Will the UK now accept the vote

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And move on with a united country, can we stop bickering and accept what people have voted for?

Pumper, explain to me why you think it wasn't a landslide
thanks 😊👍

It’s your statement @RhinoskinhaveI - you explain it.

If you can.

I will be trying to take my professional skills elsewhere
Understandable Leith walk, but what are your options, is there a country that shares your values and where you won't feel like an outsider?

I'm continuing to look into it - but know I have work to do, of course Brexit may limit my choices too.

If it was so good before, why have we endured so much austerity.

I can't get over this, it just makes me lose all hope. People voting in the Tories to get us out of the EU because they are fed up with austerity - a Tory policy and nothing to do with the EU.

And then we are told to respect people's "good reasons" for voting Tory 🤦‍♀️

That was a general election and not a vote on brexit. I will never accept that leaving will benefit our country.

The sad irony is that if the Remain MPs hadn’t been so obstructive, and had supported some of Teresa May’s soft Brexit deals, we would never have had Boris and a general election.
This. Labour were always going to get a thumping before Brexit. They should have accepted TM's deal after she cut and pasted workers rights and environmental protection from the LP demands instead they played with fire and we all have now been burnt. Corbyn and McDonnell were delusional

England can have Brexit, yes. It'll come at the cost of breaking up the UK.

Seems that choice has been made. Not what I'd have wanted, but yes, I accept it.

EU citizen here.

After the 2016 referendum and this GE, Brexit has to go ahead. Another vote on this issue doesn't make any sense. Personally, I think it's the wrong decision but I've accepted it.

We don’t have to like it. It will be a shitshow.

why have we endured so much austerity it was an ideological Conservative policy, supported by many who apparently believe that a country’s economy can be run along the same lines as a household budget.

Democracy was restored last night
Can you explain what you mean by this?

It wasn't only Corbyn and McDonnell who were delusional. I understand why Labour is trying to pretend this all rests on Corbyn but refusing May's WA, and pushing a second referendum rests on a lot of high-profile Labour MPs (including those now positioning for a leadership challenge) Until they take responsibility for where we've ended up, they're going to stay in the political wilderness.

As for Brexit, the WA will get approved and the replacement trade deals with the US, etc, will fall off the public media agenda. The Remainers who marched in the streets won't maintain that momentum because there won't be a single political party that will want to risk their votes trying to represent those type of Remain voters again.

Lol

If by 'accept the vote' you mean factually accept that the Tories won and that Brexit will happen, then yes. If you mean agree that Brexit should happen and agree to stop saying it's a disastrous idea and that the Tories are arseholes and Boris Johnson a self-serving, racist, sexist liar, then nope.

All I can say is I deeply hope the Brexit-heavy North of England will not live to regret entrusting their vote to a party who gives not the slightest shit about them. 'We told you so' will be cold comfort.

I'm in the Brexit heavy North and in a constituency that has turned from Labour to Conservative (in fact the Brexit Party got a LOT of votes here). The feeling around me is very much "get brexit done", "England will be great again", "im sick of hearing about it". Nothing for Conservative support and everything to do with an older generation wanting their own way (in my specific area, predominantly white and slightly uneducated). The Labour voters here are absolutely devastated but we are greatly outnumbered.

The people here just don't understand that the Cons don't care about them. They've shot themselves in the foot and it's so sad to see. I still fully accept the outcome, but i'm intending to move away because my area feels so alien to my own beliefs.

No choice really! Voting in the Uk is a joke! Over 56% of voters didn't want a Tory Government but we have one anyway!

I honestly have no clue what goes on in some people's minds when it comes to politics! I have no idea why people who are poor and struggling to make ends meet vote for such a party.

This country will never be functional whilever we have the current voting system- and this time they've really screwed us over! The Uk will cease to exist, we'll lose the protection of the EU, we'll be enslaved to the USA and China and the NHS and education will also be victims of Brexit!

Even then I doubt people will see what they've voted for because in my eyes they are too thick to see beyond the end of their own noses!

The thing about Brexit is, of course, there is now not one single person left in the whole world that thinks Britain will be better off, in any way, post-Brexit.

If it was so good before, why have we endured so much austerity.

And this is exactly why you get the sort of comments I've seen elsewhere like "turkeys voting for Christmas". Someone who has apparently swallowed the propaganda that everything bad in the UK is the fault of the EU and the government has been powerless to stop it. Someone who has apparently managed to miss, despite having had nine years in which to spot it, that austerity has been a Conservative policy and absolutely fuck all to do with the EU. The same Conservative government (broadly) who you are now trusting to invest in the NHS, the criminal justice system, in public services after being apparently blind to their systematic defunding of all those things over the past nine years.

I can respect the election result, but I will never respect the opinion of someone so blindingly, embarrassingly ill-informed as this.

And move on with a united country, can we stop bickering and accept what people have voted for?

I’m in Scotland. Just kicked out our local Tory MP last night. **

We did not vote for Brexit. Nor did NI. We have not voted for a Tory government in generations and overwhelmingly backed an independence party last night. I didn’t even like the SNP candidate for my area (huge proponent of self ID among other things) but needs fucking must.

Hopefully this result will lead to independence for Scotland and reunification of Ireland.

England and Wales can do what they like. 🙂

There is nothing at all united about this country!

can anyone explain to me (and I know how ignorant this sounds honestly!) why voting is done the ways its done, and not simply the party with the most votes wins?

If we assume people voted based purely on Brexit, we haven't voted again for Brexit. As the results currently stand more people voted for non-Brexit parties than Brexit parties (Labour, Lib dems, Greens and SNP have 50.3% of the vote share between them, Conservatives and Brexit party have 45.6% of the vote share - the rest is split between the smaller parties but whether they're pro or anti-Brexit the pro-remain parties have a majority of the vote share). If we had a fair system of representation Brexit would not be happening without at least another referendum. The conservatives are only in power due to the way the electorate is divided up into constituencies, not because a majority of people voted for them.

I think the fractions are to deep to ever be healed & when people realise that the problems with housing/education/NHS/police aren't automatically fixed on feb 1 it will lead to worse divisions.
People (imo)were too short sighted in their votes. & based it on Brexit not our country social problems.

I accept that there’s a thumping Conservative majority and that gives Johnson the mandate to deliver the things in his manifesto.

I will never accept Brexit and will fight to ensure the Conservative Party are the ones held responsible for the outcome of us leaving the EU.

I would support a campaign to rejoin the EU once we have left, even though the terms will be nowhere near as good as the current arrangements.

This.

Beautifully put, @MamaFlintstone.

I'm puzzled by talk of 'being united' and 'pulling together.'

In the end, our lives will be determined by a small number of people with attendant civil servants who agree a certain set of outcomes. They emerge from these rooms and, suddenly, we have a border down the Irish sea, or a whole set of other trade obstacles and changes of status that are not admitted to, but drip-fed to us when they become impossible to hide.

Even a national 'group hug' or a linking of arms up and down the UK or any amount of unifying utterances or coming together will not stop this happening. We, as a voting population, ultimately have no power at all over what happens to us. As of today, this is definitely the case.

We can't Take Back Control because we never had it in the first place.

The whole point of a democracy, OP, is that we don’t have to accept anything at all. I absolutely get that there is probably now nothing to be done about Brexit but I don’t have to accept that is the right outcome for this country. I can protest as much as I want. I can have whatever opinion I want on the Brexit issue - as can 48% of the voting public who agree with me that the right thing for this country is to remain in the EU. Your suggestion that I should accept the situation - or not protest, discuss, ask questions, demand answers, demand that those in power are held to account - is asking me to accept a dictatorship where I go about my business in fear of what might happen if I think/feel/say/give my opinion. If Brexit is a disaster for this country, it will not be because 48% of us don’t accept it: we will have no choice but to live it and make the best of it.

@Bollykecks The problem is not that it’s the party with the most votes wins, it’s that the party with the most votes wins the entire seat. So there’s an argument for Proportional Representation where if Tories got 40% they would then share the seat with the other party or parties that make up the other 60%. So there’s more than one party being represented in every constituency.