Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

astralweaks I admitted my spelling error, which you kindly pointed out. What is your problem?

It's already being reported that one of the issues H&M have failed to consider is the tax implications of living between the UK and North America.

It's exactly this sort of issue that needed consideration before issuing this announcement.

For my part I absolutely think that Megan in particular has had a very rough time from the press. I'm very sympathetic in that regard.

Yes Cathrine had a hard time, but for Megan not only was there racist overtones to some reporting but there were also 2 other crucial differences.

Firstly, Catherine never faced the vitriol of a high profile "journalist" like Piers Morgan whose used his newspaper columns, TV presenting role and social media presence to relentlessly promote negative coverage.

Secondly, Cathrine has had the unwavering support of her family. With the exception of her mother Megan has seen the media (in the US and Uk) provide a platform to people with whom she was low/non contact with prior to meeting Harry, for their financial gain and whom I think it's fair to say seem to be pursuing a very personal vendetta against her.

So yes I'm very sympathetic to the notion that they would want to make changes to protect themselves from this level of press intrusion.

However, that's not what's happening is it?

They don't want a private life. They don't want to step away from being Royal.

The plan they have published on their website does not resolve this issue.

What it does is give them the ability to monetise their Royal status whilst cherry picking their duties and still retaining funding from the taxpayers and Duchy of Cornwall.

Fundamentally your stance on this comes down to do you agree with what they are demanding and the way they have gone about it?

For my part I'm happy for them to forge a new path but unhappy at the expectation that they can have their cake and eat it.

I also think this whole drama was avoidable. This could all have been discussed and agreed behind the scenes and presented in a way that was positive to the Royal Family and H&M - but they've chosen to press the nuclear button believing it to be to their advantage - and that sense of entitlement regarding what they think are "owed" and how they've decided to get it is something I find very distasteful/petulant/grabby.

@colouringinpro I get where you're coming from but at the end of the day tabloids are looking to sell papers. The RF has always been easy fodder, but they're lucky enough that whatever is printed they are essentially cosseted from it. If a general 'celeb' gets hammered in the press it can make or break them financially. The RF at least have the safety net of brushing it off and maintaing business as usual. Yes, it must feel a bit shit but I doubt they'll be sat wringing their hands worrying the bailiffs will come knocking if it all falls apart. If Joe Bloggs in the street fucks up and becomes headlines, they can possibly risk losing their job, home, kids. It's hardly the same thing. Harry and Meghan really don't have to fret if they're unliked by the public, unless they really need to feel they're winning a popularity vote.

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The make up one is bloody ridiculous ( and Kate looks knackered I think). The bouquet one is a disgrace.

Here's a couple more. They are appalling.

No idea why they didn't post as they showed in preview! Trying again.

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Where will they send Archie to school. Bit of Eton maybe? Buck the tread with Bedales or whatever the most expensive school in the States is. That I think will be telling as to what they are actually all about.

Dogno, the point is that Meghan gets hammered for doing something Kate is praised or admired for. Why do you think that is? It's not just to sell papers. They'd sell with just the photos minus the nasty comments.

I also don't think it matters that they won't go bust because of it. It's wrong. It's bigoted, whether the motive for the bigotry because of Meghan's colour, nationality or former profession and should be called out.

The queen, Charles, William and Harry are meeting for crisis talks at Sandringham on Monday.

Oh to be a fly on the wall there!

The difference in the way Kate and Meghan are reported in the press is shocking! I don’t read many newspapers so hadn’t realised until I saw the pictures posted above. Complete double standards.

Interesting background stuff - zelo-street.blogspot.com/2020/01/harry-meghan-press-truth.html?fbclid=IwAR1n0je9nyF1tLfWDLWVYPLjG-IpLvPLdBD8Zb7lAHvLpPhtFXLbQajVDUE

But to be fair Kate got stripped to the bone by the press at the time too. Meghan is 'fresh meat', the reality is the papers will print any old trash to sell papers. It shouldn't be the case but the reality is you're either flavour of the month, or the devil's spawn. If Harry had married anyone else the paps would have still found many nits to pick because any old tosh is 'news'. I personally despise anything that has been printed in relation towards racial degregation (thinly veiled or not), but I do believe the press would have picked over whoever he'd married and found 'something' to hone in on.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/business/companies/media-leisure/some-of-the-guys-will-stop-at-nothing-today-1-677484/amp

This was sent to me today, it’s an interesting read.
Kate was treated appallingly. I remember a documentary that mentioned she was called a bitch by photographers to get a reaction.

Yes, there has been racism when it comes to meghan and that is wrong on every level but Kate has had it bad too. It’s a shame nobody can say anything negative about Meghan without being labelled a racist.

Even before their relationship was public, she was throwing constant hints about it on her social media. Its obvious she loves him but I think it’s more the idea of him. She said she wanted someone famous. Would she still love him if he was just your average joe public?

This was always going to happen, she couldn’t stand being lower in the pecking order.

For my part I'm happy for them to forge a new path but unhappy at the expectation that they can have their cake and eat it.

This. They really want the best of both worlds and seem to think they can pick and choose. Unfortunately life isn't that simple, for anyone.

I’m stunned anyone cares so much. They are stepping down as senior royals - which given we pay so much for them all any way is a good thing. Now Will has heirs he’s never going to be king so why not step back, let Will and Kate do their thing and have a different life that’s more independent and the abuse Meghan has got since she’s been part of the family, who here would honestly stay for that?

I really don't think Meghan wants to slip quietly into obscurity - she wants the fame and glory without the negative aspects.

Must have been a bit of a panic, after trying to delicately extricate yourselves from an abusive situation over months, only to find out that some hack is about to blow all your plans out of the water and now your abuser(s) know you were up to something.

I think this is about the baby and the Queen's legal custody/ownership of him. Hence the staying abroad - after all, it would be a PR disaster if they were to send police, etc, to forcibly remove the baby from its parents - and wouldn't be kept quiet in the same way that it could be in the UK.

In what third world country does the oldest member of a family have ownership of any child born, over and above the rights of the man who fathered it and the woman who gave birth to it? That's right, here.

The Queen was never going to do anything about the custody of Archie

That law was only brought in in bygone years to control the future of child heirs who could have been in danger, particularly from potential power hungry step-fathers

It’s not even likely it would hold up in court even if she tried, but Charles stopping Diana taking William and Harry, his son’s, to live abroad after their divorce is a completely different kettle of fish to Harry’s Gran stopping Archie’s parents taking him where they both go

That was never going to happen. If she was that adamant on wielding her powers she’d never have allowed William to travel on the same plane as his parents and she did because it was what his parents wanted

She allows the Cambridges to travel in planes and helicopters as a group

She doesn’t try and parent her children’s children. She’s not going to suddenly want to steal her great-grandson from his parents

If he’s been kept in Canada because of potential custody issues then it’s because it’ll be better for Meghan in a custody fight with Harry if he’s settled in Canada already

@Bigchocfrenzy - totally agree with you. Plus someone else said that she gave a simpering interview after the engagement and I remember not believing a word when MM said she didn’t know who the royals were. Love them or hate them the main ones ARE famous, you would be really thick if you didn’t know their faces. She knew exactly what she was doing - ditched everyone she didn’t need any more like poor old dad and then realised that the Firm had it’s own rules and regulations and being part of it came with responsibilities. I think MM has a short attention span and expects what SHE wants to be provided. IMHO Harry made a big mistake (Wills tried to tell him). - I give it 5 years.
When Queenie passes on, that should be the end of the whole outdated circus

Eh? At what point is the Queen or anyone else likely to try and snatch Archie back? He's so far away from legacy of the throne he might as well not even be in the picture. And possibly that's part of the problem? No one wants to feel a 'spare' from birth, as a plan B mapped out in case it all goes tits up. But at the same time Harry is knocking on 40, and it doesn't seem to have bothered him enough before now to say 'hey! I'm just riding on coat tails but want to be independent (before knocking on 40).

The bouquet one is a disgrace.

Tbf when you just post two headlines you can make it show any bias you want. I'm not saying the media haven't treated MM appallingly, and she is frequently criticised for things others arebt. But as well as the article about Meghan's bouquet, the express also have an article entitled "the deadly truth behind Kate Middleton's lily of the valley bouquet" and "how princess Diana royal wedding tradition has put guests in danger for decades" and talks about how she put lily of the valley in her bouquet and that since then it's become a tradition.

It's become really trendy to deny racism these days

It's also become really trendy to label any criticism of someone of colour as being racist.

And seriously how many people get to sit about twiddling their fingers with their thumb up their bum until their 38? Not that many! If most folks working life entailed shuffling about the country nodding and smiling every few months, whilst pleasing themselves in the meantime. I'm sure we'd not all be crying just how hard it all is - with an entourage of security, nanny, chef, public writers, dressers.

I think that the issue with racism is that people often downplay its impact on everyday life
People who point out what is obvious racism are shouted down and told not to play the ‘race card’ or told not to discuss ‘that old chestnut ‘ again.
I am white, and I can assure you that practically all of the black people I encounter believe that racism and sexism is at play . Are they all ‘playing the race card’?
I accept that Kate had it hard. However,I am shocked by some of the comments in the papers and on MN about Meghan.
I think that it simply proves that despite patting ourselves on the back about being a ‘tolerant’ country. Britain is just as racist as ever. Sad but true.

But by the yardstick of a lot of countries Britain is considered far more an ethnic melting pot than others. I don't recall anyone lining the streets or setting up petitions for Meghan to not marry Harry? They are as entitled to do what they choose as much as the next person. But I don't think lumping their own choices on the toes of the general public is very fair.