And lo, there was a Christmas miracle! A poster on this thread has changed my opinion on a political point through calm and well reasoned debate, and didn’t even call me a thicko when I disagreed and used a bad example to boot. Am I hallucinating?
Thank you @ListeningQuietly. I’ve been thinking about your well made PR points. I know FPTP is not fit for purpose, but have always mistrusted PR due to the risk of giving a louder voice to extreme views, e.g UKIP 2017. But you’ve convinced me that I missed the point. People would indeed vote differently if they could vote according to their true beliefs. Of course they would if FPTP didn’t force them to vote tactically to prevent truly awful parties gaining power (whichever party you consider to be awful, plenty to choose from!).
Just imagine the difference it would have made if the many thousands in the same boat had voted e.g greens, libdems, independent candidates without feeling like it to be a wasted vote due. I think labour would suffered heavy losses but we wouldn’t be facing such a sea of blue. A more accurate representation of the electorate’s view plus it would break the stranglehold of both main parties. You are absolutely right.
Cheers Listening. Am in a pub so can really raise a glass! V anti-social that I’m staring at my phone, but it’s so unusual these days for posters to stay civil in the face of disagreement, let alone successfully argue and change someone’s mind, that I couldn’t let it pass without comment. Plus I can be a stubborn sod irl too so double points for convincing me.
Up with this type of thing and down with the furious threads full of mudslinging that get us nowhere. There have been some vile threads of late full of insults and rage - the posters on this thread (the last few pages at least) are a welcome antidote to that. Gives me hope that we can find compromises and a common way forward together rather than ripping each other apart. Bravo!