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Who wants to take a bet on what they will invite The People to bring back first?

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ReanimatedSGB · 13/12/2019 18:59

Workhouses or the death penalty? I can see the People's Government deciding that either or both would be a good way to further entrench their power...

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FriedasCarLoad · 14/12/2019 09:12

*And, finally, his appearance this morning in front of banners declaring him and his gang of vicious shitheads the People's Government? Doesn't it smell to you, even faintly, of 'Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein

Actually the presumptuous and ominous use of “the people’s x” reminds me first of Tony Blair.

FriedasCarLoad · 14/12/2019 09:19

What this election has brought home to me is that most people are very poorly informed.

*Disclaimer: this might not apply to Brexit. All anyone can be expected to know about that is that it’s an utter arse of an idea. Beyond that, the complexity of it is a complete

I considered myself better informed than most (read the Economist, read a couple of different broadsheets each week, chatted to friends who were experts in different areas).

Yet I didn’t feel informed enough to vote in the referendum without extra effort. I spent hundreds of hours reading - not newspapers, but treaties, reports, research papers etc.

I was a remainer before I looked into it in depth. After all that reading, I voted leave.

I realise that plenty of well-informed people weren’t remainders, but there are good arguments on both sides.

Wish I had that much time to read, now!

KenDodd · 14/12/2019 09:52

FriedasCarLoad
Did you read any Irish history?
I did, (knew nothing about it before) and voted Remain.

DontPetTheSweatyStuff · 14/12/2019 10:08

@WeArnottamused My ex stayed at Emmaus in Cambridge for about 4 years. Believe me, he had a good run! Yes, they get paid a JSA rate for 40 hours work but! He also got his rent paid, 3 hot meals a day, trained in areas such as PAT testing electricals and growing and cooking food from scratch. He got customer service experience and a chance to get qualified in that.
He had on hand support for anything related to his health/mental health. Accompanied to hospital appointments and 4 weeks a year holiday with a travel allowance for him to get to wherever he wanted to go on his time off.
They also offered to put him through his driving lessons and test at their expense.

DisorganisedOrganiser · 14/12/2019 10:16

Same as PPs:-
Workhouses and the death penalty

I’ll add:-
Making abortion illegal or at least limiting access
Bringing back the time before we had an NHS that treats almost everybody and is free at the point of use

These last two will be done by stealth.

ReanimatedSGB · 14/12/2019 10:27

I think they may well go after women's rights, particularly reproductive rights, fairly soon. Johnson, after all, isn't going to be very keen on strengthening, or keeping, the laws against domestic violence...

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DisorganisedOrganiser · 14/12/2019 10:30

No, and the USA is showing us how easy it is to go after those rights. I think there is a huge amount of (as yet unspoken) public support to lower abortion limits or even criminalise it. Sincerely hope I am wrong. I was very pleasantly surprised to be wrong about how NI voted so maybe I am worrying about nothing.

lljkk · 14/12/2019 10:54

"Get Back to Basics" sure bit the Tories in the arse.

randomchap · 14/12/2019 10:59

Having a requirement for id at polling stations will disenfranchise millions. not a great thing

ScreamingValalalalahLalalalah · 14/12/2019 11:01

Labour voter here, but I wouldn't mind a return to imperial measurements. I can 'picture ' ounces, pounds, stones, inches and feet in a way I have never managed with their metric equivalents.

Transitioning back to imperial currency probably wouldn't be as bad as you'd think. My DH is old enough to remember 'Decimal Day' in 1971 and says everyone was used to the new money within a matter of weeks. The value of the £1 was a constant, only its division changed, so it doesn't impact the wider economy.

RipleysCat · 14/12/2019 11:10

I think the slow degeneration of the UK will continue, low wages, crap underfunded public services etc.
Not sure about the workhouses and capital punishment.
But Workers rights will be targeted, due to the Britannia unchained bunch having positions of power in the Party, and unleash Britain’s potential sounds to me like you’ll be working all the hours god sends just to make ends meet.
And this Government doesn’t seem to like Judicial oversight for some reason, can’t think why Hmm so I’m guessing there’ll be some work going on there.
Am hoping that Boris will take a more centrist stand now he has a majority, but I won’t hold my breath.

ForalltheSaints · 14/12/2019 11:16

Neither, but are not food banks a workhouse style form of welfare by proxy?

easyandy101 · 14/12/2019 11:23

10 pack cigarettes 😍

EsmeShelby · 14/12/2019 11:28

Hunting, hanging and homophobia.
All likely to be returning. Look at the leadership.

Laterthanyouthink · 14/12/2019 11:39

@WeArnottamused

Thanks for that link describing Emmaus, I had never heard of them. I think you are right and this will be expanded as well as food banks in next five years. Most people don't acknowledge that it is an accident of birth that greatly affects how your life turns out. Choose your parents well!

messolini9 · 14/12/2019 11:48

I don't think the death penalty could ever be brought back, even Johnson isn't that much of a twat.

I think he is actually.
To him & his ilk, politics is just a game. 'How much can we get away with, what lies will the suckers accept next, isn't it hilarious when I claim that black is white, then that white is black, yet have so much power & media control/complicity that I need not accept consequences like an ordinary pleb.'

They've read all the "How To" texts such as Machiavelli, they have the PR & spin machines in place, & I can see Johnson doing something like this just for the hell of it. As per Orwell - "Because we can" ...

Horrible food for thought @ReanimatedSGB.
Especially as, given the choice, the UK would vote YES to hanging.
Certain senior politicians have behaved so immorally, & have acted so divisively that it has given 'permission' to others to indulge themselves in hate & short-sightedness while wallowing in tabloid headlines that are entirely fictitious & designed to keep the populace divided & at each others' throats.

Because if we're all kept angry & fighting each other, it's harder for us to remember who the actual culprits are, & hold them to account. Johnson's casual racism, snobbery & indifference to the plight of 'lesser beings' is designed to do just that - distract the credulous, infuriate the liberals, & make sure the country is too busy in-fighting to notice what he's really up to.

PlomBear · 14/12/2019 11:52

I’ve been saying for ages that a form of the workhouse will be resurrected.

Xenia · 14/12/2019 11:52

We Conservatives have no desire to bring back the death penalty. BJ is pretty liberal on many issues and this Tory party is very middle of the road. itis just the far left Labout party is just a bit cross at the moment as they lost. I know all of us now do want to pull together and run the country both for those who voted Tory and everyone else.

The British public is very sensible and voted for the better party.

JacquesHammer · 14/12/2019 11:53

We Conservatives have no desire to bring back the death penalty

My Tory MP wants to bring back the death penalty...

Originalyellowbelly · 14/12/2019 11:56

I wouldn't like capital punishment bringing back but I would like to see "life" meaning life as in anyone convicted of a crime meriting a life sentence being kept in prison until they die rather than being let out after ten or so years.

messolini9 · 14/12/2019 12:02

For all the twats saying 'calm down dear' - well it's hard to read history books when your head is firmly wedged in the sand.

This sort of absurd hyperbole on the part of the far left

What "far left"?
You see how you are doing it yourself @BarbaraStrozzi?
You see a post which you can deduce is anti-Johnson, & immediately launch into a knee-jerk triangulation by assuming that the OP must be some kind of frithing-mouthed Trotskyite.

You presumably have done some history at school & at the very least can remember what happened in 1960's China, 1930's Germany, 1990's Rwanda ..?
It is terrifyingly easy for corrupt leaders to galvanise people into astonishing levels of hatred, murder & war. Just hanging a few "undesirables" would be a walk in the park by comparison.

Believing anything else, or that "it couldn't happen here" is just complacency, mixed with an alarming & distasteful 'I'm All Right Jack' tendency.

CactusAndCacti · 14/12/2019 12:03

Lots of people support a death penalty, therefore there will also be lots of Tory members / voters who support it.

messolini9 · 14/12/2019 12:04

(frothing-mouthed! No idea what frithing is ...)

messolini9 · 14/12/2019 12:08

I’ve been saying for ages that a form of the workhouse will be resurrected.

Exactly, @PlomBear - complete with an invented narrative about the Deserving vs: Undeserving Poor.

It worked for the C16th Elizabethans, & according to the tabloids, the concept is already well underway for us New Elizabethans.

LA115 · 14/12/2019 12:16

Ffs get a life

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