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AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

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Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
Crazyoldmaurice · 23/01/2020 12:15

Also I think the best reply might in this case be a link to this thread, she needs to gain a perspective other than her own!

Drum2018 · 23/01/2020 12:16

I also feel a bit sorry for the dd (& mine), & I'm not quite sure what to do if she turns up tomorrow, especially if her mum is with her, as I'm done now!

Doubt she will. Though she might be fucking stupid enough to Hmm Leave at 5.50pm instead. And keep your phone on silent.

MzHz · 23/01/2020 12:17

IF she turns up in time, you can tell her that you’ll take her dd and bring her back, and her dd will see her at home, but you won’t be taking her anywhere ever again.

The walk will do her good and perhaps a bit of fresh air will show her what a monumental arse she is being and give her time to work out how she’s going to make her life work when it’s not facilitated by others. Oh and the dog sitting is 100% off.

Jeezoh · 23/01/2020 12:17

“I think as I’m the one doing you a favour, you’ll find that I’m right but you seem unable to see this. I think it’s best you find someone else to look after your dog, I agreed to do that at a time when I presumed you valued our friendship but it now feels the friendship is dependent on what I can do for you”

Whiskeychaser · 23/01/2020 12:18

My oh said:
"it doesn't actually matter if you sit on your arse all day, every day, it still doesn't make her time more important than yours, especially when you're doing her a fucking favour!"

I'm now thinking he's right.

OP posts:
Crazyoldmaurice · 23/01/2020 12:18

"I think as I’m the one doing you a favour, you’ll find that I’m right but you seem unable to see this. I think it’s best you find someone else to look after your dog, I agreed to do that at a time when I presumed you valued our friendship but it now feels the friendship is dependent on what I can do for you”

PERFECTION

AryaStarkWolf · 23/01/2020 12:19

Imo you need to tell her how to join mn and look at this thread...

This and I also agree with who ever said that she thinks that because she WORKS that you some how owe her lifts because you don't ........... hahahaha no

TwoHeadedYellowBelliedHoleDig · 23/01/2020 12:19

I won't argue, but I can see that we're not going to agree whose (sic) right in this situation

No. She's wrong. So she can just sit there in her wrongness and keep being wrong.

Come back in March when she remembers about the dog Grin

TeeBee · 23/01/2020 12:20

To avoid you having to stew over whether she's going to turn up, I'd reply and make things clear.

'YOU are XX's mother, I AM NOT.
YOU alone are responsible for facilitating her attendance at clubs, I AM NOT.
YOU are responsible for getting her safely and timely to places tat she needs to be, I AM NOT.
YOU are responsible for your own dog that you choose to have, I AM NOT
YOU are a cheeky fucker, I AM NOT.
YOU may be hoping to continue this friendship so you can continue to take advantage of my kindness, I AM NOT.'

MzHz · 23/01/2020 12:21

I like the sound of your dh @Whiskeychaser! He’s a goodun!

cstaff · 23/01/2020 12:22

I love @teebee's response. If you have the nerve I would go with that. That will certainly get your point across and leave no doubt as to where you all stand Grin

Confuddledtown · 23/01/2020 12:24

You're husband is right

Also, the thread is about to fill up if you want to start another one

Confuddledtown · 23/01/2020 12:25

*your 🙈

mbosnz · 23/01/2020 12:25

Ooooh, that is nice teebee, I really like that.

I think this is the most outsized case of 'cut your cheeky nose off to spit your cheekyfucker face' that I've ever seen. Silly bloody mare.

Your OH is indeed, categorically right.

AriadnesFilament · 23/01/2020 12:25

OP your OH is 100% right

Ihatesundays · 23/01/2020 12:26

7 minutes.
DD goes to an activity every week, it’s a 10 minute walk. I have a car, but I walk it as it’s only fucking 10 minutes (well 40 for me once I’ve been back and forward). It’s a short walk, if you’re a healthy adult it shouldn’t be an issue.
She’s bone idle ‘doesn’t feel like walking’ get a car or a taxi then.
You ‘not feeling like driving to theirs’ is as valid.
Amazing....

BlackCatSleeping · 23/01/2020 12:26

You need to make a new thread @Whiskeychaser

MamaWeGotThis · 23/01/2020 12:27

Your husband sounds great, I hope she doesn't make it too awkward tomorrow

mummykauli7 · 23/01/2020 12:28

Love it @teebee 🤣🤣

TheMaddHugger · 23/01/2020 12:30

bye bye thread

AIBU with regard to giving lifts...
fedup21 · 23/01/2020 12:31

“I think as I’m the one doing you a favour, you’ll find that I’m right but you seem unable to see this. I think it’s best you find someone else to look after your dog

Please send this. I’m just gobsmacked she can think she is Anyway right in all this?!

wineandroses1 · 23/01/2020 12:31

Send one last text that you can't dog-sit for her (why would you even consider it now??? She won't be in the least grateful). Disengage entirely now Op. Leave the house early on Friday.

You don't need this in your life and your DD definitely doesn't.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 23/01/2020 12:32

Exactly, word for word what @Crazyoldmaurice has suggested. Send that and then block her phone. She has booked a taxi to Crazy Town and is expecting you to pay for it! Grin

cologne4711 · 23/01/2020 12:32

Some people really can't see the wood for the trees can they?

2 years of favours.

You need her to get off her bottom and walk her dd over for about 3 weeks.

After that, her dd can walk by herself as it will be daylight.

You drop her dd off afterwards.

She really has no idea how lucky she is does she?

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