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Fricking election. Corbyn being thrown under the bus.

219 replies

Lololololola · 13/12/2019 00:07

I did not vote Labour. But I didn't choose not to vote Labour based on one man. I am watching the BBC (so many issues with this tonight!!) and they are all saying it is Corbyn's fault. He is not my favourite person, but FML, how bloody awful that they can be behind him for years and the minute it goes pear shaped, they throw him under the bus. Collective responsibility, people!!

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MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 13/12/2019 13:13

The saying goes...
If you always do what you’ve always done; then you’ll always get what you’ve always got!
If JC has any integrity he would do the decent thing and resign straight away to give the Labour Party time to regroup without his interference-but, he doesn’t want that, he wants the party to carry on in his own image, which has been shown, simply does not work.
I’m in a Tory strong hold and hate our MP, but still couldn’t find it in me to vote Labour, so Lib Dem it was.
There is however, nowhere to hide for Boris now, so let’s see what he’s made of-maybe he will surprise everyone and improve the lives of people in this country and maybe he won’t. But whilst he’s doing that then the Labour Party need to sort their shit out to give themselves any hope of being anything other than the opposition.

CaveMum · 13/12/2019 13:23

Just listening to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2. His correspondent said that it may not be as simple as getting rid of Corbyn and Momentum - under his leadership they’ve overhauled the internal mechanisms of pf the party and its a very real chance that they will return another leader with hard-left views.

Perhaps a split in the party would be the best thing - let the hard-left go their own way and leave behind a party to be rebuilt by centrists, which I genuinely believe is where the vast majority of the UK population sits on the political spectrum.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 13/12/2019 13:39

I agree-Momentum should just piss off by themselves, it might give Labour a chance to recover them-doubt that will happen though

Witchend · 13/12/2019 13:48

the only thing Corbyn had going for him was his integrity
That's a damning statement if every I heard one. I'm not sure his integrity was all that much. Grin

Hefzi · 13/12/2019 13:53

Given the abysmal Tory record since 2019, and two terrible party leaders, it's frankly piss poor to not only lose two elections but also to give the Tories the biggest majority in over 30 years. The fish rots from the head.

TheHorseOnSeventhAvenue · 13/12/2019 14:02

Was it a Boris Bus and did it mention the NHS on the side?

yellowallpaper · 13/12/2019 14:17

Corbyn and his cronies were happy to throw loyal centre left MPs not only under the bus but the train as well. People who were talking sense, who knew their constituencies and their traditional voters.

Thelnebriati · 13/12/2019 14:55

Not only MP's, party members as well.

ChristmasSpirtsOnTheRocksPleas · 13/12/2019 15:00

I don’t think you can say that the entire Labour Party has been behind him all this time.

Christmas99 · 13/12/2019 15:04

He was the leader - who else is supposed to get thrown under the bus ?

TSSDNCOP · 13/12/2019 19:02

They’re going to need a bigger bus.

SeaWitchly · 13/12/2019 19:35

It is beyond the pale to be stating Corbyn is an anti Semite tbh. There is absolutely no proof of this.
Of course he needs to take responsibility for Labour’s loss but the media have been against him from day 1 and that is also us deciding factor for a lot of people choosing a party to vote for.

Trewser · 13/12/2019 19:37

It's nothing to do with the 'media'

We could literally hear his words as he spoke them on tv and could read the manifesto.

It has made my year that he's been destroyed politically.

SeaWitchly · 13/12/2019 19:45

Maybe you bothered to read the Labour Manifesto Trewser but a lot of people didn’t. They preferred to spout Daily Mail headlines instead.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 13/12/2019 19:46

If Dianne Abbott had over and over again said that members of the Labour Party had been making racist comments towards her and she resigned because she felt so bullied and Corbyn ignored this over and over again and he didn’t pull up a party member who made racist comments in his presence would we be rushing to defend him

Absolutely not and rightfully so. So why is it different if the person is Jewish.

If you are a leader of a party and you are actively ignoring an issue it would suggest you don’t see there is an issue

He ignored anti semitism as he doesn’t think it is an issue

And people claim he is a good honest personHmm is he fuck

Trewser · 13/12/2019 19:47

I cannot believe he hasn't gone!

Amanduh · 13/12/2019 19:51

The ‘people don’t know what they’re voting for, they just believe the Daily Mail’ is proof that Corbyn supporters don’t listen to what the problem is. Him. 17 MILLION people didn’t vote Tory because of what they read in the Daily Mail for fucks sake. Utter tripe.

Amanduh · 13/12/2019 19:52

*14 million even!!

SeaWitchly · 13/12/2019 19:52

Lola I agree with all you have said.
But I still think the media’s representation and ongoing character assassination of Corbyn had a massive role to play in this. And this really makes me fear for the future. Corbyn will leave and Labour will appoint a new leader. But the media will again pick their side and how does the general public ever get to the real truth without the slander, lies and fake truth?

SeaWitchly · 13/12/2019 19:54

Not all Amanduh, no.
Some chose to read the Sun instead 😁

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 13/12/2019 20:04

What representation

That he held peace talks with Hamas but didn’t engage with Jewish groups from Israel

That he invites ex IRA prisoners to the HOP just a few weeks after the Brighton bombing

That he has shared platforms with terrorist supporters

That he was never ever in any high level Irish peace talks

That he turned a blind eye to anti semitism in his party and then refused to apologize for the hurt and fear so many have felt

This is all from his mouth this has all been discussed with him over and over again in interviews. He believes his actions are to do with making peace many many people see them as actions is an agitator

Lougle · 13/12/2019 20:29

I have voted Labour in the past. Parents are staunchly Tory. We have argued about it many times. I posted that I was undecided. When I got in to the booth I just couldn't put a cross next to the Labour party and I wouldn't put it a cross next to Conservative, so I threw my vote to the Green party, knowing full well that it was a wasted vote.

user1471439240 · 13/12/2019 20:38

Isn’t it the truth that the Conservatives are actually the party of the centre ground, and people voted for that.
Insulting voters as being far right whilst invoking the spirit of Karl Marx themselves, must surely grind, no?

Frankola · 13/12/2019 20:48

Well it depends how you look at this.

I voted labour because of the NHS. However, I seriously considered not voting labour because of corbyn specifically.

I think he was a danger to the country. He is so beyond socialist, not to mention a terrorist sympathiser and anti semitic.

I hope labour now find themselves a decent leader and get themselves in a much stronger position in time for the next election.

VanGoghsDog · 13/12/2019 22:13

So using your logic - always vote against Murdoch - you think people should have voted Conservative in 1997? Interesting.

Murdoch supported Blair.

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