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To think Harry wants to Have his cake and eat it

572 replies

Lardlizard · 09/01/2020 09:25

If you want to leave fine, goodbye
But you can’t be half in half out !

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Cremebrule · 09/01/2020 11:35

Do you think they’ve got the same crappy PR person as Andrew? Anyone sensible would have said for gods sake take out the bit about striving for financial independence when you’re loaded already.

I agree they have to be in or out and not a halfway house. He could have been in and kept a relatively low profile like Edward seems to have managed. I also bet most people couldn’t pick Princess Anne’s husband out in a lineup.

ChristmasSweet · 09/01/2020 11:35

I know lots of aspiring actors. Anyone one of them would give their right arm for a role like she had on Suits.

Yeah because they have nothing. She wasn't even the lead in suits. Yeah she had a decent part but not the lead.

I'm not bitter either, I called her smart. 😂 If what I said was her plan, you have to admit, it's a good one. And it's worked.

paulinespeaksmanylanguages · 09/01/2020 11:38

I'd never heard of Suits until she came along and I think that's true for many-it was hardly ER or Dallas was it? Nicole Kidman wasn't begging for a part in was she?

Of course, they can do what they like but no title, no protection and no money through the front or back door!

Live in Africa! Don't make me laugh.

LaurieMarlow · 09/01/2020 11:38

She wasn't even the lead in suits. Yeah she had a decent part but not the lead

She did very well for herself. Featured role, international series.

This ‘yeah but she wasn’t the lead’ is extraordinary.

Does it apply to everyone? Are we all having ‘disappointing’ careers because we’re not the CEO?

It’s absolutely batshit (and bitter as fuck).

Rosebel · 09/01/2020 11:40

Loads of royals are minor and no-one has a go at them. What have Andrew's kids ever done?
Besides Harry won't ever be King so why shouldn't he step back. I can't blame them. The press and public have had it in for Harry and Meghan from day one. She could never compare to Catherine (who isn't exactly that wonderful)and everyone including the Royal family have been trying to push them out since they got married.
They're doing what everyone wanted and it's still wrong. Far from having his cake and eating it I'd say Harry can't win.

LaurieMarlow · 09/01/2020 11:41

Nicole Kidman wasn't begging for a part in was she?

No she wasn’t.

But in what other career are we judged as a failure (or ‘disappointing’) if we aren’t top of the A list?

I’m a director of a company. But I’m not CEO of the biggest company in my country. Is that ‘disappointing’?

Of course not. But people aren’t bitter idiots about me.

ChristmasSweet · 09/01/2020 11:42

Wow you sound batshit yourself Laurie. You feeling OK hun? 😂

It's nothing against her, or anyone else, but it wasn't the lead. Most actors want to be the lead in a TV show or movie.

And as others have said, they'd not heard of it until she got Harry. It's hardly game of thrones level of popularity.

IfThingsComeInThreesWhyThisNow · 09/01/2020 11:42

Loved her in Suits.
Maybe she can play herself in The Crown Wink
Seriously though, this is a bizarre overreaction when you consider what else is going on in the world. Plus the half in half out is no frigging different to what many bloody wanted wrt Brexit ya big bunch of hypocrites. #GetMegxitDone Grin

Isabella70 · 09/01/2020 11:43

How much does their protection cost?

IfThingsComeInThreesWhyThisNow · 09/01/2020 11:45

Nicole Kidman was the lead in the Stepford Wives remake. Be careful what you wish for. #GotBotoxDone am here all week, try the veal

ChristmasSweet · 09/01/2020 11:47

Maybe she can play herself in The Crown wink

Now that would be funny Grin

LaurieMarlow · 09/01/2020 11:48

Wow you sound batshit yourself Laurie. You feeling OK hun?

Died laughing at this coming from you Grin

It's nothing against her, or anyone else, but it wasn't the lead. Most actors want to be the lead in a TV show or movie.

It wasn't the lead. That doesn't make it a 'disappointing career'. Just like not being CEO doesn't make it a 'disappointing career'. Are you going to engage with this point or is it too difficult for you? Wink

CSIblonde · 09/01/2020 11:52

Re their money. They paid for Frogmores furniture & all its fixtures & fittings from their own money. The external, structural knocking 5houses into one stuff was paid for by the Queen. So are they supposed to hand it back to her & lose all they spent? Harry has £9million from his Mother, money left him from the Queen mother & money from a fund the Queen set up for the brothers. I'm sure he can use that to find a home in Canada & then get prestigious bonkers money 'consultant' or 'representative' roles on the Boards of eco charities in the US. Assume she'll do same & prob revive her v lucrative lifestyle blog too. Their LA friends will have lots of useful wealthy contacts re £ making opportunities.

ChristmasSweet · 09/01/2020 11:54

Ah now where exactly did i specify a 'disappointing career'? I said 'not a great career'. Smile Which when you compare her to the many, many actors and actresses who have starred in numerous well know TV shows or movies, yeah I'd class it as not a great career. It's not disappointing (although maybe it is to her), but in comparison to others I wouldn't class her as among the greats at all.

You sure you're a director of a company? Your reading skills are bad. 😂

Bluntness100 · 09/01/2020 11:55

The protection costs about two million a year I think.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 09/01/2020 11:55

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LaurieMarlow · 09/01/2020 11:59

Apologies, you did say ‘not a great’ career.

Which when you compare her to the many, many actors and actresses who have starred in numerous well know TV shows or movies, yeah I'd class it as not a great career.

This is utter bollocks.

You do know that like 90% of actors are unemployed?

And that many, many more are getting by on bit parts, short theatre runs, tv shows that never get beyond pilot.

She did very well for herself as an actor. Trying to deny this just sounds like the green eyed monster.

Her net worth before marriage was estimated at around 5million.

firstimemamma · 09/01/2020 12:05

Yanbu!

HolesinTheSoles · 09/01/2020 12:06

It's so weird how bitter some people are towards them. Really brings out a really nasty aspect of human nature and makes you realise how easily manipulated people are by the press. Trying to pretend that she's a failure as an actress - 99% of attempted actress/actors never have an on screen role at all. No one here has the slightest idea how stressful it would be to try to start family life with all the country's press baying for your blood photoshopping photos of you to make you look bad and criticising everything you do. Harry never had the opportunity to live a normal life so can't have his cake and eat it in any sense. They have every right to step back and to imagine they could do it quietly is so stupid.

ChristmasSweet · 09/01/2020 12:08

I'm not jealous, there's no way I'd want to be an actress or part of the royal family. Being followed all the time by fans/stalkers/media? Constantly being ridiculed online or in person by people? Nah thanks. All the money in the world couldn't make that fun. Its an awful life. I can see why some of them choose to live in remote places but even that wouldn't be much fun after a while.

And that's your opinion on it, but I see her career as mediocre in comparison to others. She's done better than others by getting the part, but she's no Meryl Streep.

But hey if I'm right and this is how she plans to relaunch her career, she could star in many more movies and/or TV shows and do a good job there too.

Ponoka7 · 09/01/2020 12:08

CSIblonde
"Re their money. They paid for Frogmores furniture & all its fixtures & fittings from their own money"

MM had her own money. She was independently worth £5 million on marriage. Everything Harry had, is inherited and provided by the Empire and the Tax payers.

They then generate more wealth by investing, which usually means someone being massively exploited.

At least MM Dad won his, it was a lot more honestly gained.

CripsSandwiches · 09/01/2020 12:09

God what a nasty pack of bitches some of you are. No one has a choice in being born into the royal family and no amount of money can compensate for the lack of privacy and the hounding Harry and Megan have suffered. I wouldn't swap places with them for a second. Don't like the royal family in general but this is bloody ridiculous. They've been treated awfully.

hellsbells99 · 09/01/2020 12:10

I hope this post isn't considered in bad taste (it isn't meant to be) but William and Kate often travel as a family. If they had a fatal plane/car accident as a family, then Harry would be next in-line after Charles - this does need to be considered by both the Royal Family and Harry.

LaurieMarlow · 09/01/2020 12:12

And that's your opinion on it, but I see her career as mediocre in comparison to others. She's done better than others by getting the part, but she's no Meryl Streep.

This is exactly my point. In what other circs would you tell someone they don’t have a great career because they’re not Bill Gates? Or that they’re mediocre because Elon Musk doesn’t want their job?

It’s just downright shitty to undermine and underplay people’s achievements.

Devereux1 · 09/01/2020 12:13

CripsSandwiches
They've been treated awfully.

How so?

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