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Do you think there's going to be a WW3?

206 replies

mmabear · 05/01/2020 21:19

Trump scares the hell out of me. Is there going to be WWIII?

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Jenasaurus · 05/01/2020 22:31

I cant believe Trumps use of Twitter

Do you think there's going to be a WW3?
Freddiefox · 05/01/2020 22:31

@SpaghettiSharon

Fair point, just get a bit fed up with sociopathic men shouting their mouths of from the comfort of their own homes.

But yes a good leader would be a start.

SansaSnark · 05/01/2020 22:32

Re Twitter, its code of conduct doesn't apply to world leaders apparently. They probably love all the hits that Trump is bringing them right now.

It would be great if a hacker could shut him up for a bit, though.

War with Iran would be a completely different prospect to Iraq or Afghanistan. I don't think Iran actively wanted a war, say, a month ago, but right now they may feel that one is coming anyway, and may act accordingly. Russia are already selling them arms. It's not impossible that Russia might supply them with some funding too. I imagine Putin would be quite keen to see the US military tied up in Iran for years.

schoolcats · 05/01/2020 22:33

Time for the men to stand aside and let the women be leaders.

Oh yes, because a woman is automatically going to be better at the job aren't they ?

chomalungma · 05/01/2020 22:33

I can see other countries wanting to build up or obtain nuclear weapons to stop countries threatening them like the USA.

Would Trump be doing this if Iran had a nuclear weapon? Or would he bank on a country not being so stupid as to fire it because it was under threat?

schoolcats · 05/01/2020 22:36

Exactly my thought! America had a massive army during Vietnam.

Didn't they kill the General in Iran from 7000 miles away ? I think future wars will be less boots on the ground and more from a distance and also cyber attacks

isabellerossignol · 05/01/2020 22:36

WW3 as in nuclear weapons? Yes - I think at some point that will be
inevitable - it's unimaginable to me that a growing number of states now openly or otherwise have access to these weapons and at some point wouldn't use them.

I don't think any country would risk it. You can't nuke another nuclear power and not get nuked back. Mutually assured destruction stopped anyone pressing the button during the cold war so hopefully the same applies today.

KatyCarrCan · 05/01/2020 22:37

No this won't be WW3.
Current US actions were suggested by their military and intelligence services. Yy Trump signed off on it but the strategy didn't originate from him. The US can be a bit gung ho regarding foreign relations but they don't usually start wars by accident and without pretending to seek international support.

PlanDeRaccordement · 05/01/2020 22:37

God no. Every generation gets to have a Middle East conflict. It’s a centuries old tradition.
And don’t worry about nukes. The only way Iran would have any is if Saddam Hussein smuggled his over the border during the last war. But everyone’s already agreed they did not exist and we only fought Iraq for oil.

mimiblack · 05/01/2020 22:39

I don't think a WW3 would happen in this day and age but I do think that America will face some sort of terrorist attack as payback. Iranians are already not big fans of the USA and the now that one of the most important people of their country has been killed, they will get their own 'revenge'.

I'm not a fan of Trump at all but this general didn't really seem like a nice guy. I've read a few interesting things about him and he seemed to be behind quite a lot of killings in Iraq...

The saddest thing of all this is the only ones who will suffer is innocent people. Trumps protected by his minions and so is Khomeni (Iran's leader). Stupid world we live in.

BritWifeinUSA · 05/01/2020 22:39

Not this year. Maybe some time on the far distant future but this situation is nowhere near WW3 proportions.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 05/01/2020 22:39

Someone should take Trumps social media away from him

Someone should take Trump away from the White House, more like.

This attack was purely to divert attention from his own crimes which are under the spotlight at the moment.

I was particularly disgusted by a photo of Trump and a clutch of evangelicals saying it was what Jesus wanted (or similar) and all standing with heads bowed and eyes closed, the hypocritical bastards.

(Because of course, if Jesus had had a kalashnikov he would have taken those Pharisees and Sadducees out in a heartbeat!)

ImGoingToBangYourHeadsTogether · 05/01/2020 22:41

Lots of strategies get suggested by military people. Planning strategies and what-if scenarios is their job. There's probably what-if scenarios planned out in case of French invasion of England! Politicians choose where to pull the trigger.

Let's not understate the importance of what the US has done here. It's the first time a major military leader of a country - bin Laden being an acknowledged terrorist and independent of countries - has been assassinated since WW2 apparently.

schoolcats · 05/01/2020 22:41

The only way Iran would have any is if Saddam Hussein smuggled his over the border during the last war.

That's striking me as very naive, that was years ago and who knows what has happened since then.

I feel concerned for Nazarin Zaghari-Ratcliffe in all of this mess.

Creepster · 05/01/2020 22:42

Trump signed off on it but the strategy didn't originate from him.

Trump replaced qualified advisors with political operatives. They then told him what he wanted to hear.
The lessons of Vietnam:
1, If you are the invader, bomber, occupier, you are the baddie.
1, Killing people never ever saves lives.

Leflic · 05/01/2020 22:43

It’s men willy whinging AGAIN. I bet if you asked all the women in Iran “ up for another war” they would say no thanks.
It’s only the men in both counteries that feel it acceptable,

Junie70 · 05/01/2020 22:43

There will always be conflict in the Middle East.

It's been going on for 1400 years to date.

chomalungma · 05/01/2020 22:44

I think future wars will be less boots on the ground and more from a distance and also cyber attacks

The USA has some very big carriers out there. 3500 personnel on board. Ships sink.

It's a hell of a risk Trump is taking if he ups the stakes here.

Leaannb · 05/01/2020 22:44

@Heresme...Iran doesn't have nuclear material because they gave it to Russia in 2016 after the JPOA was assigned. The same JPOA that Trump took is out of last year. The same JPOA that Iran said yesterday they considered null and void. Considering Putin (Russia) was the first person to comdemn Trump on the assasination it wouldn't take a giant leap to assume if it comes down to war and I mean flat out war ots going to be Iran,Iraq,Russia,N. Korea and China against the US. I don't think the EU will step in because everyone hates Trump and I don't think the UK will step up either even with trade negotiations being held over Boris's head. You guys need trade deals more with the EU than us and I don't think Boris is actually that dumb to embroil you guys in this mess. He his position is too fragile and he has better things to worry about

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 05/01/2020 22:45

The US can be a bit gung ho regarding foreign relations but they don't usually start wars by accident and without pretending to seek international support.

Except when their president is facing impeachment.

user764329056 · 05/01/2020 22:49

Chardonnay, so true

LizzeyBenett · 05/01/2020 22:49

Could very well be he is unstable apparently there are theory's that he is on speed , he was prescribed it back in the 80's and never came off it ... no idea how much merit it has but would explain his behaviour I just remember feeling an awful sense of fear when he was elected genuine fear because if anyone would start world war 3 it would be him.

Leaannb · 05/01/2020 22:51

@PlanDeRaccordement Iran sold their weapons grade Uranium to Russia for JPOA. The same JPOA that they said today they were no longer going to abide by. Putin has already said that Trump was in the wrong and should be punished and that he supported Iran.....Give Iran 3 months they will have nukes pointed at every US base in the world. Including the lovely little area you call the Midlands

ACautionaryTale · 05/01/2020 22:51

Middle East wars were guaranteed when Israel was created post WW2 0- rightly or wrongly its a state that should not exist in the way it does

And when western Christians cannot accept islamic theory as being valid

Personally I think all religion is bunkum as its the biggest cause of wars in human history

shortytrekker · 05/01/2020 22:52

@Tillymintsmama I wanted my daughter of the same age to see some news yesterday and searched bbc iPlayer for Newsround but couldn't find it. I often find their approach to be a bit more reassuring, wondering if it's no longer available.

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