Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

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...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

And veterans etc. were making comments about what an important figure he was and feeling hurt he's going away - that's what I meant by he's been given no choice but to leave and his loss will be felt by some ordinary people who he helped.

I thought R4 was Radio 4 as well!

The Meghan acting thing - I was thinking that she must be preferring to be a member of the Royal Family because otherwise leaving Hollywood and California etc seemed utter madness. I never thought "oh she luffs him", I just thought she found being a member of the RF more appealing. That's not a criticism, btw, I'm not much of a one for love and sacrifice. But that's the bit - if any of this is true - that is surprsing to me - if she doesn't like The Firm. I thought that was the whole point!

I don't think this is deflection from PA. More like 'One damned thing after another'. The Queen and Prince Philip are too old, and they don't play this sort of media circus for fun.

At their ages this sort of stress can take a real toll. The issues with PA aren't going away anytime soon. Once the deal with H&M is done, next week, PA will surface again.

Maybe the PA situation is part of the reason MM wants to distance herself. Having to be polite/silent in public and polite in private with him might just have been the straw that broke the camels back. The instance that he's innocent might just have been too much to stomach.

Feel very sorry for Harry.

I think this year may be critical for the RF.
There's this issue of course, but I don't think Andrews scandal will go away, sadly for them I don't see Philip lasting the year...
I think they need to move quickly to a slimmed down monarchy despite the difficulties this will present with managing fringe royals like the Kents etc.
What I think they had planned for a few years into the future needs to happen now if they want to be seen to be listening and moving with the times.

I thoroughly recommend "and what do you do" by the former mp Norman baker. It's a real eye opener.

Has anyone asked Paul Burrell for his expert opinion on all this?

No doubt This Morning or Loose Women will

*Obviously it was in the hands of the press already. If they were determined to be vitriolic about her at any cost, why wasn't it shown the day after it happened?

Maybe the press have pulled their punches (for whatever reason) in the past.*
Or maybe it's because they like to have a never ending stock of negative stories and they sont want to use them all up too soon?
I was looking at the DM online page today and the level of vitriol and negative stories they posted actually made me feel ill. It's quite frightening to me and I can see how people on social media get depressed and suicidal.

The Disney pitch video is just so cringe.

Even DH, who really couldn't give a tiny mouses fart about any of this, said his toes were curling when I showed it to him

How has he been given no choice as to leave?

One courtier was saying at the beginning of the week "They were given the hours they wanted, the tour they wanted, the house they wanted and the staff they wanted.... yet apparently it was never going to be enough"

They made the point that others in the RF don't get to pick and choose these things half as much.

Look at Edward and Sophie. They are constantly on Commonwealth tours abroad and get zero publicity. Edward does 4th in terms of engagements if you look at the annual breakdown. But do we ever see any of it? He had had to take on the Duke of Edinburgh awards after his father got too old. Did he even want to take it on? Or would he have rather developed a passion project of his own?

But they just do it without fanfare cos its the price of the VAST privilege they enjoy.

Note I'm not defending any Royal here, as an ardent Republican, but even I can see that it's not true that they were treated badly. At all.

powergower
It's so bloody transparent the rf are frothing with glee that pa is finally off the hook.

Your statement is delusional. This latest RF car crash doesn't distract from PA, it compounds and increases what is already a Tsunami of negative publicity The Duke and Duchess do not seem to understand their subservient role in the royal hierarchy. The current situation is untenable and it remains to be seen how Brand Sussex can live in America whilst trading on their royal titles and shunning the dreary provincial town glad handing which goes with it. Who was briefing them? Why weren't the implications of being in a subservient role redolent with duty and a loss of freedom made explicit prior to the marriage? It's just another royal train wreck. And the brand damage will continue if the Igor video is a sign of things to come....

I think you're right Wheresthebeach
MM did have a choice to become part of the royal family - or not. She chose to join and now, 2 minutes later, she doesn't like it. I wonder if she'd have been so keen on PH if he was an average citizen. He's got much more to lose in all this but I don't think that has dawned on him yet.
He's rather naive and it's all a bit adolescent.

Do feel sorry for William. He and Harry were so close and I can’t see their relationship ever being repaired.

That’s The Times front page too. Bradby should just stfu, he’s throwing petrol on the fire.

Is everything coming from Bradby basically authorised by H&M? He is a close confidante of them after all (apparently) so I doubt he’d say anything to risk jeopardizing that relationship. But maybe I’m way off the mark.

Can somebody explain why the emphasis on Canada as opposed to the United States/ California? The press talk about a generic North America. Is it because the United States doesn’t recognise titles and therefore they couldn’t work their brand from there?

Well Meghan has connections there and it's in the commonwealth. Probably a starting post to California.

What's the deal with the ip's she has bought?

Canada I suppose because MM was living there whilst filming suits.

Handy that it's part of the Common Wealth too.

USA love titles ! And the 'brand ' will be flaunted there no doubt about it.

sorry, I think I must mean domains, someone aborad just asked me and I have no idea

She will also keep her Canadian status.

I know she has connections there, but I don’t believe they would actively prefer to be in Canada as opposed to the US. I think it’s because they can’t be recognised as royals, dukes etc in the US.

savethecat

Its common practice to buy all versions of the domain that you want to use.

It stops anyone else trying to piggyback off the brand and also prevents people buying the name that you want and selling it to them at inflated prices.

It is also an indicator of the planning that they have put into this.

I feel very sorry for the Queen, having to deal with Andrew and now this. She is ninety three years old, and Prince Phillip is close to a hundred. To put her through the stress of these negotiations when it could have been handled in a much better way seems extraordinarily heartless behaviour from a Grandchild and his wife.
They are coming across as horribly selfish and callous. The Queen may be the head of State but she is also the head of their family, who has stoically served this country for her entire adult life. She deserves consideration and respect.

I don’t think many people would begrudge Harry and Meghan living in a much more private way, as long as they paid their own way entirely, but this seems so petulant and manipulative, and to what end ? Ruined family relationships, less public support ? I see comments on here all the time about Meghan’s intelligence, but this is not an intelligent way to behave, it is destructive and damaging. She is part of the RF now and should have stayed here with Harry to sort this out. They both have behaved very badly.

The US may “love titles” in a general sense but they aren’t recognised in the Constitution.

I don't think it matters a jot if the Sussexes are stripped of their titles.

They are so famous now that they will always be newsworthy.

Every time we go on holidays, DH and I fantasise about not coming back. Jacking in our jobs, selling the house, buying a little coffee shop by the beach to get away from it all.. obviously we never do. We always come home and get on with it!

This whole Canada thing smacks of this! They were having such a marvellous time on Vancouver Island, they decided to stay for good.