Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

*flipped! Although if they had flicked a bird at me I'd have been well impressed!

I don’t think people want the marriage to fail. Its easy to see why people are starting to say that though, given he’s become isolated from his friends and now this official separation from his family. I can’t say I want anyone’s marriage to fail but if one of us posted this was happening since their marriage on the relationships board I know what advice they’d be given.

Have you never seen all the Duchy foodstuffs in Waitrose, courtesy of Prince Charles

The whole purpose of the Duchy of Cornwall is to provide an income for the heir to the throne so he can do his duties without being beholden to the monarch, so selling produce from Duchy lands is a necessary part of that.

Yes, arguably the Duchy of Cornwall is an anachronism and excessive in scale, but it doesn’t conflict with the institution of the monarchy in the way that becoming “financially independent” through earning money by public speaking, lobbying, directorships, or perhaps even acting would.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-duke-sussex-greta-thunberg-climate-change-botswana-a9121546.html%3famp

He's talking about it being an emergency, everyone can see it. Yet taking private jets around the world. But that's ok they planted a few trees to compensate.

There's another interview where he says he's only having two children to be more sustainable. It is pure hypocrisy.

Then saying they are unhappy, have immense pressure whilst on a trip to SA with the huge levels of crime and poverty there. A trip which was meant to be to support their charities but ended up making headlines for the wrong reasons. I am not dismissing their feelings, they did both look very unhappy but that was not the time or place to be talking about these things. It puts them in a very bad light.

Too examples of times I think they open themselves up to criticism. They seem very old of touch with public opinion and views.

The Duchy of Cornwall is private, not state owned. So any profit is personal gain.

Duchy Originals, sold through Waitrose, is not the same as the Duchy of Cornwall. All profits go to charitable causes.

Income from the gift shops etc at Sandringham and Balmoral goes towards maintaining the estate, which provides many people with a livelihood, and to which the public have access.

Dutchy Originals as a brand name is owned by John Lewis/ Waitrose now and has no link to the Dutchy of Cornwall

myimginatycathasfleas beat me to it!

Duchy.

I don’t want their marriage to fail. I hope that some agreement can be reached with a sort of severance pay given to Harry as he resigns from being a working royal.

But it should be a one off payment and then he stands on his own two feet as Harry Windsor and not the duke of Sussex.
If his dad wants to continue to give him money or fund his security then that is a private matter and should be left private but no way should public funds be involved.

I don’t think Harry and MM are going to set up a website selling Sussex royal Tea towels and cups and are more likely to market themselves so basically the likes of apple, google or other major brand will employ them as some sort of brand ambassador. So paid to be at the launch of the next iPhone or Apple TV. But to be appealing for this they need their titles which is the stumbling block for me as I think they should renounce them if they are no longer working royals.

Yes, you are perfectly correct astralwekes

Was Meghan actually born in Compton? If not, I think that is racism, not laziness.

No, she's not from Compton.

I’m kind of surprised part 2 has 36 pages. It is time to move on. They made their decision, the Queen will now try and help them, what more is there to say? Yes everyone else doesn’t like what they did but maybe this is typical in these circles. We just don’t see it so much. Is it more of a problem because she’s one of us - from a basic income home/family life? Is it so hard to see her go and make millions? It’s what the royal family are about, so it’s not new. She just married into this circle. Are we upset because it’s not on “our” terms - with the paparazzi taking photos, and smiling in photos how we like to see it. It never was on “our” terms. In ten years we probably won’t see anything wrong with this. They’re moving out, it’s their life and we’re all over invested. I admit I was shocked by all this at first (when it came out) but maybe all “our” belief systems need a reality check. This is the royal family. They have a different life to us. It’s always been that way.

Duchy Originals, sold through Waitrose, is not the same as the Duchy of Cornwall

Ok thanks. Didn't know that. My point stands about any profits from the Duchy itself though.

Income from the gift shops etc at Sandringham and Balmoral goes towards maintaining the estate,

It is still personal gain. Presumably Harry and Meghan will use their profits to maintain their estate, wherever it may be, and pay their staff.

Weedsnseeds1

Yes, you are perfectly correct astralwekes

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The income from the duchy of Cornwall is audited and Charles pays tax on that income. The audit is a public record so anyone can see it.

If Harry and mm market themselves then who knows how transparent their accounts are going to be.

I wonder if Elton John has covered the costs of their carbon footprint with all the flights back and forward to Canada. Meghan must have some hellish jetlag.

To be honest, my take on it is that William and Harry have each married the ladies that make most sense for them. They love them, clearly, but actually both matches make a lot of sense.

Catherine is beautiful, clever but not really a showy person. Very steadfast. Perfect for a royal consort. Also, fact that she is not an aristocrat pr famous in her own right probably means she is better able to see the privileges that are the smooth that comes with the rough aspects of being a royal. Meghan already had lots of those privileges before Harry, so probably less able to enjoy them as a benefit of royal life, hence why she has struggled more, aside from the vile racist abuse she has got.

Harry is not happy as a royal. Wasn't before Meghan. But was somewhat stuck - wanted to live up to the billing (let's face it, if your brother will be king, it is unrealistic to think that you will drop out entirely - Ann's children are very different because they have been shielded from a lot of the circus from birth and have been able to do their own thing. Until William had his own kids, Harry was brought up as the spare). Whatever you think of her methods, Meghan is savvy and very likely to make a commercial success of what she touches. Somewhat of a fighter, stands up for a cause. Perfect. I think lots of people have been painting it as Harry being useful to Meghan, but I think that Meghan is very useful indeed to Harry. Unfortunately, whilst extremely complimentary in terms of what they want, they are too similar in terms of their flaws. A bit thin skinned, a bit impetuous and a bit naive in terms of being able to see how this might look to many people. Very emotional in terms of their approach, which will be part of their commercial appeal but makes them not terribly suitable to be senior royals in the current mould to be honest. I think they have absolutely done the right thing getting out, though the way they have done it is pretty unpleasant and looks very much like an attempt to have cake and eat it too. I don't think we should be paying for their security whilst in Canada.

@Dontsweatthelittlestuff

Charles pays income tax after having given money to Harry and William. I don't think this can continue if Harry is not on royal duties, so I suspect at least it would be reasonable for Harry to take a cut to reflect the additional tax that Charles would have to pay before passing money on to him.

But to be appealing for this they need their titles

I'm not sure they do. Everyone will still know who they are, with or without the Sussex title. He'll always be Prince Harry of Wales.

no way should public funds be involved.

Agree, but they've already said they're giving up the income Harry gets from the Sovereign Grant. Most of his income actually comes from Charles and the Duchy of Lancaster.

BTW who is funding Prince Andrew now?

more and more of these contrasts are being revealed. It's totally disgusting.

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Did she ever get as far as Scotland? I actually cannot think of a visit to Scotland or even Wales: I'm happy to be corrected and it's her loss anyway !

thetoddler totally agree.

I have a close friend who knows the Royals. She always said Kate was beige and "would be dangerous if she had an opinion" . We agreed this made her perfect for the job as another Diana-like personality could be a disaster as William's wife.

I agree too about Harry. I do hope it works but my concern has always been that he's not intellectually bright enough for Meghan and she could get bored.

I think Andy has a about £30 million in the bank from what he has inherited and the sale of property. I think he also has a trust fund from the queen and a pension from the navy although the pension would be a drop in the ocean on what he spends.

Don't gaslight posters who see the racism that is clearly there .. these accusations of it only being asserted by the "super-woke" is indicative of how deep rooted this racism is - you can't shout down those that are brave enough to call it what it is

If someone makes a claim of racism, it is not unreasonable to expect them to justify what is a very serious accusation. As far as I can see, the racism within the UK media articles concerning Meghan is extrapolated from pretty flimsy foundations which rely on assigning the worst possible motives to the writers.

This notion that “racism” exists simply if people say and believe it exists, with any challenge to this shut down as gaslighting, is all part of the post-truth nonsense currently afflicting much of the liberal-left.