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AIBU?

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AIBU to be upset with SIL for not visiting baby?

190 replies

14weekspp · 05/01/2020 08:57

My SIL has still not visited our 8 month old. I was always of the opinion that when a baby is born, friends and family should visit, unless there's some specific reason why they can't. Or is it normal for the mother to have to ask to visit others (this seems to be what's expected by both SIL and MIL)?
Many and various excuses have been made, until finally things came to a head at Christmas and now DP and SIL aren't speaking because of this. Her main excuse is that she is unwell. She has had a genuine illness which began around 1.5 years ago. However, she has, since it started, gone back to work full time, and makes several trips down to where we live per year for work. The last trip was an event that took place about 5 miles from our house. She said nothing about it and we didn't find out until recently. She has also been on a foreign holiday since our baby was born, getting on a five hour flight.
The final straw was that she arranged a Christmas getaway with the rest of the family, but specifically excluding us. This was planned some distance from her house, so travelling is clearly not an issue for her.
I really have tried to see things from her perspective but I can't. Is there something I'm missing? My MIL is fully defending her and says that her work is more important than seeing her niece. It's all quite shocking to me. We even said recently that we were willing to go and see her, but have received no invitation. No response to that. AIBU?

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Peterspotter · 05/01/2020 09:52

I think her hitting the menopause is hitting her hard and the realisation she will never have kids is making her want to avoid you all.

Is she single?

Thefaceofboe · 05/01/2020 09:53

YABU - it is the birth of a baby, not the coming of the messiah

True but it’s her brothers baby. I’d be queuing up to meet my brother baby and can’t see what excuse she would have to wait over 8 months. It’s plain rude

Apolloanddaphne · 05/01/2020 09:53

She may enjoy being an aunt once your baby is a little older.

^Nope. She doesn’t get to pick and choose.

@misspiggy19 Why not? If she has issues with her own fertility being around a baby may be too hard but being around an older child may be fine.

Babies terrify some people. My paternal grandad had a deep fear of babies having lost two of his own in infancy and refused to be around any of his grandchildren until they were toddlers. He was a fab grandad.

scarecrowhead · 05/01/2020 09:54

Have you visited her ?

Fruitsaladjelly · 05/01/2020 09:55

The lack of interest in new baby is fine but the Christmas cover up would hurt me deeply

burblish · 05/01/2020 09:55

Also, what forkfun said: “It’s a social norm to visit a new baby in the family.”

It’s also about showing you care about the baby’s parents by marking and sharing in their joy at a life event that they wish to celebrate - whether you’re personally interested in babies or not.

Dieu · 05/01/2020 09:57

It's weird and hurtful. Could it be she felt that you weren't there for her, during her illness? It definitely sounds like she's got beef with someone anyway.
YANBU.

Tistheseason17 · 05/01/2020 09:57

I'd be more upset with the MIL, too, for the secret family getaway. You have a right to be seriously upset they all did that.
Why weren't you invited, OP?

14weekspp · 05/01/2020 09:58

Re the idea of it being an adults-only getaway - not so, baby's 5 year old cousin was invited. I've had a lot of helpful replies so I don't have a lot else to say, but I will add that we're not letting this dominate our lives - matters just came to a head over Christmas, with the revelation that she'd organised this thing. So, not only has she not been to visit, but she actively does not want to know the baby. This would have been the perfect opportunity, within extra effort on her part.

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brassbrass · 05/01/2020 09:58

To be honest what's more hurtful is the MIL taking her side and taking part in the great Christmas getaway cover-up, as I'm calling it

This would really make me detach from MIL. Its a very divisive way to behave and quite frankly I don't know why people think they can be so twatty and not face any consequences. Ugh shitty families.

14weekspp · 05/01/2020 09:59

I wish I knew! It was all very cloak and dagger.

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Nanny0gg · 05/01/2020 10:00

It is normal to visit close family when they've had a baby.

But what was the wider family's reasoning for excluding you from the break? Was it because you have a baby and no-one else does?

Cushycat · 05/01/2020 10:00

I dodge babies as long as I can in the family as I have not much interest in them. Maybe she is the same?

Namestranger · 05/01/2020 10:01

Are you sure it's about the baby? It sounds like she just doesn't like you! Did she visit before?

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 05/01/2020 10:01

This seems to be an issue that has now escalated. I never chased people to come visit my children. They came if/when they wanted to. So, she hasn't visited yet. I don't know why you keep pushing it. And now there appears to be a standoff of sorts and a family rift.

Just leave it.

FramingDevice · 05/01/2020 10:01

How often did you see one another before you had your baby? If you were very close and suddenly now she’s cooled off, you have a point, but otherwise you seem weirdly fixated on baby visits as ‘etiquette’.

Isn’t it also possible that everyone assumed you and your DH just didn’t want to travel at Christmas with a small baby?

Cushycat · 05/01/2020 10:01

And my current record is not seeing a child until it was 4! Big, spread out family though and we are not close as such.

FiveShelties · 05/01/2020 10:02

Have you invited her to visit?

Hoppinggreen · 05/01/2020 10:03

Every time a family member has had a baby I have been to see them within a matter of days with a gift BUT only because I felt obliged to and because it would cause great offence if I hadn’t.
I have 2 dc but I am not remotely interested in other people’s children and wouldn’t care if I never saw a baby again. Your SIL probably should have visited for the sake of politeness but she’s clearly not interested and I kind of admire her blatant lack of giving a shit
Your baby is wonderful and precious to you but people have babies all the time, it’s not that special an event to everyone else

Cushycat · 05/01/2020 10:04

Much sense spoken by Hoppinggreen.

Longwhiskers14 · 05/01/2020 10:05

Perhaps it's not your baby she has an issue with but you? I don't mean that unkindly, but how did you get on with SIL before you were pregnant?

HisBetterHalf · 05/01/2020 10:05

Does she have children of her own? What was your relationship like before you had your child?

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 05/01/2020 10:06

She’s under no obligation to visit simply because you have had a child. You’ve obviously not visited them either so no effort on that part too.

ChicCroissant · 05/01/2020 10:06

YANBU, OP. Yes, I do think it's normal to travel to see babies, even if it's not in the first few weeks then 8 months gives her enough time.

Excluding you from the holiday was also odd IMO. Not sure why no-one else in the family had mentioned it to you, even if they all didn't want a baby on the trip!

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 05/01/2020 10:07

"So, not only has she not been to visit, but she actively does not want to know the baby"

Not necessarily. This is all more to do with her than your baby. You are making it personal. The older I get the more I realise people's behaviour is often (always) nothing to do with me personally (I doubt I'm that important in many people's lives!) and all about them.

For whatever reason: upset, embarrassed she's left it too long and now it's a "thing", disinterested... Whatever, it's about her. It's not about you or your baby.

Unless there's a back story where you two were never friends before the baby?

Have you ever visited her house? It's been 8 months have you not gone to visit her in that time?

When I had babies some people visited us, we visited some people. I didn't keep track.