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AIBU?

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To not allow a man who did this to meet my children?

269 replies

GlummyMcGlummerson · 29/01/2020 19:43

There’s a long backstory but basically my stepdad, who has been my stepdad since I was 6 (I’m now late 30’s) is not someone I like for various reasons - a main one being that he’s a serial cheater and my mum takes him back time and again.

About 20 years ago he had an affair - with his god daughter. His best friend’s daughter who he’d known since she was a baby. They grew up on the same street as us and he knew her all her childhood. He’s was 41, and she was 16. He claims he waited until she was 16 but they were caught 2 months after her 16th birthday and the pattern of his behaviour (sneaking out, late nights at ‘work’) lasted for about six months before that. It caused huge emotional distress to both families at the time, as you can imagine. I’ve kept him at arms length ever since

When my DD was born 7 years ago I decided that I couldn’t trust a person like this with her growing up. They live abroad now anyway so we’d hardly be seeing them. I made it clear to my mum that he would never meet her or any other children I had. It was the hardest thing I’ve ever done hurting her, and she ended up in hospital as a result with a “heart episode” (that’s all she’ll tell me and has never elaborated). But i dug my heels in and stood firm. I didn’t advertise this decision to other family members and no one has ever questioned why he hasn’t met my children.

I recently told my brother about this. He thinks I’m being unfair, OTT and ridiculous, and using DD as a weapon because I don’t like my stepdad. I’ve never doubted my choice before now but his words have really stung and he’s now not talking to me - he knows about all the affairs but very much takes a “none of my business” approach and thinks our stepdad is amazing.

AIBU to completely withhold contact?

OP posts:
Startedoutasfriends · 29/01/2020 20:26

OP, you are absolutely right not to let him have contact with your children .

EnidBlyton · 29/01/2020 20:26

He sounds awful
However your mum deserves some sympathy

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2020 20:28

Must be lovely to be a man and able to ignore sexual abuse. To be able to pretend it's just a little, unimportant facet of an otherwise stand up bloke.

He is what's wrong with the fight for women's rights at the moment.

EnidBlyton · 29/01/2020 20:28

It doesn't make him a paedophile though

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2020 20:29

Does he also think Kobe Bryant is great? Micheal Jackson there was no proof and any sports person, it shouldn't affect their career? If so you can safely ignore his opinion.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 29/01/2020 20:30

@EnidBlyton having any kind of sexual relationship with a child - he said he waited until she was 16 which means he had instigated the relationship before that - makes him a paedophile

SunshineCake · 29/01/2020 20:33

You are your daughters only true protector and no one else has the right to see your child.

Ask your brother how he'd feel if it was his younger sister or his daughter if he'd done it to her. That's if you want to try and make friends with him again.

Jellybeansincognito · 29/01/2020 20:34

I’d be wondering if I wanted my brother around my children too.

aSofaNearYou · 29/01/2020 20:34

Figures that your brother has a son and not a daughter.

He's embodying the kind of male privilege that allows them to not care what a male peer does to women or girls, no matter how abhorrent, because they've never done it to them and never would. He has no empathy, and he's part of the reason things like this can still happen on such a wide scale.

sosaidzarathustra · 29/01/2020 20:35

The problem is you are implying he is a paedophile. There is nothing illegal about having a relationship with a non-related 16 year old however immoral it may seem to be, but extrapolating that to say his 7 year old granddaughter is also a target is unreasonable.

cheesemongery · 29/01/2020 20:40

You have made absolutely the right choice. Whilst my now ex-stepdad was not a paedophile or anything monstrous he was mentally abusive whilst growing up with him (from age 4) he has continued this towards me, even though I am mid 40's and it took a lot to take a stand and say actually, I will not take your shit anymore. He then went on to transfer this to my 22 year old son. I will NOT allow him to do it to my 11 year old daughter.

YANBU x100 and sending you the strength to KNOW you are doing the right thing.

Thelnebriati · 29/01/2020 20:41

Don't trust people who do it, people who enable it or people who excuse it.

Greenwingmemories · 29/01/2020 20:41

I completely agree with you OP. Not really because I think he'd abuse your daughter but because of his attitudes in general towards girls and women. I came across some very creepy and predatory guys as a young woman and invariably it didn't just restrict itself to sexual inappropriateness but just a general poor attitude and lack of respect towards women. I wouldn't want to expose my daughter to those kind of attitudes.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 29/01/2020 20:42

@sosaidzarathustra she's not his granddaughter. And I don't think it's unreasonable for me to assume a man who watched a baby grow into a teenager then groom her would target another child close to him - even if the risk is 1% of danger to my child it's 1% too much. The only reason I'd let him into her life would be for the sake of my mum. But my DD comes first

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Angiemum24 · 29/01/2020 20:42

Your job as a mum is to protect your child and make then independant so the can face the wide world when they are adults.

You are protecting your child from a pedophile.

cheesemongery · 29/01/2020 20:42

With regard to my last post - remove paedophile and you still have a very nasty untrustworthy man to deal with - not for my kids.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 29/01/2020 20:42

Your reasons are good
And I am sorry your family are minimising this

PlanDeRaccordement · 29/01/2020 20:44

Your brother is in complete denial. Your mum is complicit.
Your stepdad groomed a child and did a Lolita with her. Disgusting. And probably criminally prosecutable as rape/sex abuse if things were going on before age of consent as you suspect.
You are right to protect your DD. Don’t doubt yourself.

GabsAlot · 29/01/2020 20:45

Disgutung and no hes not her gp so could easily target her

has your mum ever met yo0ur dc?

Bluerussian · 29/01/2020 20:47

I'm with the op.

NaviSprite · 29/01/2020 20:47

I think the implication of his being a paedophile was made when he stated “I waited until she was 16”. Reading that made my blood run cold because that’s what the man who abused my cousin said, he started grooming her when she was 12...

YANBU OP, most definitely not, your Mum is aware of his behaviour and chose to stick with him, that was her decision, in your position I’d say she is okay to meet them, but under no circumstances is she to bring the Step Dad along.

Absolutepowercorrupts · 29/01/2020 20:47

@sosaidzarathustra
Woody Allen, ring any bells in your empty head?
If the step father waited until she was 16, his interest started a lot earlier. Any male adult that's had a relationship with a child from birth and then has a sexual relationship with her is a paedophile.
You're absolutely right OP to keep him away from your daughter. Stick to your decision and ignore your brother, he's an apologist and should be ignored

justilou1 · 29/01/2020 20:48

Eeeew! Shades of Woody Allen!!! He wouldn’t come near my kids either!!!

GlummyMcGlummerson · 29/01/2020 20:50

@GabsAlot yes she has - but only maybe Half a dozen times and has never been alone with them. I wouldn’t trust her for a second because of her attitude to the affair - the 16yo shouldn’t have been such “a tart” apparently (we’ve had many a fall out about this). Considering going NC for various reasons

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Nomorelaundry · 29/01/2020 20:50

Don't trust your mother either. She never safeguarded you she won't do it to your child.

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