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Fricking election. Corbyn being thrown under the bus.

219 replies

Lololololola · 13/12/2019 00:07

I did not vote Labour. But I didn't choose not to vote Labour based on one man. I am watching the BBC (so many issues with this tonight!!) and they are all saying it is Corbyn's fault. He is not my favourite person, but FML, how bloody awful that they can be behind him for years and the minute it goes pear shaped, they throw him under the bus. Collective responsibility, people!!

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TSSDNCOP · 13/12/2019 06:53

Labour picked the wrong Milliband. Things would’ve been a lot different from that point.

Sparklybaublefest · 13/12/2019 06:53

I blame the Sun

rwalker · 13/12/2019 06:54

But it was his fault ,He just got carried away with his manifesto EVERYDAY there was something else free with ZERO plan way of paying for .
He would tax the superrich (who would all fuck off so taking more of less people would mean you have less then you have now ).
He was praying on naive people promising pots of gold but the public purse is the same as your own not bottomless supply of cash.
he would of bankrupt the country.

ShizeItsWeegie · 13/12/2019 06:58

John Smith was the best Prime Minister this country never had. JC is responsible for making the LP unelectable and that is a crying shame because the Tory party need really really robust opposition and they have not had that in many years.

I am astonished that anyone felt able to vote for a Labour Party with JC at the helm. He just blows with the wind while sitting on the fence.

lowlandLucky · 13/12/2019 06:59

Corbyn threw himself under the bus by standing side by side with terrorists and ignoring (imo encouraging) the hatred thrown at the Jewish community because he lies in bed with Hamas

Aragog · 13/12/2019 06:59

I know of several people who have always voted labour but couldn't bring themselves to vote for him to become prime minister. But Labour pretty much knew this - it's not a surprise to them. Things like you gov have been saying it for a long time. They shouldn't have let it go on for so long.

tinierclanger · 13/12/2019 07:01

Honestly, I don’t even know why I’m on here. But you are deluded if you’re going to continue blaming individual leaders. The rich have the media in their pocket. You get the government that Murdoch wants. Look at the lines people trot out in here. It’s laughable.

BillywilliamV · 13/12/2019 07:10

He behaves as though the country is some kind of left wing discussion group case study, it's all theory to him, still!

tobee · 13/12/2019 07:11

We have no hope if views like tinierclanger aren't seen as part of the problem sadly.

HeresMe · 13/12/2019 07:13

Corbyn and momentum are a cult of personality, they forgot party members are not the electorate.

A district near me which is full of old mining villages who would never voted Tory in the past did just that as they feel labour is not listening to them.

Corbyn really needs to fall on his sword and go.

underneaththeash · 13/12/2019 07:17

I also think it was his fault too. He's massively left wing and the general population know from past experiences of very left wing governments in this country that we end up in financial ruin.

He choses the cabinet and they create the laws and being so left-wing he's not going to choose moderates. The public could see what they were getting from the shadow cabinet.

Statements like "I want to abolish private schools" belong in some 1960's quasi communist dictatorship.

Witchend · 13/12/2019 07:23

I think it's the one good that's come out of the election. Hopefully now Labour will find a good leader, who will be able to be in opposition properly.
We've been lacking a good pm for ages, but having such a poor opposition has allowed it.
The country wouldn't be in this mess if there had been a decent opposition leader who people felt they could vote for.

I don't think this was so much a victory for the Tories as a loss by Labour, and Corbyn is at least 90% of this loss.
He should have had the grace to step down ages ago when it became clear that too many people would never vote for him.

Quartz2208 · 13/12/2019 07:23

TSSDNCOP is right they lost it on the wrong Milliband when they started to forget to look outward at what the voters wanted and went insular
Then a mixture of hard left policies driven by Corbyn and his cronies, Corbyn views and momentum they have lost
Labour need to regroup but I think it was Ed Balls who said they need to take time in picking a leader

I also think the media played a part. The one good thing here is though Boris and the tories have no place to hide. Their majority is such that whatever happens with Brexit now it is theirs and theirs alone. No passing the poisoned chalice now. Deep down he must be scared now of what is to come because how on earth he can spin Brexit and the shit storm that is coming as anything other than his fault
One can only hope that Labour or a new party can do what they failed to do this time.

merrymouse · 13/12/2019 07:23

When was the last time Labour won this few seats?

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 13/12/2019 07:24

I’ve read that Corbyn will not lead he party to another election

I bet the idiot will stay to keep the stranglehold the left has on the party so he shall be replaced by his choice - ideology before being in power Hmm

Please if you care about the Labour Party join so you can have a say in a future Labour PM

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 13/12/2019 07:26

His own hubris has brought him to where he is now. He's clearly never read a Shakespearean tragedy otherwise he'd have foreseen that coming.

Trewser · 13/12/2019 07:28

I can't believe he hasn't gone immediately!

GCAcademic · 13/12/2019 07:28

We have no hope if views like tinierclanger aren't seen as part of the problem sadly.

Yes, the thick proles brainwashed by the right-wing media narrative shows the contempt so many Labour activists have for voters. These activists have been all over social media and Mumsnet, insulting working class people and women, calling them gammon and TERFs and then expecting to get their vote. Well, that doesn’t work.

At least Tory campaigners have the good sense to mostly keep their contempt for the electorate under wraps.

ChickenNuggetsChipsAndBeans · 13/12/2019 07:32

Corbyn was never going to be electable hs should resign with immediate effect but he is going to continue to push his ideology that the country simply dont want.

Boris had the sense to hide the far right wing of his party during the election. Corbyn put the far left centre stage and this is what happens.

He will keep on listening to his like minded advisers until the labour party chooses another unelectable politician. It is so depressing.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 13/12/2019 07:33

Last time labour did so badly was in 1983 they won 209 seats

I think so far they have won 203

Sammi38 · 13/12/2019 07:35

Think it was 1934.

lovelyupnorth · 13/12/2019 07:36

You just needed to read the manifesto it was far far too left wing.

Momentum need to be thrown under the bus along with Corbyn.

merrymouse · 13/12/2019 07:38

Yes, the thick proles brainwashed by the right-wing media narrative shows the contempt so many Labour activists have for voters.

Agree.

I think this twitter thread says everything you need to know about the bubble in which many of Corbyn's inner circle live - the little people are 'gammon', but Owen Jones is just appreciating a joke.

twitter.com/helenlewis/status/1205093823052963840

merrymouse · 13/12/2019 07:38

I think so far they have won 203

But there are only two seats left to call.

tinierclanger · 13/12/2019 07:43

I never said anything about thick proles. Says more about you than me. But if you’re constantly immersed in a single narrative, it’s hard to see past it.