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To think all conservative voters aren't thinking of others?

331 replies

TheGoogleMum · 14/12/2019 11:46

I realise this doesn't convert anyone and at this point I'm not trying to. But I just don't think anyone who really cares for the welfare of others votes conservative. We know.chikd poverty is highest for 60 years, people are actually dying due to underfunding services (I can link to the research on this if needed). So conservative voters have prioritised brexit and their dislike for Jeremy Corbyn over actually helping others. Whatever way you look at it it wasn't the kind option. Realise I will get flamed for this but it's just how i feel. It's the cruel party and I'm ashamed to be British right now with how everyone voted. Also they had such a dodgy deceitful campaign and as it was rewarded I guess that's the future of politics now :/
I'm not sad labour didn't win, they were never going to. I'm sad at how much conservatives won by as the selfish option that's basically saying it's fine for everything to continue being awful for those struggling.

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Tubridy · 14/12/2019 11:48

You're not in the least unreasonable. The Tory slogan has always been 'I'm all right, Jack'.

Didntwanttochangemyname · 14/12/2019 11:48
Biscuit
Xenia · 14/12/2019 11:50

Wrong there. Labour waste all the money and run out of money to care for the poor. The Tories conserve the money and spend it well on public services and ensure the less well off are looked after. The voter agree with that too of course.

The left is just bad at caring for people and running an economy.

avocadoze · 14/12/2019 11:55

Crown Biscuit fed up of people attempting to divide us into tribes. Good and bad people, selfish and selfless people, wealthy and poor people vote for a variety of candidates. Perhaps some of the people “thinking of others” were thinking of Jewish friends who feared a Corbyn-led government. Maybe others didn’t want the break-up of the UK so opted not to vote SNP. Some more might have objected to the Lib Dem policies on women’s rights, so didn’t vote for them.

If you’re looking for an echo chamber where everyone will reassure you that the election result was a hideous mistake driven by selfishness and greed, Twitter’s over there.

MidnightCircus · 14/12/2019 11:55

Feel better now?
As a side note, why do Labour voters look down on Tory voters but you so rarely see Tory voters take the moral high ground in the same way? It's not a way to win people to vote for a party

Marleyisme · 14/12/2019 11:56

Yawn.....this attitude from other labour voters pisses me off.

This attitude from the top, down, is why we bloody lost.

I know people who voted all sorts of ways. Non voted Tory because they dont care most people I know voted tory, because labour would be a disaster for their company. Given it employs a couple fo thousands people, their concern was for what happens to their employees.

bellinisurge · 14/12/2019 11:58

Thinking only you know the sacred truth and everyone else is stupid and horrible....is what got Corbyn Labour into this mess.

Cornettoninja · 14/12/2019 11:58

I would usually take the same view but there are a hell of a lot of people who I would have thought would never have voted Tory who did.

In the usual run up to the election ‘man on the street’ interviews I saw an unemployed with children couple being interviewed in one of those bargain basement shops that sells food after it’s best before date adamant they were voting Tory. I truly don’t understand how they can think the government that has had power in this country for the last decade and invariably led them to the situation they’re in will ever be considering their needs. It’s mind boggling how blinkered some people are around brexit.

But then the same thing happened in the 80’s/90’s 🤷‍♀️ I can only continue to believe in my own moral compass and follow what I believe is right.

It reminds me of the popular saying about Americans and their attitudes towards politics, even the poor and vulnerable lean right because nobody is poor they’re ‘temporarily embarrassed millionaires’. The logic is they will benefit from the vast amounts of wealth floating around the country by pure coincidence of living there. I suppose no one wants to think of themselves as not included in the rhetoric.

Marleyisme · 14/12/2019 11:58

Oh and I do some labour voters who didnt give a shit about the issues, wether it was viable or not the potential consequences. They just didnt want Tories. They gave no shits for the people.

They just hate the tories. I live in an ex mining area where this attitude is prevalent.

However they are slowly losing their majority. Mayne labour need to look at why that is.

Cornettoninja · 14/12/2019 12:00

Sorry Xenia this ensure the less well off are looked after is just not true. It’s not speculation, it’s fact.

OneDay10 · 14/12/2019 12:00

Fgs another thread. Accept it and move on.

BrotherlyLove · 14/12/2019 12:00

This is so fucking boring now.

Infinityandbeyondthestars · 14/12/2019 12:01

Oh give it a bloody rest. It's such ignorant and arrogant attitude.

TryingAndFailing39 · 14/12/2019 12:01

HmmXmas Biscuit

Gatehouse77 · 14/12/2019 12:01

If only life was so simple and black and white.

Would all Labour supporters like to be called anti-semitic because of what's gone on their party...?
Are all Lib Dems anti-democratic because they wanted to revoke Article 50?

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 14/12/2019 12:02

I didn’t vote Tory because of brexit or the leader of the opposition. I voted for them for a better future for children.

They encourage person responsibility, which is far better for the next generation than more benefits imo.

Far too easy to blame everything on the government than look closer to home. Nobody has to have children and if they do they should be aware of the costs involved and ensure they can meet them.

coconuttelegraph · 14/12/2019 12:03

As soon as you use the word all you've lost your argument. It's patently ridiculous to suggest that all voters for any party think exactly the same way. You don't really think millions of people all think the same do you?

Illeana · 14/12/2019 12:03

I freely admit I’m not selfless. I’ve struggled all my life trying to improve my situation, I’m not well off and I want to keep what little I have. Not selflessly give it away and be even poorer.

easyandy101 · 14/12/2019 12:03

People don't act with evil in their hearts as often as many people seem to believe

Most people who voted for the conservatives did so because they thought it best for the country, as did most labour voters

I know it's easy to think con=evil but it's doing society no favours

Baaaahhhhh · 14/12/2019 12:03

people are actually dying due to underfunding services (I can link to the research on this if needed)

Yes please. Because I haven't been able to find any credible evidence that death rates have risen.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregistrationsummarytables/2018

TheGoogleMum · 14/12/2019 12:05

Austerity kills bmjopen.bmj.com/content/7/11/e017722 don't know how people can just ignore that and sleep at night!

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Reallybadidea · 14/12/2019 12:06

As a family we will probably benefit from a Conservative government. We'll probably pay less in tax, we have private healthcare paid for by our employers, we live in an area with good schools and have the money to pay extra for any gaps.

We still voted against the Tories because we believe that they will be bad for those less fortunate and society as a whole. At the moment I'm wondering why we bothered to be honest.

DowntownAbby · 14/12/2019 12:06

Oh sod off, OP.

HenSolo · 14/12/2019 12:07

The Tories conserve the money and spend it well on public services and ensure the less well off are looked after

Hi Boris!

Those who think it’s boring, jog on then. No one makes you comment.

I’m pleased to see people getting angry about the Tory majority. We are not a good and decent country at the moment.

NailsNeedDoing · 14/12/2019 12:07

Your logic doesn’t make sense. Many of the people who will have voted Tory have previously opted for labour, they’re the same people whose attitudes won’t have changed that much. I think many of those bites that have swung will have done so because of Brexit, and I’d agree that that’s quite selfish because of the negative effect that brexit has had and will continue to have on so many people. But no one is obliged to think of other people when they vote, it’s perfectly acceptable for people to vote in the interests of the own family. And considering how many votes the conservatives got, that’s a lot of normal families!

You can easily be a kind, thoughtful and generous person and still believe that the Labour manifesto was just too far fetched, with valid reason.

I didn’t vote Tory btw.