite clearly began when that person was pre 16. Otherwise they wouldn’t have need to wait
Therefore hebephile is the perfect word.
Or even better, nonce

dentydown · 30/01/2020 20:23

Waited til she was 16. Although what he did was legal, it doesn’t sit well with me. It comes across as wrong. Very wrong!

GiveHerHellFromUs · 30/01/2020 20:26

@dentydown only waited until she was 16 to have sex with her but at that age there would've been a big build up to sex

justilou1 · 30/01/2020 20:40

The message that it was okay because he waited until she was sixteen implies that he was nurturing an intimate relationship with her for that explicit purpose. Rather like a vulture circling an animal waiting for it to die. Your stepfather is predatory and there is NO WAY he wasn’t grooming this child (who was obviously vulnerable or would have told him to feck off, and wouldn’t have ended up in the situation she was in later...). The grooming behaviour is definitely paedophilic.

Ravenesque · 30/01/2020 21:06

Crikey with the semantics and the alleged slander of calling a vile human being a paedophile.

Technically creepy SD isn't a paedophile, but given that we use that word to also cover hebephilia and ephebophilia the semantics are more on the side of those saying "paedophile" than those arguing that because she was probably over 12 when he started grooming her, and let's face it the majority of us are sure he groomed her, then he's not a paedophile.

I'd say it's likely that he doesn't get off on pre-pubescents, and oh my doesn't that make him just the best of human beings! Not. As he almost certainly was grooming his goddaughter before she was 16 then he's probably a man with pedophilic tendencies, that is he likes young girls who have just passed puberty.

I don't think the OP thinks he's going to want to have sex with her seven year old daughter, I do think she's right to not want him in hr life because he might just start grooming her when she hits puberty and even if he doesn't he's a vile piece of shit.

Raspberrytruffle · 30/01/2020 21:40

Yanbu! Fuck anyone else or any flying monkeys that are sent to guilt you he sounds a fucking preditor

florababy34 · 30/01/2020 22:42

I'd say it's likely that he doesn't get off on pre-pubescents, and oh my doesn't that make him just the best of human beings!

Literally nobody said that. Nobody has said that. Everyone nitpicking over the terminology has agreed he's a hideous human regardless of the label.

2020vision10 · 30/01/2020 23:39

Some people on here really don't have a clue about grooming and the victim blaming children is absolutely disgraceful.

OP you are absolutely doing the right thing. It's creepy that he would even sleep with a 16yr old at his age but the fact that he's known her since birth and is supposed to be an influential adult in her life is just disgusting and absolutely wrong.

2020vision10 · 30/01/2020 23:43

And he could have been grooming that child from a very young age! Paedophiles have often been known to groom quite young then wait to have full sex when they turn "legal" on some weird gratification that they haven't done anything wrong in their warped minds.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 30/01/2020 23:48

I think @Ravenesque was being sarcastic when she said that, @2020vision10.

ClappyFlappy · 30/01/2020 23:54

YANBU

2020vision10 · 30/01/2020 23:57

My comment wasn't aimed at Raven

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