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Will the UK now accept the vote

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Gin96 · 13/12/2019 10:16

And move on with a united country, can we stop bickering and accept what people have voted for?

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hsegfiugseskufh · 13/12/2019 11:40

I can't believe how patronising people are towards those who voted Tory and for Brexit

just as patronising as the people who voted tory are being towards those who voted labour and remain.

There has been thread after thread about how naïve, stupid etc etc anyone who voted for labour has been this morning. Both sides are as bad as each other.

I have seen just as many vile comments from people who voted tory as I have from those who voted labour.

RhinoskinhaveI · 13/12/2019 11:41

There has just been a landslide vote in favour of leaving the EU, and people are talking about campaigning to rejoin?

Pumperthepumper · 13/12/2019 11:41

I can’t believe how quickly we’re back to ‘control our borders, stop immigration’. Absolutely shameful.

KidLorneRoll · 13/12/2019 11:42

The result is what it is and has to be accepted.

Doesn't mean people have to be happy about it. The only thing left is to hope that Boris doesn't fuck the country up too much, and that we get a credible opposition to fight the next GE. Scottish independence would be a bonus as well.

Pumperthepumper · 13/12/2019 11:42

There has just been a landslide vote in favour of leaving the EU, and people are talking about campaigning to rejoin?

Explain this landslide to me.

Miljea · 13/12/2019 11:42

Well, at least Boris the Clown can, with this majority, step away from a No Deal or hard Brexit.

Sure, basically we'll get BRINO, having to obey all EU trade laws in order to trade with them, and obviously it makes no sense to have basically voted to lose ones place as a rule maker at the top table in favour of being a rule taker, but that, apparently is what The People want.

Kazzyhoward · 13/12/2019 11:43

We want to control our borders - we always had the right to do this, we chose not to

Correction - the LABOUR government at that time chose not to.

NiteFlights · 13/12/2019 11:43

Well, yes and no, but I do think that although looking at percentages may be interesting it’s ultimately irrelevant in a FPTP GE.

I think Brexit is a huge mistake and do not accept that there are any decent arguments in favour of it. However, the Tories campaigned on ‘getting Brexit done’ and have been given a huge majority. So to my mind that is a democratic Brexit mandate and I feel more resigned to it now.

As time goes on I hope the government will be held fully responsible for the shitstorm that Brexit will unleash on us. No more blaming the EU. No more blaming each other. Hold the government responsible.

Bibby26 · 13/12/2019 11:44

Thanks @ForeverbyJudyBlume I shall be doing that indeed Smile

Miljea · 13/12/2019 11:44

Rhino people are talking about rejoining their EU because more people voted for definite Remain parties, or the Second Referendum party than who voted for BoJo and Farrargo.

hsegfiugseskufh · 13/12/2019 11:45

rhino there hasn't though, has there? it wasn't a do you want Brexit, yes or no?

we have already voted to leave, that wasn't another chance to change it.

AlexaShutUp · 13/12/2019 11:45

Perhaps pay some attention to what people who aren't under 30 and don't live in London/Bristol/Oxford think.

I'm mid forties and live in a medium-sized town in the Midlands. I still think Boris and Brexit will be a disaster, and so do most of my family and friends. However, I do accept that I tend to socialise with relatively intelligent, educated people who aren't representative of the electorate as a whole.

PoisoningPigeons · 13/12/2019 11:46

Can I just draw everyone's attention to this? GrinGrinGrin

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Alsohuman · 13/12/2019 11:46

I believe the vast majority, on MN, are not old enough to remember life before we joined the Common Market. It wasn't all death, doom and gloom

I remember it. But you can’t seriously compare leaving to the situation before we joined 40 odd years ago. The world’s a completely different place now.

LavenderandBeeswax · 13/12/2019 11:48

We want to control our borders
We want to control immigration
We want to make our own laws in our own country
We want to decide our own future, and not have it inflicted on us from the EU
We want to be an independent nation again, like 85% of the rest of the world.
What don't you understand??????
I am a remainer, and even I know all of this!!!!

I'm embarrassed for you that you are pretending to be a Remainer while spouting bollocks like that.

Sportsnight · 13/12/2019 11:50

Nope, we’ve got to accept it. I thought there was less support for Brexit than there is. I don’t think I’ll ever think it is a good idea, but it will happen now. Johnson has a large enough majority to push it through without agreement, so the deal will go through by the end of January. But it’s not going to be an instant thing - we’re then going to spend the best part of 10 years negotiating the trade deal.

Alpacathebag · 13/12/2019 11:50

Well that’s an ironic result...

Will the UK now accept the vote
Election2019 · 13/12/2019 11:51

I think it should be accepted but I don’t think it will be and any negatives will be immediately and gleefully brought to everyone’s attention.

Chocpear · 13/12/2019 11:52

I accept they won last night, that’s democracy. But I will not accept Conservatives love of the free market, values and pivot to forming closer ties to the USA with us as the smaller partner.

Spacebowlisback · 13/12/2019 11:52

I do accept this is what most people want. I am all the more heartbroken for it.

Merryhobnobs · 13/12/2019 11:53

You are speaking from a solely English perspective. Look at the map. Britain is far, far from United. Brexit is pushing us towards the breakup of the United Kingdom. I am sad. I am Scottish (and will now hope and vote for independence) but my husband is Northern Irish. My children are British... But I don't see a way out of this now. What a mess.

ShouldI101 · 13/12/2019 11:53

I respect the vote. I accept that the majority of people in the UK want to leave the EU and want to be governed by the Conservative Party. It's absolutely not my choice but there you go.

I am in Scotland. An independent Scotland would never have been my first choice but it's the my best choice right now. I will be campaigning for an independence referendum now, and will vote Yes, having been against it all my adult life until today.

How times change.

Skyejuly · 13/12/2019 11:54

I would consider moving to Scotland.

Unusualsuspicion · 13/12/2019 11:54

Only 45% of voters voted for the Tories or the Brexit party yesterday. We have a profoundly undemocratic first-past-the-post system that effectively disenfranchises vast swathes of the population. We seem to be stuck with it, but don't start giving me crap about the 'will of the people' when that's far from a settled question.

And I'm also mystified by the number of people who seem to think that democracy involves voting every five or so years then shutting up for the interim.

All I can say is I deeply hope the Brexit-heavy North of England will not live to regret entrusting their vote to a party who gives not the slightest shit about them. 'We told you so' will be cold comfort.

handmedownqueen · 13/12/2019 11:54

I am increasingly content with this result. Lots of us LP members had grave concerns about Corbyn's manifesto. People in Burnley/Blyth/Redcar and others have been told by people like me that Brexit and a Tory Govt will be a disaster and they have rejected that. So if after Brexit Johnson can sort out investment/unemployment and poverty in these towns that's great.
At least there is a clear majority to allow decisions to be made and maybe he will divest himself of the right wing of his party and is moderate and socially liberal as some say he is.
I think the Sturgeon v Johnson battle will be seismic and Northern Ireland is on the brink of major change and I hope power sharing can be restored.
I am pleased to live in Merseyside where both wealthy and poorer communities have all stayed Labour. And I hope we see positive change as there needed to be a major change as the past three years have been awful for democracy.

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