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ILikePandas15 · 04/12/2019 14:11

Mil has invited herself to visit us on ours sons 2nd birthday. She didn’t ask if it was ok (if we busy or have plans) and just said what time is good for me to visit. I have plans for the day and will be taking him out for his favourite food in town and then soft play or the park (weather depending). She also has the habit of trying to take over and control everything so frankly I don't want her here. What's a good reply to her text just assuming that she can visit.

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saraclara · 06/12/2019 21:24

See, if you'd just answered promptly with a time that suited you, and told her you'd not be home if she came any earlier, you could have saved all this. Your DH wouldn't even have had any input on it.

You wasted all that time over-thinking it, ranting and projecting instead of actually answering her question clearly in a way that suited you.

I give up.

isshoes · 06/12/2019 22:15

It amazes me how big of a deal this seems to be. I agree with OP's DH - on the basis of what OP has told us, the plans are pretty casual and could easily be adjusted. Can't believe people are suggesting DH be there to receive the gift instead of DS (hardly the point) and that OP should make MIL 'DH's problem'. She's the child's grandma FFS and she wants to see him and give him a gift. As someone who lost their grandma two weeks ago I just find this really unpleasant and unnecessarily political - all this rubbish about making a stand and setting a precedent. Just let her see her grandson when she's already covered half the journey for Heaven's sake!

Lweji · 06/12/2019 22:41

I don't mind arranging something near dc's birthday, it's her just ignoring my plans, inviting herself and expecting me to accommodate what's convenient for her that I'm annoyed by.

You're annoyed because she's trying to save herself a round trip of 120 miles or wasting most of the day waiting for you to return home.

I'm beginning to think "overstaying" for you means spending more than 10 min at your home after doing 60 miles to get there. Hmm

You sound like my socially anxious ex. Basically unwelcoming.

KristinaM · 06/12/2019 22:58

Are you in the Uk OP? Because it’s very unusual for a Uk NHS hospital to have outpatient clinics on Saturday mornings. It’s only done very occasionally to clear waiting lists/ spend extra money at year end etc.

BertrandRussell · 06/12/2019 23:02

Really? There are plenty of routine weekend appointments at my two nearest hospitals

saraclara · 06/12/2019 23:20

I've also had a Saturday outpatients appointment. I was surprised when the letter came, but glad that waiting lists are being tackled that way.

KristinaM · 06/12/2019 23:36

Lucky you Bertrand . Your local health authority must have plenty spare cash to pay extra sessions / overtime rates.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 07/12/2019 05:07

OP if she texts today saying "we're on our way" either say "ok we're not in, could you please drop the present to a neighbour and DS will call you later when we're home" or "ok we're not in but you're more than welcome to join us at soft play".
It's really easy.

bananasandwicheseveryday · 07/12/2019 07:54

@KristinaM

My local health trust is anything but flush with cash - in fact, the poor management of budgets is one of the reasons it is in 'special measures'or whatever it's called these days. That said, I have had appointments for ultrasound scans (not pregnancy related) both on Sundays and late in the evening.
A family member undergoing treatment for cancer always has their scans on Saturdays and another, with a neurological problem, has had scans at 11pm!

I completely think it is possible that the OP's MIL could genuinely have a hospital appointment on a Saturday. I don't recall the OP stating what type of appointment , apologies if I missed the one where she stated it was an outpatient clinic.

Aridane · 07/12/2019 08:04

@GiveHerHellFromUs - but OP,doesn't want demon MIL anywhere near her, DS or soft play!

BertrandRussell · 07/12/2019 09:01

“Lucky you Bertrand . Your local health authority must have plenty spare cash to pay extra sessions / overtime rates”

I think it’s extremely unlikely that it has any spare cash at all. However, it does run outpatient clinics at the weekends. I don’t know how many departments do this, but I have given friends lifts to a memory clinic and something orthopaedic . If that’s the bones one. But if you’d rather believe that demon mil and I are both lying- feel free!

Spiaggispeciale · 07/12/2019 09:03

@KristinaM Saturday appointments routinely at the nearest 3 hospitals to me too.

Aridane · 07/12/2019 09:16

For a number of years, the NHS has been moving to x7 days a week appointments, with the target date for completion of this being 2020 (!). The focus has been more on GPs surgeries.

I was blissfully unaware of this until 111 referred me to my local 'hub' weekend practice with an appointment (and that going forward I could book weekend appointments there!). And until my mother - admittedly at pretty short notice - was Given back surgery on a Saturday.

In this particular case, however, MIL is clearly lying Grin

StrayWoman · 07/12/2019 09:18

I don't get all the fuss. Tell her you're leaving at 11, so any time before that is fine, but you won't be home after.

Then leave at 11.

TabbyMumz · 07/12/2019 09:21

I've had a few Saturday appointments at our local hospital. I think it is becoming the norm now.

TabbyMumz · 07/12/2019 09:26

"Please will someone explain, because I honestly don't get it."
I dont get it either Wonky. It is something I've only really heard about on Mumsnet. In real life I dont think this is a thing, or if it is, it's an unspoken thing because people realise it's a bit silly. My parents never asked to see my kids on their birthday, they were quite happy to see them another day. My in laws asked once if we would take them over to theirs on their birthday and we declined. They never asked again. Birthdays are for going out and enjoying yourself, not sitting in grandparents sitting rooms for hours. Anyway, I get that some people think this is important to see them on the day, but it's just not practical, especially when they are at school.

BertrandRussell · 07/12/2019 09:47

Isn’t it nice to give a present on the actual birthday? And, as I said, there have been threads about how awful it is for mils not to make any effort to get presents there on the day...

BertrandRussell · 07/12/2019 09:48

“My in laws asked once if we would take them over to theirs on their birthday and we declined. They never asked again.”
Well done! You certainly put them in their place. They won’t overstep again.

TabbyMumz · 07/12/2019 09:54

"My in laws asked once if we would take them over to theirs on their birthday and we declined. They never asked again.”
Well done! You certainly put them in their place. They won’t overstep again."
They didnt. It was brilliant. They played this game where they expected us to go to them all the time, saying they were too ill to go anywhere, where in reality they were flitting all over the place, but kept that quiet . They didnt visit their grandchildren in 12 years but expected to be visited.

Waffles80 · 07/12/2019 10:28

Have you told her you won’t be in yet OP or are you waiting at home for her arrival?

SeaEagleFeather · 07/12/2019 10:42

Thing is, bertrand, you're so very sure tabby was unreasonable. I thought so too tbh. But then her late post puts things in a different context. I still think that it's nice for family to see the kids on a birthday, though sometimes it just doesn't work out. But tabby's later post puts a different perspect it. Expecting to be visited all the time but it never being reciprocal when there are no fitness issues is a different story.

But I don't think it's ok to fall for some sort of game playing, which if you actually read the OP's posts, is what's going on. She's made it perfectly clear there was another family party that her MIL didnt want to attend, and that she can come -another- day, she's even said when and invited her for tea. SHe's also been clear that MIL will take over most of the day and mean all other plans have to be suspended.

This thread is astonishingly full of people cherrypicking, reading badly and refusing to accept anything other than their own projection. Maybe a few who genuinely think it's ok for an awkward woman to get her own way, no matter how much it means putting other

OP, I do hope your MIL gets to see your son near his birthday and that you can find a way to co-exist with her that is reasonable. I do think that the PPs who suggested actually being very direct are right "saturday morning doesnt work for us, please come sunday afternoon for tea, or we can come to you". Over politeness actually does no one any favours, not your MIL and not you.

SeaEagleFeather · 07/12/2019 10:43

no matter how much it means putting other people out*

BertrandRussell · 07/12/2019 10:59

The thing is, I think in a family you can expect to put people out a bit. And be put out. Isn’t that how it goes?

coldwarenigma · 07/12/2019 11:08

Most of those saying that MIL should be pushed out you do realise in all probability you will become a MIL and GM yourselves?

And those saying about toxic MILs'...are you sure it is her...not you...?

A MIL was at one time a DIL...

Karma and all that...

holidayhelpp · 07/12/2019 11:22

Wonder if mil is sitting there having a cup of tea as we speak

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