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AIBU re: lift giving: will she turn up on Friday or not?

999 replies

Whiskeychaser · 23/01/2020 12:51

Second thread.

Thanks for all the support.

Dreading them coming out od school because I can see my dd getting it in the ear from them, and I'm really feeling for her.

Link to first thread to follow in a minute (when I figure it out).

OP posts:
Sickandscared · 23/01/2020 14:06

I think you have handled this remarkably well op.

You would be well within your rights to just cut off all communication and favours from now on. If you think you will be content with that then I think you should choose this option.

I think we are quite similar (I agree with all of your policies about not being petty etc) but I don't think this makes you a pushover. You are setting a great example to your daughter to have your own standards and not sink to someone else's poor behaviour. Being kind and compassionate is not a weakness.

In your shoes now I would probably make one last move - I'd message that things have become very awkward and we clearly need to talk. I would be very clear on what I wanted to say during that conversation -

I am surprised at your response to my initial request and what has happened since then. I would like you to explain to me. (And do listen here - it is abundantly obvious you are in the right but maybe she just cannot cope with life at the moment and is not thinking clearly).

I feel hurt and taken for granted. I have done you favours for two years and was happy to do them but now I feel you don't even appreciate the lifts. I have never asked you for petrol money.

I WAS happy to continue with the arrangement on the basis your Dd came to me. A fifteen minute walk is not unreasonable particularly as I've been adding X amount of my time to collect her up to now. You took your Dd to the club last week and did not offer to take mine to give me a break.

I have found the subsequent involving of my daughter incredibly distasteful. If this isn't continues I will have to contact the school as i consider it bullying.

I wish it hadn't come to this but I don't see a way forward now. As I said at the beginning I feel hugely under appreciates and taken for granted. If our lift arrangement was coming to as end I would have expected that to be with a "thanks for all you've done so far..." expression. I assume it goes without saying that you are making other plans to have your dog minded?

PurpleTinsel · 23/01/2020 14:10

Shock some people just don’t know when to stop do they?

You’d think that she was the one doing you a favour the way she’s carrying on!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/01/2020 14:10

OP you have to stop feeding this drama. Just draw a line under it
The relationship is over

Exactly

As a PP said on the first thread, just tell her the arrangement isn't working for anyone any more so it's being ended

AryaStarkWolf · 23/01/2020 14:11

How is anyone that shortsighted??

My guess is she was sure she would be able to bully you into backing down.

I also think by her last message, that she wanted to draw a line under it but still not admit she was the one at fault, I think there's a good chance that because of that last message she may turn up on Friday thinking that her last message was calling a truce without her admitting she was wrong and "giving in to you for the sake of peace" type thing, a way for her to save face and still get the lift.............. what would you do then? (or she might just send her DD down which would make it much more awkward for you to say no

chocolateandpinkgin · 23/01/2020 14:11

She is literally a CF of the highest order. You've done it for TWO YEARS without asking anything in return. You've now asked her to do one small thing to make life a bit easier for you - walk 7 whole minutes. She's acting like you're asking her to run a fucking marathon. She's clearly got it in her head that because she works and you don't, her time is worth more than yours and she's entitled to sit on her arse while you run round after her. I wouldn't want to be friends with someone like that.

I honestly wouldn't engage with her any more, she's that much of a CF she's never going to see it from your point of view. You've given her plenty of options, if she wants to be passive aggressive and play the victim, let her crack on.

itwaseverthus · 23/01/2020 14:11

Agree re the above, just completely ignore her now. No more texts, no more chats. That ship has sailed.

NeckPainChairSearch · 23/01/2020 14:12

Bloody hell. I've just caught up with all this. OP, I admire how you've dealt with this, I really do. No doubt it's causing you a fair bit of stress and upset, which is so bloody unfair.

Shoxfordian · 23/01/2020 14:12

Wow she's so out of line op

Whiskeychaser · 23/01/2020 14:18

Oh, btw, although I've heard of Mexican house thief, I've not read it, can anyone link to it as it might take my mind off my own problems for a bit, sounds like it's worse than my situation Shock.

I've got a bloody migraine coming on from the stress of it all, so I've taken some migraleve and I'm hoping reading about someone's else's issues puts it into perspective for me.

Also for the poster that asked, she has done me favors too in the past, and she's really not all bad. She has her good and bad points, like all of us, me included.

I've not thought about it before but if I had to put a number to it I'd say the 'favours' have been split 75/25 or 80/20 over the years I've known her with me doing the 75 or 80, but I was always happy with that as that's not how I measure friendship.

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cstaff · 23/01/2020 14:18

I think tomorrow as a pp said it might be no harm for you and your dd to leave early and go for tea or whatever you fancy just to avoid the two of them and to get a clear message across that your arrangements are off.

Plannergirl9 · 23/01/2020 14:18

She is definitely cutting of her nose to spite her face.

Whiskeychaser · 23/01/2020 14:19

I know that it means I sometimes get taken advantage of, but I'd rather that than change who I am, iykwim.

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Whiskeychaser · 23/01/2020 14:21

I wouldn't be, ASundayWellSpent, I'm pretty sure I'd struggle if I had to do this face to face, which is why I'm dreading tomorrow.

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SwansGlide · 23/01/2020 14:21

I think you're well past the point where you should care about making excuses for not looking after her dog, or going out early on purpose etc so you can avoid her DD arriving etc. She has been very (CF) direct with you, so you should feel free to respond equally directly.

BruceAndNosh · 23/01/2020 14:21

WORKZILLA!

AnathemaPulsifer · 23/01/2020 14:23

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/1735637-Have-you-ever-encountered-anyone-this-cheeky

WeAreEternal Sat 20-Apr-13 14:52:07 is Mexican House Thief

WheresMyChocolate · 23/01/2020 14:25

You do realise that tomorrow evening children all over the country and beyond will be going hungry because of this?

"Mummy, I'm hungry, when's dinner?
"Shush, I'm waiting for Whiskeychaser to update!"

Grin
Whiskeychaser · 23/01/2020 14:28

If I catch my migraine early enough I can head it off at the pass so to speak (pink migraleve and relaxing usually do the trick, if early enough), so I may disappear for a bit as I think I need to forget about it all for a few hours!

I'll be back later though Smile and will reply properly then.

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purpledingyoverboard · 23/01/2020 14:28

I can't believe the cheek of this woman!

LemonBreeland · 23/01/2020 14:31

"Mummy, I'm hungry, when's dinner?
"Shush, I'm waiting for Whiskeychaser to update!"

Definitely this :)

Drum2018 · 23/01/2020 14:34

I know that it means I sometimes get taken advantage of, but I'd rather that than change who I am, iykwim

You should read 'The Life Changing Magic of not giving a Fuck'. It will help you to say no and not let people take advantage of your good nature. You don't need to change who you are to stop allowing CFs to take advantage. You just need to learn to value yourself and your family unit's time more than other people and their time.

HillAreas · 23/01/2020 14:34

I'm pretty sure I'd struggle if I had to do this face to face, which is why I'm dreading tomorrow.
You’ve got several thousand outraged Mumsnetters in your corner - just imagine we are all physically standing beside you 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

MumW · 23/01/2020 14:35

I've been out this morning so have only just caught up. When I saw this

she doesn't feel she should have to walk after working all day.

My suggested reponse would've been "and I don't feel I should have to make myself ill getting stressed to do YOU a FAVOUR when there was an easy and simple solution"

but things have moved way on since then...

I do feel for your DD now that CF has involved her.
I'd be tempted to tell my DD to tell the other girl "oh FFS, my mum has been doing you and your Mum a huge favour for over 2 years. If you want to continue with the club, just walk around the corner to ours for 6pm"

CarolinaPink · 23/01/2020 14:35

Have just read Mexican House Thief.

Shock
AryaStarkWolf · 23/01/2020 14:39

@CarolinaPink Do you have a link for it, I can't find it