To think that there are too many personal insults and attacks on Tory voters

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I’m really sick of it now. I don’t log on here to be called a cunt, told I hate disabled people and want to ruin the NHS.

I’m interested as to whether others feel the same or if it is just me. If it’s just me, I think I’ll piss off.

MaButterface I still have to disagree with you, There is more to this than language and name calling. It is about morals. Voting for misery, austerity etc is worse than dropping the c bomb. Labour voters such as myself dislike selfish, heartless Tories for their view on society. Having low morals is worse than swearing.

I think maybe we need an abbreviation for “I don’t believe in using personal insults” so those of us who don’t can preface our posts to that effect. IDBUPI?
Anyway. I think the problem is that people hold their political views for reasons on a spectrum from completely visceral to completely pragmatic. For people on the left the visceral feeling starts immediately you move to the left of centre, while for the right, there’s a lot of pragmatists before you reach the visceral. Generally the visceral right wingers are very much to the right of mainstream Tory voters, and many Tories have as much of a problem with them as Labour people
do. Visceral left wingers don’t understand how anyone can vote pragmatically and feel it’s immoral to and pragmatic right wingers don’t understand how anyone can vote in a way that seems to be against their personal best interest. Which is why last wingers tend to get angrier.

Mayliss

"Oh and please don't call things said on an anonymous website abuse)"

Why not? Abuse is abuse whether it's written in letter, email, on a forum or face to face. Its probably done more online because the person can hide behind a keyboard and do it anonymously and therefore try not to take any responsibility for it. Saying it on a website doesn't it make it any less hurtful and any less abusive than saying it face to face. Dont make excuses for verbal abuse by saying it isn't abuse because it's on a website.

I'm truly shocked that there are posters on here who seem to think that verbally abusing people online is ok. That because they voted a certain way, they deserve it and should take responsibility for what they get, that because its online, it's not abuse. Its shocking. Abuse is not ok, name calling and personal insults are not ok and condoning it is not ok.

Labour was no better than the Tories at the last election. For anyone repeating the fairy tale that Labour would help the poorest, those days are long gone. The reality is the manifesto said something rather different, with only £8billion extra earmarked for welfare by 2024. This tiny amount was also to cover the however many £billions it would cost to develop a new replacement for UC. Which would result in 3 systems being used at once so if you thought the chaos of the UC introduction was bad it'd have nothing on the result of Labour's plans. Oh, and the wages for I think it was 25,000 new DWP staff would also come out of that £8billion. No chance of the food banks going out of business there then. But Labour thought £1000s of billions would be far better spent on free broadband and playing real life monopoly rather than filling stomachs.

Then you'll condemn it when it comes from the Tory side?

Ah no you didn't.

Mayliss, I barely got involved in the political debates (mud slinging) as I could see how the threads were going to didn't want to get involved. I don't condone any form of verbal abuse and neither should anyone. Other people condoning it doesn't mean you have to.

I don't understand why anyone needs to broadcast who they voted for.
If anyone asks me I always tell them it's between me and the ballot box.
We live in a democracy fortunately and I respect other people's voting choices, whether I agree with their choice or not.
I'm always happy to have a healthy political debate without name calling and ramming my opinion down throats, or being abusive towards the voter or their chosen party.

I don't call people anything abusive ever. I don't even swear in real life. Best to stick to arguments. However as there were so many labour mumsnetters posting before the election I thought it was helpful that some of us who support the Conservative party did disclose that because otherwise some people unsure how to vote might have thought the only trendy mumsnetter way to vote was Labour, which clearly it wasn't.

There were oodles of pro tory threads Xenia.

My heart bleeds

Irony of this thread calling labour voters brainwashed when the majority of the main stream media wanted a Tory government and that's exactly what they got.

Yanbu I personally vote labour and don’t agree with Tory polices however I think people should be ale to vote for who they want and not be judged.