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AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

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Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
Noshowlomo · 23/01/2020 11:01

So many good responses here I won’t add one but I really like @WhatchaMaCalllit response.
Cheeky CF she is. Maybe just block and ignore... that’ll really piss her off!

Myyearmytime · 23/01/2020 11:03

I don't think the dd friendship is healthy one .
And your dd would be better going alone .
You are getting nothing out of friendship with the mother
So i think this would be a great ending to both freind ships .

ContessaferJones · 23/01/2020 11:04

What has happened OP?

mbosnz · 23/01/2020 11:04

This emotional blackmail and abuse of your daughter via her daughter and mother is abominable.

I'm sorry, at this point, I'd be furious on my daughter's behalf, and also helping her find her anger at being abused like this.

I'd be texting the mother, and saying, 'this is ridiculous. This is beyond a joke. I'm putting an end to this storm in a d-cup right now. Any and all offers of lifts for you and your daughter are now firmly withdrawn. Make your own way there, or find some other muggins, or don't go, these are now your options, as a result of your behaviour. Clearly, dog sitting is also now off the cards. Do not approach myself or my daughter about this again. If I find your daughter is harassing my daughter about this in the school, I will be involving the School Head. Henceforth, your numbers are now blocked from my phone and my daughters phone.'

Or ring her and say that.

At the point people start emotionally blackmailing, and verbally badgering my daughter, that's when the red mist descends with me.

fedup21 · 23/01/2020 11:11

Things have really kicked off

How? What’s happened?

Crazyoldmaurice · 23/01/2020 11:11

Let us know what has happened Op. Hope you are ok, she sounds awful.

Jimmers · 23/01/2020 11:12

Agree with others - a strongly worded text to end this is needed. And definitely withdraw from the woman completely.

AgeOld · 23/01/2020 11:12

Ah god.
Just say you're no longer taking the child to the club. She's emotionally blackmailing your daughter and according to you, is an ungrateful, dog dumping, parcel offloading brat of a mother.
Just block her for. Drama drama. Over nothing.

FraglesRock · 23/01/2020 11:14

If things have kicked off then I think it's time to call this 'friendship' done and recouping have been a great friend whilst she has been a user. And it's good to stand up and say enough, it's good to show your daughter what to do if a friendship isn't real.

"Dcf, I have been really saddened by the events of this week, after years of taking your daughter to a club, years of delivering parcels, years of shopping trips. I have asked for one small thing to make my life easier and you won't do it. You've involved the children in the upset and I find this to be the end of our friendship and my favours to you.
So no more clubs, parcels, shopping or dog sitting are available. Please do not contact me again. "

MaggieFS · 23/01/2020 11:15

OP, are you ok?

hellsbellsmelons · 23/01/2020 11:17

How the hell is that even possible?
YOU are doing THEM a favour. In fact, have done them LOADS of favours over the years.
They should be grateful and appreciative.
I wouldn't engage at all any more OP.
She is seriously taking the fucking piss now!

Whiskeychaser · 23/01/2020 11:22

I simply sent a text simply reitirating what I'd said last week (just to remind you of what I said last week: this isnt working for me. I'm happy to take her and bring her home, but please be at mine on Friday for anytime between 5pm and 6pm).

She replied a while later saying that I'm preventing her dd from going then as she can't walk in the dark, she cant afford a cab every week and when she comes too, she doesn't feel she should have to walk after working all day.

OP posts:
Nomorelaundry · 23/01/2020 11:25

That's not kicking off.
That's the whole situation resolved.
Done and dusted. Do not engage. Do not reply.

MNersAreBatshit · 23/01/2020 11:26

How gloriously entitled.

I maintain that this is the best possible outcome. CF's daughter isn't someone you'd want in your DD's life.

ContessaferJones · 23/01/2020 11:26

"I understand you're disappointed. However, my need to prioritise my own health overrides your wish to be driven. I hope that this makes sense. Kind regards, Whiskey".

Saddler · 23/01/2020 11:27

She's set out her position that's fine, done and dusted.

mummykauli7 · 23/01/2020 11:28

Response: OK bye

Nanasueathome · 23/01/2020 11:28

I wouldn’t even reply to that text

Crazyoldmaurice · 23/01/2020 11:29

Her choosing not to walk for 7 mins of an evening is her choice then! She is preventing her daughter from going due to pure laziness. You don't feel like you should have to rush around like a headless chicken on a Friday after a long week and a long day of errands each week when you yourself physically are not in the best of health

Your decision not to pick her up outside her front door is due to that favour not working for you anymore.

She doesnt feel like she should have to walk after working all week. You dont feel like you should have to spend each and every friday evening rushing around which you have done for the past 2 years.

TwoHeadedYellowBelliedHoleDig · 23/01/2020 11:30

"I'm sorry you feel that way. As I said, I can give you a lift back, as well as a lift there if you and/or DD are at mine by 6pm"

It's not your faulty she's a cheeky, lazy fucker who would rather her DD not go to the club at all than walk for 5 minutes.

Binglebong · 23/01/2020 11:31

Why is she working? Is it for your benefit, in which case she may have a small point. No? It's for her and her daughter? Then she can bugger off with that argument!

Livpool · 23/01/2020 11:32

Wow she is CF

How is it in any way your responsibility that her daughter does or doesn't attend a club?! It's not so you can't possibly be preventing her.

Ignore

Crazyoldmaurice · 23/01/2020 11:32

She needs to sit down and explain to her daughter that she can no longer go to the club because she cannot be arsed to walk her to your house, not rope you and your dd into it.

fedup21 · 23/01/2020 11:32

It’s not kicked off at all-it’s resolved.

Reply, ‘Ok, I’m sorry you feel that way. I think it’s best if you find someone else to dog-sit in March as well.’

AriadnesFilament · 23/01/2020 11:33

She’s trying to manipulate you. Don’t let her.

She’s made a decision. She’s trying to make you think that your actions have somehow lead to a specific outcome. They haven’t. She has made a decision and is telling you about it in emotive terms to get you to change your mind so that she gets what she wants. She’s manipulating you. Don’t fall for it.

Stop texting her. Stop giving her the time to craft ways to play on your nature with her replies.

You’ve stated your position. It is reasonable. What she chooses to do about that is on her.

She isn’t your friend.