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Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

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TheMustressMhor · 12/01/2020 10:15

...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

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karencantobe · 13/01/2020 11:01

Oh come on! No one with any intelligence would have thought that Meghan would be the centre of attention. I don't believe that for one minute.

Womenwotlunch · 13/01/2020 11:01

@Alltheprettyseahorses-
Allegedly Camilla Tominey ‘s ( anti Meghan)source was someone very very close to the Duchess of Cambridge . The plot thickens

Packingsoapandwater · 13/01/2020 11:02

Just picking up something about the comments on Edward and Sophie's work ...

I have a close family member who has a ceremonial role that involves representing a civic institution at a lot of events: everything from parties for children in care to church services to charity functions to opening a new wing of a SEN school or a new local exhibition.

And I have to say, imo, it's exhausting work that operates, fundamentally, as a small-scale diplomatic enterprise between the public and the institution. It's necessary, it's important, but it's not personally fulfilling at all because you are not actually doing anything "real."

The nearest equivalent would be that it is like going to a formal wedding every day, except you can't get pissed, you don't know anyone, you have to look immaculate, and you have to talk to everybody, smile constantly and say pleasant things to people that assure them you think they are fascinating. And then you usually have to give a speech that is both good humoured and doesn't offend anyone.

I've done a number of them in the past, and, believe me, it's not the jolly it looks. I once sat in a freezing cold church for three hours on a hard pew while listening to a presentation on evangelical music of the 1950s. By the end, I was so drained by the experience that I just went home and went to bed.

The only thing you get out of it personally as an individual is the exposure, but if you have no need for that because, say, you have no desire to go into politics or you are a member of the Royal Family, it can be a special kind of torment.

So I'm really not surprised if Megan has realised that she just doesn't want that life. I wouldn't want it, even if I was guaranteed all media coverage would be positive. You are basically spending your days as a bystander to the important events in other people's lives without actually being involved in any real way.

And I do have to say ... I don't think you realise how hard it is to have this kind of role until you find yourself in it and experience the reality of what it is actually like.

crispysausagerolls · 13/01/2020 11:03

But I think Meghan is used to Hollywood where everyone is fake and fawning, and she expected to be fawned over. Which is not the British way, and certainly not the RF way. And she was not able to handle this.

astralweaks · 13/01/2020 11:03

@WendyMoiraAngelaDarling

LOADS of people are accusing anyone who criticises M as being racist. Right here on MN actually.

That is completely true. Those who resorted to this - seemingly automatically - have gone a bit quiet, though, since this situation imploded...

Womenwotlunch · 13/01/2020 11:04

She wasn’t exactly living in a hovel for crying out loud. She was a working actress, not Hollywood A list, but she was making a great living

BovaryX · 13/01/2020 11:06

Kate isn't known for fall outs

MM was in a new country as a new bride. If she encountered a hostile environment within the RF that reflects extremely poorly on its senior members. Jealousy and egotism are themes which recur. They are not limited to one sibling.

crispysausagerolls · 13/01/2020 11:07

I don’t buy that Meghan faced a hostile environment! Not until she started to show her real colours anyway. K and W were reportedly always round there for dinner and Charles walked her down the aisle, the Queen was seen chatting and laughing with her.
Then obviously it became clear what she was about and that Harry was under the thumb, and people’s attitudes changed somewhat.

Fraggot · 13/01/2020 11:09

What rumours are there about her past?

Apologies for late reply @crispysausagerolls

A few blinds mentioned the RF going to great lengths to prevent stories on her making it to press, this was around the time PH released a statement re the press treatment of MM.

Other blinds around the time referred to a sex tape and yachting.

(All alleged, no evidence of it being true but my comment will be deleted nonetheless)

BovaryX · 13/01/2020 11:11

Something has gone very seriously wrong and it reflects poorly on the institution. I think they have faced jealousy and hostility, a recurrent theme when one member gets more coverage than they are deemed to deserve. Prince Charles resented that about Diana.

Amylox · 13/01/2020 11:11

Thing is before the arrival of MM the RF seemed to be enjoying high popularity and no negative press or rumours

It's blatantly her. I had a look back at some of the stories during their break and a lot of them were really obviously placed by the Sussex camp to set the scene for this.

One of the stories claimed that William and Kate were plotting to use their absence to push their children forwards to steal the limelight and raise their profiles.

These are parents who've jealously guarded their children's privacy and strictly limited their exposure. It's just not credible. But it does chime almost exactly with H&M's 'we're being pushed out' bleating.

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SunsetBoulevard3 · 13/01/2020 11:12

rispysausagerolls
But I think Meghan is used to Hollywood where everyone is fake and fawning, and she expected to be fawned over. Which is not the British way, and certainly not the RF way. And she was not able to handle this

Yes, that’s the problem.

The80sweregreat · 13/01/2020 11:13

For what it's worth I believe she did know what she was letting herself in for.
She had the internet to tell her all about that family and it's handling of women ; she had people telling her not to get involved with them : she had the ability to be more clued up than Diana ever was about the press and the intrusion and I'm sure Harry must have told her something about his young life and his mum. People around her knew who he was even if she didn't at first !
she didn't listen and was willing to ' give it all up ' then my sympathy isn't there regarding moving home to come here.
The rest I'm not so sure about; the comments about her are vile and maybe they were a bit off with her. I'm on the fence to be fair , but I think she may have rushed into it all at first. Not done her homework !
I'm sure they will sort it out though. I hope so especially as there is a baby to consider too.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 13/01/2020 11:14

TheMustressMhor You clearly didn't click on my links then. 2 of them are literally to stories titled 'Kate cradles baby bump' and 'Kate cradles her baby bump' and the 3rd is full of photos of her doing it.

longwayoff · 13/01/2020 11:15

Heard a word new to me the other day. MISOGYNOIR. Seems applicable.

ElspethFlashman · 13/01/2020 11:15

Fair play to Kate, got the full eyeshadow on at 8am! She knew well they'd be lying in wait at the gate.

GlitchStitch · 13/01/2020 11:16

The Queen invited Meghan for Xmas before they were married, W and K had them stay at their house at that time. Charles was welcoming and walked her down the aisle, the Queen gave them the home they wanted, apparently the tours they wanted too. I don't think these 'bullying' rumours reflect badly on the RF at all. It seems like a desperate attempt to deflect criticism for their rude and disrespectful behaviour to the Queen.

OxfordCat · 13/01/2020 11:16

Also @Womenwotlunch William's affair with the 'Chumley' woman was widely and freely reported all over international press. It's just that many of the MN posters only read UK press where there's a news blackout. In addition, Giles Cohen who circulates with the royals tweeted about it and then quickly deleted, but not before it got screenshotted.

ElspethFlashman · 13/01/2020 11:16

There's also speculation that the Queen had the internal lights on in her car going to Church yesterday so the press could get a good shot of her looking stalwart.

Apparently it's an old trick of the Queen Mother's!!

The80sweregreat · 13/01/2020 11:17

Kate is clued up as to how it all works now. An old pro as they say.

fallen121 · 13/01/2020 11:17

I actually came on this morning to see if this had morphed into a 4th thread! There's over 900 responses on this one!

MrsBrentford · 13/01/2020 11:17

Kate’s up do looked amazing this morning Grin

ElspethFlashman · 13/01/2020 11:18

Giles Coren doesn't circulate with the Royals.

AT ALL.

His wife is an Instagrammer and often humorously complains about not knowing any people like that.

notmoresheep · 13/01/2020 11:18

Meghan has been quoted as saying “its not for me” etc. Well the title, money and all the trappings clearly are otherwise there’s be none of this SussexRoyal bullshit in their future. She’d happily be Mrs Dumbarton of Little Whingeing. Being a member of the RF also means duty and service as Harry knows. Clearly that’s the bit that’s not for her, the only duty MM is displaying is to herself and there is plenty to confirm that is what she’s always been about.

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