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Not to invite her?

243 replies

creamcheeseandlox · 05/01/2020 09:19

I'll try to summerise. Friend A and friend b. Friend A lives across the road and we are close as friends and also our family's. Her son is in my dd's class and we have known them since the kids were in reception. They are 10/11 now. Friend b is also a school mum living in the village. Her DD and my DD are best friends. Me and friend b have become quite close over the past few years because of this and we also socialise with their family etc. Me, friend b and our daughters go on girls day trips sometimes. Last term the kids did WW2 at school and friend b suggested going to Amsterdam to see Anne Frank's house just the 4 of us as a girls weekend away. I love this idea. Her DH drunkenly mentioned this to friend A over Xmas cue me making excuses as too why I hadn't mentioned it to her but she says she would possibly want to come with her ds. Friend B wants to book this trip and we have both discussed it and said that we would like it to be a girls trip and that having friend A there with her son would change the dynamic of it and also make the accomodation more complicated as we all couldn't share a room. Our dd's are really excited about it being a girlie trip away.

One side of me is thinking that I can go away with whomever I choose and I don't have to include friend A but I also feel.bad about it and don't want to seem like we are leaving her out etc and damage our friendship.

If the situation was turned and she said to me that she was going away with her son and a friend that also has a son then I wouldn't expect to come with my daughter as it would disrupt the balance.

I don't think iabu just to want to go away with a friend and her daughter but I can't help feeling bad about it.

OP posts:
fedup21 · 07/01/2020 17:46

Have you decided what you’re going to do, @creamcheeseandlox

I was just reading this thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3788908-To-be-annoyed-about-friends-daughter-coming-along

Which made me think of you. Someone changing the dynamic of a holiday IS an issue-it matters to people.

Mollychristmas · 07/01/2020 18:15

I think it’s fine to exclude her and her son...as long as you take it on the chin when friend A and B decide they are really great friends and start to exclude you and DD, because 9 times out of 10 this is what happens in these circumstances.

Ithinkitcouldbeme · 07/01/2020 18:55

I think it would be petty and mean to exclude them. You’re all friends, the kids are the same age and get along, what’s the problem? Of course the girls don’t have to share a room with a boy, his mum can’t make other arrangements.

Maybe friend A and B will just decide to go just the four of them if you’re the one not happy with it. And I’m sure they’ll have a great time

GreenTulips · 07/01/2020 20:42

Which made me think of you. Someone changing the dynamic of a holiday IS an issue-it matters to people

That’s different - old friends reunion V mums and 10 year olds.

Not the same thing

ItsNovemberNotChristmas · 07/01/2020 20:49

It's a fucking girls trip, why should they feel guilty about not inviting a boy?!

Stabilos · 07/01/2020 21:17

YABU for using the word "girlie"

sameasiteverwasantiques · 07/01/2020 21:25

Hope you booked it with just the four of you as planned.

SaGa · 07/01/2020 23:18

YBU.
Are you prepared to lose your relationship with Friend A over this?
If I was Friend A, I would feel bad that you chose to ignore my request. She can have her own room with her son, and pay for it.

MonaLisaDoesntSmile · 08/01/2020 06:47

To be honest it's weird that you started making excuses in first place, and then for A to invite herself on a trip booked by someone else who didn't invite them.

Royallyscrewed · 08/01/2020 08:06

I don’t understand everyone’s anger towards op. Friend A was not invited, nor was her son. They weren’t invited because they were not wanted on this particular trip. I don’t get the drama- just tell her it’s been planned as a foursome and too late to change the bookings and does friend a fancy going away another time where there will more appropriate accommodation and activities for her son.

VestaTilley · 08/01/2020 09:04

It's mean to exclude them. If you do invite them though be nice and gracious about it - not sulky and passive aggressive with them all weekend because they've inadvertently crashed your weekend away.

katzenellenbogen · 08/01/2020 10:35

It's mean to exclude them

FFS they are not "excluded" - they weren't fucking invited in the first place.
Should OP invite all the other class mums? They are being "excluded" too. Except they aren't.
Did you invite a school-mum friend along on your last holiday? No, you almost certainly didn't. But how mean of you to exclude them.

FeckArseMerlot · 08/01/2020 10:44

Sometimes you want to spend a bit of time bonding with one person. I get you’d had an idea of this cosy girls trip. Everyone doesn’t have to go to everything together every time. Although can see why friend A would feel excluded and might imagine the reason was more personal. If you are certain you want to keep it just the four of you I think perhaps the only way to avoid damaging the friendship is to be completely open about the reason as she will probably see through excuses - although to be honest she might find it weird and I don’t think there’s a surefire way to avoid damaging the relationship. Might be easier just to include her.

FeckArseMerlot · 08/01/2020 10:52

Just to add, I don’t think arranging the trip without her should have been any reason for her to feel excluded, however making excuses when she suggested coming along on the trip might make her wonder what the real issue is.

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 08/01/2020 11:04

I agree it doesnt matter about the sex as with 3 adults and 3 kids you arent all going to be sharing a room anyway, it would be easy enough for them to get their own room. So I wouldn't say 'it's a girly weekend'.

I'd say that the other mum invited you and your daughter as she is your daughters best friend. Your daughters dont sound good enough friends with the son to want to go on holiday with them. If they really wanted to come though would it really ruin it? You obviously spend lots of time together anyway so must enjoy each others company and the dynamic must work usually

Daftodil · 08/01/2020 11:11

burritofan - Just how "girlie" can a WW2-inspired, Anne Frank holiday be?
😂😂😂

Personally I would just go on the trip with Friend B and suggest you and Friend A do something different with the kids another time. It's not unreasonable to go away with a friend for goodness sake! Or perhaps you should arrange a trip for the whole class and their parents just in case anyone in the school/town feels left out! There are plenty of other WW2 excursions to be had. Perhaps a visit to Bletchley Park? Or a trip to the War Museum in London? You could even just go for a nice day trip somewhere non-WW2 related!

Sorry Friend A, the trip has already been planned & booked, but we could do something else if you like. How would you feel about xxx?

Daftodil · 08/01/2020 11:17

Also, would an 11 year old boy even want to go on this trip? The 2 girls are best friends and might have completely different interests/private jokes/secrets and he might feel more excluded by going on the trip than Friend A feels by not going on it!

Xyzzzzz · 08/01/2020 11:43

Oh, now you've mentioned you'll be having lunches it all makes sense. What if she brought her son along and he ate something! Weekend ruined

😂😂

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