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He’s 4 weeks old and I hate my life

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clairindespair · 14/01/2020 09:12

Hi I’m gonna get so much shit for this but I absolutely hate my life after having my son. Birth wasn’t pleasant resulting in emergency c section and I am in a financial crisis after student loan hasn’t been paid leaving me with 70p as formula just siphons my money (unable to BF)

He screams for food and doesn’t do anything else. Just screams. Cluster feeds all through the early hours of the morning. I’m a single mum and have no one, I’ve had 4 hours sleep in 5 days and I am struggling to keep my eyes open. My house is a mess cos I have no energy or time to clean it. I am stuck on a third floor with no lift and feel so isolated as I can’t even find the energy to take his pram down the stairs in 3 bits then reassemble it. He doesn’t smile or coo or make any noise except a horrific cry and the occasional grunt. Just cries and looks blank most of the time. I’m starting to hate him. I want my old life back. I’m off uni till May and I want to go back now. I’m so fed up. I hate my life.

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LittlePigLetMeIn · 14/01/2020 09:43

If you're in South Manchester I'd love to go for a walk and a chat x

AnneLovesGilbert · 14/01/2020 09:43

You’re not evil, you’ve just had major surgery, brought a whole new person into the world, haven’t slept in days, are worried about money, your hormones are all over the shop, disappointed about feeding, feeling the weight of responsibility that arrives on your shoulders with a first baby and you’re freaking out. Who wouldn’t be?!

You’ve taken a really good step booking the doctor. Make a list of what you want to say as it’s easy to forget things on the spot. Be brutally honest and don’t minimise or sugar coat how hard things are. Plan your journey there step by step in your head so you know how long you’ll need and remember everything. My memory was shot to shit for months so I’d go through everything I had to do in order before having to go anywhere and it really helped.

clairindespair · 14/01/2020 09:44

I’m in the Tameside area x

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GameSetMatch · 14/01/2020 09:45

Head butting is a sign of hunger, is he crying and head butting because he is hungry? It’s so hard the first 12 weeks, it will get easier honestly I know it feels awful but just give it time. Have you got a friend who could come for a coffee and chat! Or just go for a walk getting out the house will make you feel loads better. X

Orangeblossom78 · 14/01/2020 09:45

It is possible to start a claim for UC online I think so you could do that straightaway OP

5zeds · 14/01/2020 09:45

The university welfare team should be able to provide support, someone to talk to, and handholding through getting your finances organised. There are probably many students with younger children who could help. New babies cry, sleep, and poop. They soon become noisier, stinkier and sleep longer, but also smile, gurgle, giggle, and interact. It’s hard work but you can do it. You do need to eat and rest though so ask for help.

sleepismysuperpower1 · 14/01/2020 09:45

OP its great that you have managed to get a GP appointment. could you try contacting the charity gingerbread's helpline? they should be able to offer advice on services, what you are entitled to etc. do ask for a referral to the food bank, as they aren't just for those on benefits. try signing up for baby clubs such as Emma's diary (who will send you freebies, don't give your phone number as you will get spam calls) and sign up to claim the lidl baby box (you will get free nappies, wipes and bed that baby will fit in until around 3 months old). all the best x

Orangeblossom78 · 14/01/2020 09:45

And they do advance payments as well.

SinkGirl · 14/01/2020 09:46

Hugs to you OP.

Google your health visitors office number or ask at your GP surgery later. Call them and tell them you’re desperately in need of support and don’t feel you can talk to your current HV. They likely have HVs who have more experience with PND who will be more than happy to see you. They know what’s available where you are and can help you.

You will absolutely be able to access a food bank. Ask the GP and / or HV.

Your university will have hardship grants available which don’t have to be repaid - often there’s a bit of extra loan you can take and then a grant. I got one every year I was at uni and I didn’t have a baby. Call student support at your uni this morning to ask for help.

Look up your local Homestart office - often there’s a waiting list but if you tell them how bad things are I’m sure they can find someone to come and help you.

Hang in there - this is temporary. Put on a programme or DVD you like, hold your baby, try a white noise app. This will pass.

oatmilk4breakfast · 14/01/2020 09:46

It’s really good you can acknowledge how you’re feeling, you’re not evil. You’re feeling resentful. It’s really hard, and you’ve been dealt a tough hand and you’re struggling. No shame. Your baby should start smiling in about two weeks, maybe 4 depending if they were early or not. They physically can’t do it before then, it’s not a judgement on you. Screaming is all they’ve got to get the things they need. If you can manage to give eye contact and just hold them you’ll start to get some feedback soon I promise. It’s hard when you feel so shit. But keep going. You matter in and of yourself and also you’re so important to your baby. Stay strong and don’t stop asking for all the help you can get. Some people will be dismissive and behave like dicks because you’re young and single - that’s their problem. You matter.

Grumbley · 14/01/2020 09:47

Oh OP, I could have written this when my DS was a few weeks old, the trauma emotionally and physically of birth and then having this baby who relies on you fully and wholly no matter how much you feel is prepared is really, really hard; especially when you don't have much support. I am really glad you are going to see the GP, a really positive step and I hope that they can refer you for some help. Also if baby is screaming all of the time, it could be that they have tongue tie or reflux? I know babies do cry a lot when newborn and feeding often isn't unusual, but they also tend to sleep a lot, and it could be that finding if something is the matter (both of which are easily enough remedied so not to worry about) might really help. Flowers

oatmilk4breakfast · 14/01/2020 09:47

Also do you have the Baby Buddy app? It’s awesome and you can download for free / helps loads

7Worfs · 14/01/2020 09:47

He isn’t headbutting you, his neck is weak - always support his neck when holding or lifting him. Smile
Post-EMCS is tricky, but try different cuddling positions to find a good one. Do skin to skin and try and relax, forget about housework.

LaurieMarlow · 14/01/2020 09:49

Head butting is a hunger cue isn’t it?

I remember not being able to process how often my newborns wanted food. It was mental.

DileenODoubts · 14/01/2020 09:49

OP I’ve felt like you describe, I hated my life in those first few months and was in such a pit of despair and had no money. Felt like I’d make a mistake ruined my life and the life of this baby who I didn’t particularly feel anything but panic and dread at the thought of interacting with. I promise it gets easier inch but slow inch.

Good on you for reaching out, this is the hardest part and you’re getting through it, it will get better though it seems hopeless, I promise it will.
Tell the doctor everything, don’t let them dismiss you, as a young mum I felt intimidated by my hv and gp. Tell them you KNOW this isn’t right and you need help, be difficult if need be.

You’ll be ok, you’re in the toughest situation now but you’re making good decisions in reaching out.

I know getting out is horrible but aim for at least 10 mins, it will make today marginally better than yesterday and you can build on that.

So much love and strength to you OP

clairindespair · 14/01/2020 09:50

I genuinely just think he hates me.

Student finance are saying they’ve paid me but I genuinely haven’t recieved it. They’re telling me to send bank statements in which takes 30 days to review it. I cannot afford a stamp.

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AnuvvaMuvva · 14/01/2020 09:51

I found it! I remember this made a huge difference to me. My son was crying non stop until I read this and realised he was cold. As soon as I put an extra blanket on him he looked at me like, "FINALLY!" and immediately stopped crying.

DIFFERENT TYPES OF CRY From Secrets of the Baby Whisperer

Tired or overtired

Listen: Starts as cranky, irregular-frequency fussing but if not stopped quickly escalates to an overtired cry: first 3 short wails followed by a hard cry, then 2 short breaths and a longer, even louder cry. Usually they cry and cry and if left alone will fall asleep.

Observe:

Blinks, yawns. If not put to bed, physical signs can include back arching, legs kicking and arms flailing, may grab own ears or cheeks and scratch face (a reflex); if you are holding him, squirms and tries to turn into your body. If he continues to cry his face will become bright red.

Of all the cries the most often misinterpreted for hunger. Therefore pay close attention to when it occurs. It may come after playtime or after someone has been cooing at baby. Squirming is often mistaken for colic.

Overstimulated

Listen: Long hard cry. Similar to overtired.

Observe:

Arms and legs flail; turns head away from light; will turn away from anyone trying to play with him.

Usually comes when baby has had enough playing an adult keeps trying to amuse him.

Needs a change of scene

Listen: Cranky fussing that starts with noises of annoyance rather than outright cries.

Observe:

Turns away from object placed before her; plays with fingers. If it gets worse when you change position then she might be tired and needs a nap.

Pain/Wind

Listen: Unmistakable shrill high-pitched scream that comes without warning; may hold breaths between wails and start again.

Observe:

Whole body tenses and become rigid, which perpetuates the cycle, because the air can’t pass; pulls knees upward to chest, face is scrunched in an expression of pain, tongue wiggles upward, like a little lizard.

All newborns swallow air, which can cause wind. Throughout the day you’ll hear a tiny, squeaky wincing sound in the back of the throat – that’s air swallowing. Wind can also be caused by irregular feeding patterns.

Hunger

Listen: Slight cough like sound in the back of the throat; then out comes the first cry. It short to begin with then more steady: waa, waa, waa rhythm.

Observe:
Baby starts to subtly lick her lips and then ‘root’ – tongue starts coming out and turns head to side; pulls fist toward mouth.

The best way to discern hunger is look at when baby last ate. If she’s on EASY it removes some the guesswork.

Too cold

Listen: Full-out crying with bottom lip quivering.

Observe:
Tiny goose bumps on skin; may shiver; cold extremities; skin can sometimes have a bluish tinge.

Can happen with a newborn after a bath or when you’re changing and dressing her.

Too hot

Listen: Fussy whine that sounds more like panting, low at first, about five minutes; if left alone will eventually launch into a cry.

Observe
Feels hot and sweaty; flushed; pants instead of breathing regularly; may see red blotchiness on baby’s face and upper torso.
Different from fever in that cry is similar to a pain cry; skin is dry, not clammy. (Take temperature to be sure)

Where’d you go? I need a cuddle
Listen: Cooing sounds suddenly turns into short waas that sound like a kitten; crying disappears the minute baby is picked up.

Observe:
Looks around, trying to find you.
If you catch this straight away you may not need to pick baby up (pat on back, soft words of reassurance).

Overfeeding
Listen: Fussing, even crying after a meal.

Observe:
Spits up frequently
This often occurs when sleepiness and overstimulation are mistaken for hunger.

Bowel movement
Listen: Grunts or cries when feeding

Observe:
Squirms and bears down; stops nursing; has bowel movement.
May be mistaken for hunger. Mum often thinks she’s ‘doing something wrong’.

LaurieMarlow · 14/01/2020 09:52

I genuinely just think he hates me.

It’s quite common to think this. It’s absolutely not true. You’re his whole world.

JillGoodacre · 14/01/2020 09:53

It's also worth letting student finance know that you've had a baby. My husband went back to uni when i had my first we got a grant from them when she was about 6 months old. This was 10 yrs ago though so don't know how much it has changed

bobstersmum · 14/01/2020 09:53

This is just so sad. I hope you get help ASAP Flowers

AnuvvaMuvva · 14/01/2020 09:53

Student finance are saying they’ve paid me but I genuinely haven’t recieved it.

Ring your bank. It might be clearing?

Nifflernancy · 14/01/2020 09:54

He’s so tiny he has no capacity to hate, honestly.

clairindespair · 14/01/2020 09:54

The bank are saying not recieved it

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SaskiaRembrandt · 14/01/2020 09:54

Haven't read the full thread just wanted to say that as a student with a child you may be entitled to some benefits:

www.turn2us.org.uk/About-Us/News/What-benefits-can-students-claim

Also, do speak to student support services.

Ahdjdkfbdixbsk · 14/01/2020 09:55

He doesn't hate you. They really hate being out of the uterus, where they were warm and it was all they ever knew. One of mine like me singing loudly at her, mad as it sounds.
Cab you ring your local sure start and tell them how you feel, that you don't feel you can talk to your HV and you need help? Even a listening ear for a bit might help and if you can walk down even carrying baby then they might have a group on today.
They're on 0161 351 9664.
It does get better and you did the right thing by posting here, you obviously want what's best for him.