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To think that there are too many personal insults and attacks on Tory voters

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Soimblue · 22/12/2019 14:20

I’m really sick of it now. I don’t log on here to be called a cunt, told I hate disabled people and want to ruin the NHS.

I’m interested as to whether others feel the same or if it is just me. If it’s just me, I think I’ll piss off.

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malylis · 26/12/2019 12:33

But you need to stop pretending you are victims (oh and please don't call things said on an anonymous website abuse).

I have never said that people are cunts, what I do think is going on is that people are made to think that they are being oppressed, when they aren't.

The narrative that comes out all the time from the last three years is that people voted against the losing side rather than for the winning side because they were insulted. This absolves people from responsibility for their actions, it wasn't Boris that was good it was Corbyn that was bad, ditto Trump, ditto Brexit. In the end you are going to have to own responsibility for what comes rather than taking none and blaming others for your own actions and the results of them.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 26/12/2019 12:34

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RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 26/12/2019 12:40

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/12/2019 12:41

I've seen whole discussion groups on FB destroyed by right wing members who gang up on left leaning voters

Oh, the irony ...

SingingLily · 26/12/2019 12:45

But you need to stop pretending you are victims (oh and please don't call things said on an anonymous website abuse).

I was asked at the last moment to do teller duties on GE day. There was only myself and the LibDem teller (we actually got on very well, had a laugh and a joke, and agreed to share duties in a non-partisan way). No one showed up from the Labour Party.

Voting was brisk. Only two voters felt it imperative to advertise their political allegiance. Both wore huge red rosettes. One called me a Tory bitch as he walked past me. The other one clearly regarded me as a "mother figure" which was confusing as he was older than me. Well, that's what he seemed to he mutter under his breath so I might have misheard.

Neither knew me from Adam. Or Eve, for that matter.

Neither of them could even make eye contact.

Both scurried past me, their heads down, on their way out.

A kinder gentler politics, eh?

malylis · 26/12/2019 12:47

Wow your internet searches really pulled up officially labour party links not just tenuous links with individuals (oh and using guido as a source, well done).

SingingLily · 26/12/2019 12:49

using guido as a source, well done).

Agree, well done. Because one of the really great things about Guido is that his information is meticulously sourced as accurate. If he's not sure, he says so. If he's absolutely certain, there is video or text evidence.

Love Guido.

malylis · 26/12/2019 12:50

Two people made remarks out of whole day and you then use it to make your point that you are a victim?

Hahahahaha

malylis · 26/12/2019 12:51

Guido is not accurate and is partisan.

malylis · 26/12/2019 12:52

even the first one on that list is inaccurate.

Funny as fuck

SingingLily · 26/12/2019 12:52

Two people of the same political persuasion, and they targeted me, not the LibDem teller.

You wanted real life evidence of people personally abusing Tories, not posts on an Internet forum.

You got it.

Ofthread · 26/12/2019 12:52

@RunningAwaywiththeCircus Yup, I'm putting it in very simple terms in order that these underlying ideologies - which, at their core, are fairly straightforward - are plain to those on this thread who do not seem to understand the core differences.

malylis · 26/12/2019 12:53

www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/guido-fawkes/%3famp

Guido media bias

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 26/12/2019 12:54

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malylis · 26/12/2019 12:56

right back at you, being called thick, or a terrorist lover etc by Tory voters at a hustings in this election campaign , oh and scrounger by another

As said the abuse is on both sides, just the Tories and brexiters pretend they are victims.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 26/12/2019 12:57

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otterturk · 26/12/2019 12:58

Guido is a mate and well known to be on the right. But, he isn't a Tory party supporter, nor Brexit, and criticises both these parties as well as the left.

malylis · 26/12/2019 12:59

Not lazy.

Painting Corbyn as a terrorist sympathiser is lazy, especially when far right links (and links to regiemes that fund terrorism) go uncommented upon on the conservative side.

SingingLily · 26/12/2019 13:03

Painting Corbyn as a terrorist sympathiser is lazy,

And yet two million people who voted Labour in 2017 decided to vote for another party in 2019, even though their decision was clearly not determined solely by their position on Brexit.

Two million individuals reaching the same conclusion.

It's a mystery, isn't it?

malylis · 26/12/2019 13:03

Guido is partisan and misrepresents a lot. As do lots of the right wing media.

Lets look at no 1 on that list.

Two people who had been accused of IRA activities and served time were invited prior to the bombing to discus prison conditions, in context this was the era where political prisoner status was removed and hunger strikes were going on. Corbyn was the MP with the second largest number of Irish nationals in his constituency outside of northern ireland.

So no two terrorists were not invited two weeks after the bombing, and it did not show he sided with terrorists.

malylis · 26/12/2019 13:05

Yet the conservatives didn't gain 2 million votes, suggests other issues too doesn't it.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 26/12/2019 13:05

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Ofthread · 26/12/2019 13:05

@SingingLily A quote from the Telegraph is a little disingenuous here. Obviously the Tories are keen to appear to be changing, that doesn't negate their core ideology - conservatism, resistance to change. It's written into everything they do.

'Calling each other names will not help us to reach that, not one jot.': Who is calling each other names? I'll give you some points in the 'I'm being superior to you on the internet' game if you want.