To think Harry wants to Have his cake and eat it

[Lardlizard]

If you want to leave fine, goodbye
But you can’t be half in half out !

They seem to be keeping all the benefits (bar about £2m a year) and only giving up the work.

^This. If they want to leave then just leave, but we shouldn't be expected to fund them, their security, their lifestyle, their houses, etc. They shouldn't keep their royal titles if they are no longer part of the royal family or doing any royal family duties.

Go off and be Mr. and Mrs. Formerukroyalty. Do an actual job actually earn your millions and be totally financially independent of your parents and the UK taxpayers and good luck to you!

I fully accept it is difficult to be a Royal, but how long have they given it?
They have not been married for 2 years until May. They seem to have been unwilling to work with the Royal advisors to reach a way of working to support them and now they want to jet back and forwards to Canada for private time and keep all the privileges of being royal on entirely their own terms. Who will be paying for their security - I presume it will be the British Tax Payer - not at all happy about that.
There was a comment in the news about them saying they would support The Queen, they couldn't even be bothered to show up at Christmas and announced all this without even consulting her.

I have said on here that if they really wanted a quiet life then Princess Anne would be a good role model to follow, she has done so much with her charity work to benefit ordinary people, and works behind the scenes without drawing attention to herself.

Personally, I think we should just do away with the royals, full stop. They're no longer relevant, and haven't been for decades.

At the very most, we should only keep the Queen/King, their spouse and (maybe) the next in lines immediate family.

The rest should have to be finally independent, work and pay for their own house, security, life, etc.

I actually think their behaviour, from start to last night (which unfortunately is not going to be the end), is an absolute disgrace.

In terms of his duty to us, for which he has been paid and privileged as 6th in line to the throne, and in terms of his duty to honour the Queen at this point in her life, they should both hang their heads in utter shame.

Can’t think why they’d decide they’re better off out of the royal spotlight

It’s bizzare how many people take their actions soooo personally. They both could be complete wankers but who really gives a shit? It doesn’t affect you in the slightest.

I love a bit of showbiz gossip but I don’t get carried away and think that the £1.20 I pay a year towards the royal family entitles me to dictate their behaviour within reasonable social and lawful boundaries. I’m certainly not paying enough to start scrutinising their marriages.

It follows such a boring, predictable, misogynistic pattern too; Fergie, Camilla, Waity Katy.... I think there’s too many women reluctant to give up their dreams of being a princess and take it out on the most recent poor sap to get embroiled in it all.

I hate them all so having two less is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

I particularly dislike PH and his virtue signalling whinging and I don't know how MM puts up with him, or any of them for that matter but I'm sure she will love having her freedom back along with a much higher profile. I suspect that she didn't quite realise how restricted public life is in the Monarchy and has hated turning down lots of opportunities that have likely come her way. She is a career woman after all (and that isn't an insult).

They shouldn't continue getting public money and should pay back the renovation money.

I think PH will struggle outside the royal family as he has been so coddled his entire life.

If they were really serious about it theyd hand back their titles, lose the HRH and any other expenses the taxpayer has to pay.

They wont though. Theyll use their titles to their advantage while not having the responsibilities they bring.

Theyve always wanted the trappings of Royalty without the work.

I hope they take themselves off overseas and give us all a break. Sooner the better. They're a disgrace

There was a comment in the news about them saying they would support The Queen, they couldn't even be bothered to show up at Christmas and announced all this without even consulting her.

I have said on here that if they really wanted a quiet life then Princess Anne would be a good role model to follow, she has done so much with her charity work to benefit ordinary people, and works behind the scenes without drawing attention to herself.

This is why Harry needs special PR press who share the Lucy beliefs of Harry.

Harry says one thing, Harry doesn't behave the way he tells others to behave.

Harry is not the brightest button.

Many people seem to like being lied to.

I dont know why people are engaging in this discussion if its so banal, repetitive, and annoying to them.
You can always scroll by topics that have no interest to you- noone is forcing you to engage in something you dont enjoy.

During their courtship , did the subject not come up ? Was their future role not explained to Meghan ?

Good for them. I wish them all the best.

I bet it was explained. Including the pitfalls.

But either they are arrogant enough to have thought it woild be different for them being a famous actress and popular prince.

Or they didnt fully understand.

My gut is arrogance. Purely based on their disbelief that people pulled them in their hypocrisy

I don't blame them after what they've been through the past 12 months.

I don't understand this- what have they been through? I choose not to read the kind of papers which publish stories about them, so I have no idea what has been said. Presumably they can do the same. I think it's easy to underestimate how insulated the royal family is, it's hardly like people are screaming abuse in their faces every time they leave the house.

All they had to do was quietly write a cheque for the renovations on the cottage, decline their state pocket money, step back and wind things down without making a big old show about it all

Don't be so stupid. It's all part of the vitriol. As if you can quietly step back from royal duties without telling anyone. No one is so daft!

She knew but she wanted the limelight more. Now she wants the limelight on her own terms but taking her Royal status with her. Two faced. They are not supporting the Queen at all.

I genuinely don’t care. I’ve got enough problems in my own life to care about megxit.

I think the only people who care are the idiots who enjoy reading about slebs in whatever trash magazine/newspaper they read and the ones who write the shit and make money from those idiots.

I bet not being able to write about them will hit their popularity/revenue. They’re a big source of money.

*If they were really serious about it theyd hand back their titles, lose the HRH and any other expenses the taxpayer has to pay.

They wont though. Theyll use their titles to their advantage while not having the responsibilities they bring*

Totally agree. I feel for Megan especially and the vitriol and racism she's had thrown at her and I dont blame them for wanting to step back and live their lives more privately. HOWEVER, they can't have it both ways- they either give up the titles, support themselves and retire from the roles. Or, they stay with all the privileges and carry on their duties. You can't decide to keep the advantages of royalty whilst bowing out of the work it entails. If you are serious about wanting independence then BE independent.

Exactly what I was thinking. Such a spoiled entitled brat. He wants all the benefits and perks of being royal, but not actual earn it. Yes he has had a few knocks in life. Everyone has something. But he also has hell of a lot of perks being royal!!

I am not quite sure how much leeway Harry has regsrding his nvolvement in the Royal duties etc... I imagine that the pressure on him is immense becasue of how visible both him and megham are.

More than 'Oh I can just go away and live my life as i want' I suspect they have many pressures to keep the Queen and co looking good, incl not to look ike they've kicked him out on the sidelines but not being welcoming/protective enough of Megham.

Fwiw Harry has been saying for YEARS (much before he was married to MM) that he hated his rle as a royal and would have the annonymity of ot being on them. He has also talked at length of the consequences that being a Royal had on his MH (see him having to follow his mum hearse wocrying, the paparazzi being his mum, him all the time etc etc etc). The press has been relentless on their attacks which hasnt helped.

Someone like P Anne never had the press coverage they had and therefore couod easily just sneak under the radar. There is no way those two can do that wo making a huge show out of it.

I thought they were moving to Africa? Now it's Canada?

I had never heard of Meghan before the wedding. Never seen Suits. Perhaps she can go back to being an actress and support Harry and their baby that way? Or maybe Harry can go back into the military? They can't keep their royal titles if they leave the royal family can they?

I am very sad about all of this. I haven't seen any racist comments, but then I wasn't looking or following avidly, however, my mother did make quite a shocking comment when they announced their engagement, which I challenged her on.
However, I do not think their "approach" was properly thought through and most definitely caused more issues than it solved.
In the beginning I was happy that Harry had found his special someone, as things progress I am concerned that he is being taken for a ride, even if "unintentionally".
I do agree, though, that a clear direction is required. I strongly suspect that a lot of interest would have waned, had they been clever enough to throw enough "crumbs" to the press/interested public. By playing cat and mouse they have irritated people, which is not good in their position and loses them a large percent of the sympathy vote.
It would have been preferable for Meghan, in the first few months/years, to have regarded the royal aspect as her "job" and toed the line. Having established themselves, they could have developed a "change" strategy to marry their personal requirements with those of the Royal Family in general.
They have now well and truly shot themselves in the foot as well as causing distress within the family (and I am thinking of Her Majesty, the Queen, in particular), which does nothing to support their "desired" image of being "caring" and "aware".
The whole thing could have been much better managed and have had a much more positive outcome for all concerned.

But he also has hell of a lot of perks being royal!!

I am not sure what sort of perks you think he has as a Royal but I sure as hell wouodn't want any of the responsibilities coming with that. It sounds like a nightmare to me (have to do things in x way and not any other way/have to follow the 'tradition'/have to be in the public eye and be constantlly judged all te time etc etc such as you have to wear skin colour tights otherwise you get slated when absolutely no one else in the country is following that rule is a good example)

YABU for being vague. What are you on about?

Princess Anne has had lots of press, I take it you're in your 30s like Harry?

OP I agree. If they had simply chosen to take the same route as Princess Margaret's children for example and stepped back to have a private family life that would be one thing, but it sounds like they are proposing a quasi royal life where they flit back forth across the Atlantic, taking on the royal duties they like and discounting the ones they don't, while using their name and connections for personal profit and also receiving at least some payments from the public purse.