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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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TheMustressMhor · 10/01/2020 10:56

Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

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Cacacoisfarraige · 12/01/2020 07:34

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Emmapeeler1 · 12/01/2020 07:49

He's talking about it being an emergency, everyone can see it. Yet taking private jets around the world. But that's ok they planted a few trees to compensate.

And then, surprise, they are me going to ‘balance their time’ between two continents. Is tha

Emmapeeler1 · 12/01/2020 07:51

Sorry, now going to.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 12/01/2020 07:57

the point is that Meghan gets hammered for doing something Kate is praised or admired for.

Don't be silly, those aren't direct comparisons and it's disingenuous to claim they are.

In the black/white gown photos Meghan was being criticised for wearing black nail polish. Coloured nail polish is reportedly verboten for royal women, and Kate wasn't wearing it afaik.

The noticeable bump cradling was something Meghan was seeing doing again and again throughout her pregnancy. Kate was spotted once with her hand resting on the top of her bump, around the time she was expected to give birth.

By all means point out genuinely unfair comparisons but don't make stuff up.

It's no good blaming the press if people are too stupid or lazy to read past the headlines.

MrPickles73 · 12/01/2020 08:01

It was obvious 6 months ago this was on the cards. I was bored of this discussion then. They should just Crack on with it. Royal family was too big and there was no real role for him so seems a good idea. Several of the European royal families are also cutting down on numbers.

GlitchStitch · 12/01/2020 08:07

Tom Bradby is now saying if they don't get their way in the negotiations they could do a damaging, tell-all interview about the RF. He's Harry's friend and confidante, would he make these kinds of statements without their approval? Sounds like blackmail to me.

LotteLupin · 12/01/2020 08:09

Read the article by Gina Nelthorpe-Cowne.

It's everything some of us were worried about, about Meghan having her plan and dominating. I thought she was obviously being disingenuous when she said she'd been naive about how the dreadful British tabloids would attack her, and she clearly was being.

This is a ruse. She pleads the victim too often. She lied that she had a hard time getting funded through college. When I first saw that, I thought oh no. Here we go. Pathological manipulator.

Of course she never planned to spend her life opening leisure centres in Scunthorpe (I know it well so not talking down! I just know it's not hugely glam!) and visiting hospital wards. She's an ambitious Hollywood actress. She's satisfied her acting need by playing various real life roles over the past couple of years, but now she's getting back to business.

I'm afraid I don't buy it that she's a defenceless victim. She's just not having anyone tell her what to do or call her on bad behaviour. She knows telling Harry she's at breaking point over 'the British press' will of course have him doing anything to protect her. Even giving up his own family and his amazing work with people here. He's a genuine altruist with huge empathy and was such an asset to the Royal family. She's given him no choice. It is her and his son or his family and his working life as a Royal.

Of course he chooses his own little family. But the strain is showing. And I will be so bold as to say I actually think she has, consciously or not, manipulated him by putting pressure where it hurts him most. By saying the press and life here endangers her and Alfie. And that is unforgivable, and a very bad sign for Harry's future.

I'm dreadfully sorry for him. Again. And for all the people who would have gained strength and joy from being around him. She's taking away a national treasure. It's unbelievably sad.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 12/01/2020 08:10

Tom Bradby is now saying if they don't get their way in the negotiations they could do a damaging, tell-all interview about the RF.

Blackmail for money. Nice.
This is still Harry’s family, even if Meghan doesn’t give a shit.

GlitchStitch · 12/01/2020 08:14

Yes that kind of interview would surely put his relationship with his family to the point of no return. It would also reflect more poorly on them IMO, being so disloyal. Interesting that it's been leaked by Bradby the day before their meeting though. I'm no royalist but the 93 year old Queen and her poorly 98 year old husband really don't deserve this shit.

LotteLupin · 12/01/2020 08:19

Yes open blackmail is just appalling.

Butterymuffin · 12/01/2020 08:20

Is that a threat to talk about William and the rift / whatever William has allegedly been up to?

Womenwotlunch · 12/01/2020 08:29

@LotteLupin- with respect, I think you’re being rather disingenuous.
I have read some of the articles and icomments sections of some papers and I am actually astounded and I admit , a little scared at some of the hatred toward Meghan. Now,I am no shrinking violet by any means, but if I was to receive that amount of hate on a daily basis I would be petrified tbh.

The misogyny exhibited by some MN posters is shocking . ‘She’s taking away a national treasure’, absolute hogwash.
We have all got this image of the joker Harry , getting sloshed and falling out of nightclubs.. The reality is that he was lost and unhappy, , which he has discussed openly. He has found someone he loves and who loves him. Little Harry is all grown up and wants to protect both himself and his wife from the verbal onslaught
Why can’t people accept that this man and his wife fear for their mental health which is why they are stepping down from senior Royal duties?.They didn’t say that they don’t want to be part of the Royal Family anymore.
It seems that people wanted Meghan to leave , but they didn’t figure on Harry going with her.

MurrayTheMonk · 12/01/2020 08:29

I think Tom Bradby is enjoying this a little bit too much to be honest.... he interviewed them a few times (and has he written a book?) and now seems to think he's their best friend. It feels a bit Paul Burrell to me..

Zipadeedoodah · 12/01/2020 08:31

Just scrolling through a few of the posts I see people who are trying to discuss the obvious racism which is a part of all this as "silly", "playing the race card" or overly woke or left wing. So basically if you dare to mention the obvious issue you will be shouted down .. this isn't a primary playground and it's obvious they many of the contributions have a simmering racism or dislike for those that have experienced it .. and think just by denying it exists means it we don't have to accept it as a truth. I've used the term gaslighting and this is a classic example of it. Just because you don't shout things out of your car window or have an acquaintance from an ethnic minority doesn't mean you're not a racist.

Womenwotlunch · 12/01/2020 08:32

Agree @MurrayTheMonk

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 12/01/2020 08:35

Why can’t people accept that this man and his wife fear for their mental health which is why they are stepping down from senior Royal duties?

I'll be interested to see just how much their poor mental health affects their working and money making endeavours in the future.

Womenwotlunch · 12/01/2020 08:40

They have to make a living. We have already had their detractors talking about ‘tax payers money’.

noodlenosefraggle · 12/01/2020 08:43

The misogyny exhibited by some MN posters is shocking . ‘She’s taking away a national treasure’, absolute hogwash
Total nonsense. The press are shining because they have pulled out of the Press Rota so it's now pre-season on them. Harry may be a 'national treasure' now (I doubt it) but he'll be as pointless as Andrew the 'war hero' in a few years' time.

noodlenosefraggle · 12/01/2020 08:45

Damn I posted while trying to correct my post It should read. I agree with the above. The press are throwing their toys out of the pram because they've pulled out of the Press Rota so it's open season.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/01/2020 08:56

The difference in the media treatment of KM and MM is shocking.

There were loads of pictures published of KM 'sweetly cradling' her bump at various times but if MM does it she's narcissistic. It's her bump and if she wants to touch it for whatever reason - comfort, discomfort, affection, pride, anything - it's nothing to do with anyone but her!

That Daily Fail dissection of the makeup KM and MM wore at the Remembrance commemoration is batshit. MM's whole look was far more muted than KM's right down to the earrings but they gaslightingly label it 'high-voltage Hollywood' as if she's full on scarlet lippy and metallic peacock eyes when the difference is just MM's beauty which she can't exactly get rid of.

Frankly, I don't blame MM for wanting to get away from the vultures. She'll always be pulled apart for being black, for marrying Harry when he was apparently meant to stay forever single to facilitate weird fantasies about him and his brother and SIL, for doing exactly the same things as KM, for doing anything different from KM, for actually having had a job in the past, for anything. It's not worth it. Hopefully they can be happy now. There are more important things to scrutinise in the anachronistic RF such as the top down facilitation of Andrew for example. MM was just something to be thrown to the wolves to distract from any real stories that might cause embarrassment.

Dongdingdong · 12/01/2020 09:06

Tom Bradby is now saying if they don't get their way in the negotiations they could do a damaging, tell-all interview about the RF.

If this is true then it shows Harry in particular in a very bad light. What a way to treat one’s family.

emkana · 12/01/2020 09:11

The speech in which Harry talked about being a new father and got emotional was not at a symposium for bereaved parents. It was the WellChild Awards for critically ill children and their families. He was talking about how much more he was able to empathise what it must mean to be in that situation now he had a child himself. Can't see what's wrong with that.

The80sweregreat · 12/01/2020 09:11

I went over the dark side ( the daily mail comments page) last night.
I'm no shrinking violet , but some of the comments made me feel ill. They are not moderated at all on there and the vitriol aimed at them both was appalling. I was shocked and a bit sad really.

The headlines were of the emotional sort ; ' I can't put my arm round my brother anymore' . As well as worries over money and phone calls.

The mail readers and people like Piers Morgan are lapping this up.

I just hope it's all sorted out quickly.

derxa · 12/01/2020 09:13

Tom Bradby is now saying if they don't get their way in the negotiations they could do a damaging, tell-all interview about the RF. Let them talk then.

MontStMichel · 12/01/2020 09:16

Nrtft, but IMO, making their announcement on the eve of Kate’s birthday was passive aggressive - if it is true that William and Charles were incandescent (or even just upset), it was bound to ruin Kate’s birthday for her? Kate must know all the spotlight for their generation will fall on her and William now?

IMO, it’s an ungracious way to behave, given Harry and Meghan want all the advantages of royalty but none of the disadvantages.

Let them go off as private citizens!

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