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Will the UK now accept the vote

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Gin96 · 13/12/2019 10:16

And move on with a united country, can we stop bickering and accept what people have voted for?

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Nonnymum · 18/12/2019 09:04

ReanimatedSGB I agree I've never worked out what the problem is they leavers say the EU caused or how being out of it will change peoples lives for the better.Before the 2016 campaign the EU wasn't something most people even cared about. They spoke about housing, wages, welfare, the NHS, transport etc. Since the clever but nasty leave campaign all those thungs seem to have been conflated with the EU and immigration.

Nonnymum · 18/12/2019 09:12

it wasn't all death, doom and gloom.
I am old enough to remember life before the EU and firstly its a flawed argument to say it was ok before we joinwd the EU because we were all living in very different times then secondly it really was not great! Workers had few rights, produce wasn't as freely available and we were a very insular country I don't want to go back to that. We joined the EU for economic reasons and we have become richer economically and culturally since being in it. I am very sad we are going backwards.

Equanimitas · 18/12/2019 14:14

I really do wonder what people will blame for their problems once they can no longer blame the EU. ..which was never the cause of their problems in the first place.

They'll blame those dreadful Europeans for not giving us the identical deal we could have had if we had stayed in the EU.

I do quite look forward to the reactions of the racists who firmly believe that, come Brexit, all foreigners will be forced to leave the country and that there will be no more non-white immigration.

Kazzyhoward · 18/12/2019 14:29

We joined the EU for economic reasons and we have become richer economically and culturally since being in it.

No. We joined the EEC for economic reasons. The middle E" stood for Economic. It was sold to us as a trading benefit. However, without any reference back to the public, it morphed into the EU which is a political union and extended to many things that had nothing to do with economic issues. As more and more powers were granted to Europe by our Parliament (without reference to the voters), the anti-EU feeling increased, culminating in the current position. If we were still in the same "EEC" that we originally voted for, all those decades ago, we'd probably be happy.

midsomermurderess · 18/12/2019 14:57

Not we didn't 'Kazzy', people were well aware it involved more that merely 'trading,' as you put it, 40 some years ago. And you can't have a level paying field for trade with out standardisation of a large number of areas of activity.

HeronLanyon · 18/12/2019 15:00

Sterling has nosedived today as markets start to realise a very hard brexit is on the cards due to Johnson setting out his ‘negotiation’ timetable (which is impossible). Just don’t understand why voters didn’t believe him and see the consequences and/or if they did why on Earth they would have voted for this.

ReanimatedSGB · 18/12/2019 15:56

Funny, that. The 'rise' in sterling coinciding with Fucko's election victory, followed by a sharp fall, days later. Given that such big variations are where the currency gamblers (like, you know, an awful lot of those who backed and funded the Leave campaign) make large chunks of money. You might almost want to wonder if they fixed it to happen that way...

BlaueLagune · 18/12/2019 15:59

If we were still in the same "EEC" that we originally voted for, all those decades ago, we'd probably be happy

If that were the case people would be happy to stay in the customs union. But they appear not to be.

MAFIL · 18/12/2019 19:26

I don't think many, if any, of us know what the true impact of leaving the EU will be. At best we will each have an idea of some of the likely effects. Unfortunately the elements I know about fill me with dread. My DH has been one of the UK representatives for his industry on multiple EU working parties and is extremely worried about the impact of Brexit. For reasons which are too long and complex and probably too outing to go into here, it seems almost certain that the industry will continue to adhere to EU regulations for the foreseeable future. Except we are losing our seat at the table where they are determined. It isn't likely to end well. Let's hope my DH's field is the only one where that is going to happen. It probably isn't though.

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