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Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

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TheMustressMhor · 12/01/2020 10:15

...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

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Antibles · 13/01/2020 11:18

Interesting perspective packing. The thing is though, the job might have been tedious but Meghan was in a fantastic position to show the world that a Duchess with darker skin can do the job as well as anyone else. Two fingers up to a racist every event she attended, without needing to say a word. A very real contribution of a different kind.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 13/01/2020 11:19

I saw that tweet Womenwotlunch - if true, someone with links to someone who has also stepped back from royal duties but not had a syllable of criticism about it. Fascinating.

GlitchStitch · 13/01/2020 11:19

If William cheated then he's an absolute shit. I hope this isn't being used as blackmail by H and M as some are suggesting though, because that would be an absolutely horrible thing to do to Kate.

TheMustressMhor · 13/01/2020 11:20

I did click on your links, seahorses.

They were just pictures of Kate pregnant. She wasn't ostentatiously cradling her bump in any of them.

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crispysausagerolls · 13/01/2020 11:20

Kate’s up do looked amazing this morning

I thought this! Beautiful hair but angry face!

derxa · 13/01/2020 11:20

I just think that some of you have allowed yourselves to be influenced by the press. No I've listened to what she has to say and I've watched her on TV. She wouldn't give you the time of day.

OxfordCat · 13/01/2020 11:20

@longwayoff the fact that that's a "new word" to you and others on MN speaks volumes unfortunately. It's a way of life for women of colour in this country.

BlindAssassin1 · 13/01/2020 11:21

I don't think you realise how hard it is to have this kind of role until you find yourself in it and experience the reality of what it is actually like.

Oh please, its hardly stacking shelves through the night, or wiping bums in a care home. Even to call what they do 'work' is somewhat insulting to us peasants and surfs who have to actually graft for a living.

The RF have always operated under a never complain; never explain policy. The British public have let a lot slide regarding all their shenanigans over the years because by and large they never whinged about their lot - which is pure luxury compared the rest of the nation.

But that Disney video....Oh my goodness, you just about turn inside out cringing seeing PH grub for work. He wasn't even very good at it, it was so graceless and crass!

BovaryX · 13/01/2020 11:21

You are basically spending your days as a bystander to the important events in other people's lives without actually being involved in any real way
Packing
That's a really interesting point. I think part of this has been a total failure to adequately brief MM on the subservient nature of the role. If in addition to that, she has encountered hostility motivated by jealousy from senior in laws, this denouement is unsurprising.

MurrayTheMonk · 13/01/2020 11:24

Families are like this though aren't they?. My exh's sisters disliked me from the get go and made it fairly obvious. I'm from a different religious background to them and I'm just not their kind of person-probably because I didn't agree with them all the time.
After a few years I stopped going as far out of my way to make effort with them because I got nothing back.So I suppose I was the Meghan in that situation....

Except that I was always polite at family stuff , even when they weren't-always showed up to endless family events and holidays, supported then h with his family stuff, made sure my kids saw them regularly...because that's part and parcel of being married. I didn't enjoy it especially, and although I tried not to let it,I'm sure that occasionally showed-not fun but that's what you sign up for.

I wouldn't have attempted to isolate my exh from his family, nor if I worked for them, have jacked my job in without discussing it with them first...even if only because I try to live by the maxim that when others go low you should go high, where possible.

They didn't all have to like each other. I'm sure any such feeling was mutual. But within that you do have to try and do the right thing. And that's doubly so if you've married into the royal family and your luxury lifestyle is being paid for as a result.

I don't think Britain is the most racist country in the world and having lived in the US we are certainly miles ahead in terms of multiculturalism, so those editorials accusing us as a nation of extreme racism are galling-and in turn won't help with H and M's public perception. Of course there are racist individuals...and they are wankers.
Some of the criticism of Meghan no doubt is racist. But I still think most of it is because to your average Brit-she comes across as hugely wanky tbh. And as a nation we are less tolerant of that then say the US seems to be.

Jennie Bond was being interviewed on the radio over the weekend and was accused by Danielle Dash of being racist when describing Meghan as 'intelligent, articulate and passionate' because according to Danielle those things shouldn't need to be stated about a mixed race person-why are they not assumed? Why should they need to be stated? Jenny was a bit non plussed as it's her actual job to describe her impressions of the royal family, she had been nothing but positive and she had described Princess Di in exactly the same way earlier. She got called 'a white racist bitch' on Twitter for saying that Meghan was articulate and smart. It's becomes increasingly difficult to achieve cohesion when even positive comments about someone are perceived as evidence of bigotry.

I love people who come on threads criticising people for talking about it. I Find it fascinating tbh-it's interesting in the way celebrity stuff is interesting (to me). Each to their own. Don't read it if you dont like it...

SunsetBoulevard3 · 13/01/2020 11:27

To me there were two red flags very early on. The way she completely dominated Harry in the engagement interview and the Fab Four debacle when she started spouting in about how she ‘fundamentally disagreed that women don’t have a voice’. It was arrogant and out of place, especially as she hadn’t even married Harry by that point. What she was saying wasn’t even relevant to the discussion.

notmoresheep · 13/01/2020 11:28

Also I find it surprising that anyone is surprised William had an affair. Marriage is for heirs, mistresses are expected and the courtiers who surround them are discreet.

karencantobe · 13/01/2020 11:28

I have no idea if the RF were welcoming to Meghan or not. But I do laugh at the idea that being invited to the Christmas do or other family events are evidence of them being welcomed. Plenty of families do that to a new partner/spouse of their children, while disliking or disapproving of the marriage.

Rinoachicken · 13/01/2020 11:30

I can’t blame
Kate for not being all buddy buddy with Meghan for the first 18months - she didn’t know her from Adam! In her position, she is presumably very careful about who she shares confidences with and who she lets her guard down. I don’t see why she would change that just because it’s her new SIL.

As it turns out it seems to have been a sensible move - can you image how she’d be feeling now if she’d poured her heart out for Meghan and Meghan was now threatening to tell the world?

OxfordCat · 13/01/2020 11:30

@Elspeth fine - all anyone needs to do is Google Giles Coren Prince William and it's all there on multiple media sources.

GlitchStitch · 13/01/2020 11:32

Great post Murray. The word 'wanky' sums up my feelings well too.

TheMustressMhor · 13/01/2020 11:35

I have to confess that I am amazed that this is going to spill out into a fourth thread.

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IrmaFayLear · 13/01/2020 11:35

Since she has arrived someone is feeding the press this shit?

Someone linked upthread to a vlog by a woman who used to work for The Star (US supermarket rag). She said that they always found it difficult to get decent royal gossip because it was a very closed-ranks set-up. After Meghan there was increasingly a great deal of gossip and inside information, apparently placed by M's US PR team. It pays (her) to have the royals in the news - whether that news is good or bad.

ElspethFlashman · 13/01/2020 11:35

Yeah but that was just Giles being goady. He was born a goady fucker.

Doesn't mean he knows a thing!

ElspethFlashman · 13/01/2020 11:36

Omid Scobie.

He's been the one feeding people their side.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 13/01/2020 11:37

no evidence of it being true but

So why even mention such a vile rumour?

IrmaFayLear · 13/01/2020 11:39

I was just listening to a discussion on this on Woman's Hour. They gave a lot of airtime to people who were saying, "Oh, leave the young couple alone." I just can't fathom people's thinking. Everyone would wave them off into the Tundra sunset if that's what they wanted. But that's not what they want - they want a fully-financed (oh, they're kindly offering a 5% discount) international jet set lifestyle with the opportunity to hawk royal merch - and that is what rankles.

JanesKettle · 13/01/2020 11:40

She has donated her latest winnings to the Australian bushfire relief efforts

Good on Serena! Now there's someone I admire for her talent, and her activism around black maternal mortality. And she's got a heart for AU as well, without even being associated with the Commonwealth! Wonderful woman.

MrsBrentford · 13/01/2020 11:40

They aren’t a “young couple”