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Fricking election. Corbyn being thrown under the bus.

219 replies

Lololololola · 13/12/2019 00:07

I did not vote Labour. But I didn't choose not to vote Labour based on one man. I am watching the BBC (so many issues with this tonight!!) and they are all saying it is Corbyn's fault. He is not my favourite person, but FML, how bloody awful that they can be behind him for years and the minute it goes pear shaped, they throw him under the bus. Collective responsibility, people!!

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PickAChew · 13/12/2019 00:33

BBC have never been behind corbyn.

Lololololola · 13/12/2019 00:35

pickachew very noticeable on the BBC tonight, never seen them so partial.

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Whyjustwhy23 · 13/12/2019 00:36

But he wrote the manifesto and it’s

yasle · 13/12/2019 00:38

His own MPs wanted him gone. He refused.

That’s the crux of the problem. It’s not a new thing.

SnorkMaiden81 · 13/12/2019 00:40

Corbin threw Labour under a bus.

BerwickLad · 13/12/2019 00:41

Ok so let's look at Corbyn's policies:

  1. Prevent a US copay healthcare system from being imposed on the country even though nobody is proposing that this happens.
  1. Everyone has free broadband (but pays for water 🙄)
  1. Nationalise everything. (Actually I broadly agree with the principle behind this one - natural monopolies and all that - but it was super light on detail.)
  1. Go to the EU negotiators who will turn around and say "Well, Mr Corbyn, seeing as it's you let's start this entire fucking sorry three and a half year process again", magically get a better deal, call a referendum AND THEN him and his entire party will campaign against the deal he's just got.
  1. Compensate WASPI women with money from thin air.
madeyemoodysmum · 13/12/2019 00:41

Of course he was that unpopular

A range of dog toys had four politicians

Trump
Boris
T May
And Corbyn

Which is the best seller? Grin

Tortoiser · 13/12/2019 00:42

I don’t actually think the BBC are saying anything wrong tonight re Corbyn. They are simply stating the bleeding obvious. And I say that as a Labour voter.

MamaFlintstone · 13/12/2019 00:42

Corbynism, not the individual, deserves to be thrown under the bus and run over repeatedly. I’ve never considered spoiling a ballot paper until today.

AgeLikeWine · 13/12/2019 00:42

Corbyn threw himself under the bus, he threw Labour unde4 the bus, he threw Jewish people under the bus and he threw the people who Labour are supposed to represent under the bus.

KnowBetterDoBetter · 13/12/2019 00:43

It's pretty shit. He's the only person that has ever managed to get the under 30s collectively engaged. I guarantee the turnout for this age group will have broken records, and they'll have voted labour overwhelmingly.

Looks to me like it was Northern leave voters who are the cause of the results.

Plus the extreme MSM bias from the billionaires and the BBC.

DeeZastris · 13/12/2019 00:43

Let’s just hope if Corbyn does resign then we aren’t lumbered with McDonnell. He’s even worse.

Tortoiser · 13/12/2019 00:43

Just look at the coverage now. So many seats lost (potentially). That is not just Brexit. It is also JC and Momentum. That has to be acknowledged.

GCAcademic · 13/12/2019 00:44

very noticeable on the BBC tonight, never seen them so partial

What do you want them to say? This is an unmitigated disaster for Labour. There's no way to balance out that fact with niceties.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 13/12/2019 00:44

They party has been split

It’s party membership that has kept Corbyn in place

Labour could have stood a good chance of winning a majority but no Labour are going to be absolutely trashed and you will still have people claiming it’s not Corbyn it’s the media/that people are not as nice as they are/bbc bias and so on

ItalianinLondon · 13/12/2019 00:45

Basically, I don't think that charging around saying "I am right, and when you come to your senses you will see it, if you don't then you're a fascist and we don't want your vote anyway" is really the way to win over public opinion...

ohgetyou · 13/12/2019 00:46

Voted Lab but really not a fan of Corbyn, I think he is a man of principle and sincerity but he is also out of step with the reality of the modern world and that alienates voters. I voted for Brexit and again he is all for leaving, but staunch leavers are not fans of his brand.

GCAcademic · 13/12/2019 00:48

It's just a shame he won't lose his seat, like Swinson is predicted to.

But then he'll only be replaced by another stuffed Momentum puppet. The party's fucked, and so are we with no prospect of a sensible centrist party for a generation, I reckon.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 13/12/2019 00:50

I agree that in all honesty, many many people have been saying that Corbyn is the reason they won't vote Labour way before this.

So no, I don't think he's been thrown under the bus - it's more a case of "see, TOLD you so".
Which isn't any nicer - but is more honest.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 13/12/2019 00:51

Ffs political commentators are interested in politics they live eat and breath politics it’s their passion

This is beyond expectations and this is politically an earthquake it was unthinkable that some areas that will likely be conservative later today that have voted labour election after election are voting Tory - not even LibDems they are voting Tory

It was similar when Trump won not because they supported him but because it was such a political shift

Namenic · 13/12/2019 00:51

I think it was pretty obvious they were not going to do well. I think some people are quite tribal/sentimental and would want to stick to labour even if they don’t agree with their policies. Personally I am baffled at why remainer tories and Blairites don’t just leave their parties - a few tried to but the independent group for change didn’t really do v well.

Chloemol · 13/12/2019 00:51

But he is the reason, have you not been looking online, in the papers, speaking to Labour Party members? Have you not watched him in Parliament? He flip flops all the time, I want a referendum, ok says Boris, well perhaps not now says JC. We will give a vote , we won’t give a vote on a referendum it, oh well yes actually we will. He has allowed anti semitism to abound in his party, he is happy to call terrorists friends, need I go on? Where have you been

Trewser · 13/12/2019 00:53

The poor hard working Labour candidates, knocking on doors and being told how much people hate Corbyn. Hopefully Momentum can fuck off now.

BerwickLad · 13/12/2019 00:53

@KnowBetterDoBetter (was there ever a more woke username?) the "northern leave voters" you so blithely dismiss are the roots of the Labour movement, and Corbyn and momentum have dug their own graves by ignoring them in favour of blue haired gender neutral bullshit.

Milicentbystander72 · 13/12/2019 00:54

This has been in the post for Labour many centrist MPs have been playing the long game.

Momentum, Corbyn and Mcdonell were warned over and over this would happen.

I've just seen Alan Johnson (love the man) take down Momentum's Jon Lansdown on itv - no hold barred. He said he wants Momentum, and this whole awful Corbyn experiment out if the party. They have let down the traditional labour voters.

Got to love Alan Johnson.

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