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Will the UK now accept the vote

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Gin96 · 13/12/2019 10:16

And move on with a united country, can we stop bickering and accept what people have voted for?

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AlrightyyThen · 13/12/2019 10:52

I think about how history will retell the events of the first half of this century and suspect it will be unflattering.

I said this exact thing this morning. I feel like i'm in part of a future history lesson, and not a good one.

I accept the vote as i accepted the Brexit results. But i am considering moving. I don't feel united and i don't particularly feel "British". (I'm a Labour remainer).

MangoSpice · 13/12/2019 10:53

No. The majority of Scotland did not vote Tory but yet again we are stuck answering to a Tory government in Westminster.

👆this. It's been almost 70 years since the Scottish people last voted for a Tory government.

IHateBlueLights · 13/12/2019 10:54

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Armadilloboss · 13/12/2019 10:54

The irony of this vote being at 52-48 is too much!!!

yolofish · 13/12/2019 10:57

I accept the result, I have to as it's how our system works. I don't have to like it, and I don't have to stop speaking out against what politicians do or don't do.

As for uniting the country - pffft, that ship has sailed. I doubt I can find very much in common with many leavers and don't want to unite with them very much at all.

Considermesometimes · 13/12/2019 10:58

Yes I think we are all thoroughly sick to death of it, I don't think there can be anyone left in any doubt now. We will leave, lets hope they come up with a fabulous deal so that we can do so sensibly. I sense they will, and we can all bloody move on once and for all.

PlomBear · 13/12/2019 11:00

Scotland will be leaving, no doubt NI will. Republic of Wales anybody? Then we really will just be Little England.

I laugh when people say “we’ve got our country back.” We aren’t returning to the days of the British Empire, nor will immigration decrease.

Weepingwillows12 · 13/12/2019 11:00

Personally I am hugely disappointed in the results but actually I do now feel the government has a clear mandate for Brexit. Before, I felt that the margin was too narrow for a decision with such far ranging impacts with lots of the country not having voted. In a (small) way that is comforting.

I will just have to hope my fears dont come true.

Kazzyhoward · 13/12/2019 11:01

If you’ve been voting on one issue only that’s your own business but don’t presume the rest of the population has.

Well according to Momentum, yesterday was all about Brexit and that's why Labour lost apparently.

nowayhose · 13/12/2019 11:01

How on earth can we move on as a united country when we are clearly NOT united ??

Scotland voted a landslide SNP victory, so clearly they do NOT support Brexit and would rather become independent rather than leave the EU.

That's so clearly NOT UNITED.

Considermesometimes · 13/12/2019 11:02

What did people vote for though? I still can’t find a straight, definitive answer as to what brexit is actually going to achieve

Please tell me this is a joke. That after three and a half years you still don't know why people want to leave??? Where do you live under a rock?
It has been spelt out over and over again to the point of driving people insane.
It goes something like this:

We want to control our borders
We want to control immigration
We want to make our own laws in our own country
We want to decide our own future, and not have it inflicted on us from the EU

We want to be an independent nation again, like 85% of the rest of the world.

What don't you understand??????

I am a remainer, and even I know all of this!!!!

I truly despair.

RhinoskinhaveI · 13/12/2019 11:03

it was a landslide victory, what are the grounds for not accepting it?

DumbledoresWhore · 13/12/2019 11:03

IHateBlueLights

The campaign to rejoin the EU starts the moment we leave.

With luck the leavers will die off. Deeply ashamed of my generation.

Oh, how lovely! Do you, too, consider yourself a compassionate human being?

Such a shame people can see behind the facade.

HuloBeraal · 13/12/2019 11:03

Remain parties won 52% of the national vote.
Leave parties won 48% of the national vote.
Last night.
Make of that what you will.

whatsthatnow74 · 13/12/2019 11:03

NO

Iwouldlikesomecake · 13/12/2019 11:05

Those who opposed the EU have campaigned and tried to get in the way of it for literally its whole existence. How is that any different to people trying to stop us leaving? It’s not, but now the boot is on the other foot those who want to leave don’t like the fact that actually, just because they’ve got the mandate doesn’t mean nobody will oppose them.

You don’t just have to accept anything just because it was ushered in ‘democratically’. Throughout modern democracy we have seen people rise to power without breaking any laws but massively at the expense of great swathes of the electorate. Dictatorships can be created by democratic means.

Personally I will never be happy and accepting of Brexit and the more that goes on the more I’m coming to peace with the fact that once my parents aren’t around any more, I may emigrate to mainland Europe.

ohprettybaby · 13/12/2019 11:05

"I’m currently looking at other citizens like they’re aliens. I don’t understand what’s going through their heads"
This is exactly how Conservative supporters feel about Labour voters and what goes in in their heads.

"I will not accept the Tory party in its current form as the people to lead us anywhere but down the toilet."
This is exactly how Conservative supporters feel about what would have happened if Labour had been elected.

Obviously if the party you support and believe in don't get elected, you are going to be very disappointed. I hope that in a couple of years time you see the fruits of the government's policy and feel more optimistic about the future.

I feel for Labour supporters today though as I know I would have been gutted if the Conservatives had not won the election.

Mintychoc1 · 13/12/2019 11:05

The sad irony is that if the Remain MPs hadn’t been so obstructive, and had supported some of Teresa May’s soft Brexit deals, we would never have had Boris and a general election.

onalongsabbatical · 13/12/2019 11:08

Nope. Non. Nein. Nah. Nao. Nyet.
Never.

Considermesometimes · 13/12/2019 11:09

No one anywhere wants a return to the empire, this is just ridiculous!

Scotland will not leave now, because they are not independently wealthy and can not afford to join the EU, their deficits are too high. Indeed, Scotland can vote for independence, but won't because they simply would immediately sink as they do not currently have a viable economy to support the country. They would have to make some very hard choices, no NHS they simply could not afford it, limited underfunded education, very limited benefit system, no army, no currency, no BBC or the indeed any of the other things we have together.

When it comes to it Scotland will vote to remain, because they can not afford to do anything else, this may change in five or ten years. SNP should get Scotland's economy in order first, and show that it is viable and then go for the vote.

TheFlis12345 · 13/12/2019 11:12

I accept that there’s a thumping Conservative majority and that gives Johnson the mandate to deliver the things in his manifesto.

I will never accept Brexit and will fight to ensure the Conservative Party are the ones held responsible for the outcome of us leaving the EU.

I would support a campaign to rejoin the EU once we have left, even though the terms will be nowhere near as good as the current arrangements.

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Could not have put it better myself. I will never make peace with Brexit or the huge damage it will inflict on this country.

Justanotherlurker · 13/12/2019 11:15

Remain parties won 52% of the national vote.
Leave parties won 48% of the national vote.

Oh dear.... maths not a strong point i see.

RoombaSavedMySanity · 13/12/2019 11:16

People should never just accept the politics of the day; they should rail passionately against everything they disagree with and for everything they do agree with.

That tension is a critical element to a healthy demoracy.

What is not helpful is the constant name calling - by all sides - rather than proper debate. It not only stiffles understanding but it also, in many cases, actively works against the person doing the name calling and pushes their 'opponent' into an even stronger stance against them.

AuldAlliance · 13/12/2019 11:17

We will leave, lets hope they come up with a fabulous deal so that we can do so sensibly. I sense they will [...]

This is worrying.

Bibby26 · 13/12/2019 11:17

I can’t accept it because I cannot understand it. So many people I have seen on SM etc were pro labour and declaring they were voting so and I feel very naive about the process.

I fully understand I don’t not know everyone in the UK but when everyone I speak to is anti brexit and voted so my teeny brain cannot comprehend how they have won by a big majority

Potentially it’s just my age range?

Please forgive my ignorance but why are people voting Tory? Is it just brexit? What are the actual pros? I usually ignore all political threads on here perhaps I should go find one!

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