Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

[TheMustressMhor]

...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

@Fuzzyhair89

I do not think there is a cat's chance in hell that his family will be able to talk him out of the outcome MM desires.

At the moment he does not seem to me to be thinking straight.

@OxfordCat She gets criticised all the time for perfectly normal behaviour. It is crazy the level of vitriol. It was inevitable she would not stay in Britain with all of this going on.

I have acknowledged that, I argued vigorously on a previous thread that use of the word 'uppity' towards her was completely racist. I think the Compton headline was too. I have seen a narrative being spun now though that any criticism of the couple is due to racism. I don't believe calling out their hypocrisy is racist. I think there is a cultural divide certainly, but I see it more as showbiz LA/ preachy stuff vs more cynical and sarcastic Brits.

Lots of pregnant women do not cradle their bumps.
I cannot think of anyone who does it, other than MM

I know someone!
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/876966/Kate-Middleton-twins-baby-pregnant-royal-news-Duchess-of-Cambridge
www.ok.co.uk/celebrity-news/pregnant-kate-middleton-baby-bump-14477167.amp
www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2018020646080/kate-middleton-pregnancy-baby-bump-compared/

”she has a great deal to say on many issues"

I really doubt anyone would misinterpret the tone there.

I keep reading that Harry is “6th in line now and only going to drop further down the line of succession as time goes on”. But that’s not true is it - I mean, long term, yes - but in the next 10 years he’ll be 5th, in the next 20, 4th... he’ll only start to drop down once George, Charlotte and Louis have children which is likely not to be until he’s in his 60s.

Unless Kate and William have another child, he won’t be “lower” than 6th for quite some years.

There have also been rumours that Kate and William split before their marriage because William had another affair.

Has Camilla Tominey revealed her source for unpleasant gossip about Meghan Markle btw?

I don't think all criticism of Meghan is racist, but I do think some of it is inspired by racism.
There does seem almost to be a "need" though to have a "good" Princess and a "bad" one. It reminds me of Diana and Fergie when Diana became a living saint and Fergie was constantly criticised. In reality there was both good and bad about both of them.

Today 10:04 ssd

Are you all in a froth waiting with baited breath..
Not all but some might be waiting with bated breath...

Out of interest I clicked on two of the links offered by theprettyseahorses and in none of them is Kate cradling her bump - so I am not sure why they were posted.

If an ordinary person posted on here saying that their inlaws were frosty to them, and in the village they lived in they experienced a lot of hostility and covert racism, they would be being told to move

There's not really any evidence that anyone has been frosty really.
On the other hand imagine someone posted that they knew a man who had got married and had a baby with a woman he barely knew, had started to have fallings out with his beloved family because his wife didn't like them and was always complaining about them. That he had blown off his old friends and rejected old interests and was starting to talk like the wife. That he looked miserable all the time and talked about being on the edge. I bet we'd all be saying that there were a few red flags there.

What is so hard about acknowledging the awful racism she has experienced, and condemning it? It's possible to do this whilst also saying that you don't personally like her or approve of her choices.

Do we need to do that every single time we post though. Because as the threads go on people keep arriving to tell everyone how racist the discussion is even though it has been discussed and acknowledged previously. Therefore it feels like any discussion at all is being labelled racist and people are just tired of defending themselves.

I think if true, William's "bullying" is probably because he wouldn't make MM the centre of attention and probably expected her to defer to protocol and rules of precedence. It must have come as a shock to MM to realise that right or wrong, these things still matter and you cannot gain special status just by being beautiful and smart and "progressive".
If true that she fell out with Kate quite early on around the wedding time it's sad - Kate isn't known for having fall outs.

Maybe the press write about Meghan differently because they are at the events they photograph and see the difference between Kate touching her bump once or twice, and Meghan doing it constantly, and therefore it comes across as affected and changes the way they see it/write about it.

Certain press have been racist and nasty towards her and some UK citizens are racist.

All of this is true, but vast amount of ordinary people are not or haven't been towards her as they haven't even met her. The ones lining the streets to see them get married were not racists at all otherwise they they wouldn't be there.
Lots of people were seeing them as as breath of fresh air and had high hopes of a sea change of some kind for the Royals. Sadly this looks like it won't be the case now.

As well as any problems she may have had post partum it's now alluded that members of Harry's family may have been hostile to her hence the bullying accusations which do seem fairly new. It is awful if this is the case or it could be just speculation again! Nobody really knows or will do until a book is published I suppose.
A lot of the Diana allegations were dismissed at first but then were found to be true. She was also bullied by them and encountered hostility. There is obviously a deep seated problem with their attitudes and actions at times. Big problems that are deep rooted. Some families are just like this I guess or just set in their ways. Not sticking up for them as nobody knows what went on ; it could all be lies about this for all anyone knows. ?
They did seem happy about the wedding and have done things which suggest the opposite; doing up the cottage, supporting her etc.
Time will tell.

If an ordinary person posted on here saying that their inlaws were frosty to them, and in the village they lived in they experienced a lot of hostility and covert racism, they would be being told to move

They'd be called CFs if they still wanted the FIL to keep giving them money though.

Kate looks piiiissssseeeddddd off in the photos of her doing the school run this morning

MrsBrentford

Antibes

Yes pisses me off too - because it’s not true.

Me too. It infuriates.

crispysausagerolls

Ok, then allow me to retrospectively add “allegedly” or “a source close to the couple has revealed...”

That’s better.

Yes they would be called CFs for that. They would be expected to work. But senior members of the RF working brings its own issues. The RF were reportedly furious about Sarah Ferguson working for weight watchers in the US. If the RF are happy for Harry and Meghan to work, then they should receive no money at all.

For all those saying that William didn’t cheat on Kate.
I remember when there were rumours of Charles cheating on Diana. My mother firmly believed it was a load of rubbish because ‘Charles wouldn’t do that’ . She was shocked when she found out the truth.
So it is within the realms of possibility that William did actually cheat.
I have also seen and heard a number of journalist’ hint’ strongly that all was not well with William and Kate’s marriage.

With regards to Meghan, I really can’t see what this woman has done wrong. I hear people give various reasons as to why she’s so awful and I have seen little evidence to prove that she is. I really can’t
Those who say ,’ I used to like Meghan , but not anymore’. They then give some spurious reason as to why they don’t like her.
I have seen it on MN and it’s so sad.
One can understand why black or mixed race people are convinced that a lot of the hate is due to a combination of both racism and sexism. Furthermore, some elements of the press are just nasty and have decided to hate her.
I just think that whatever your views on Meghan. This woman gave up a lucrative career, her home etc to live her.
She obviously had good intentions with her charity work, but some of you are acting as though she has killed someone.
I just think that some of you have allowed yourselves to be influenced by the press.

Thing is before the arrival of MM the RF seemed to be enjoying high popularity and no negative press or rumours.

Since she has arrived someone is feeding the press this shit?

Can I propose Serena Williams and her husband as the new Duchess and Duke of Sussex please? Serena has done much promote women in sport, working mothers and black women. She is smart, tenacious and inspirational. She has donated her latest winnings to the Australian bushfire relief efforts.
We can do so much better than H&M...

“She gave up her home etc”

Ffs to live in a bloody castle, it was hardly giving everything up to live in squalor was it?