To think that it's impossible to vote for Jeremy Corbyn after last night's interview?

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To be upfront : I would never vote for Labour or Corbyn anyway, for various reasons.. But that was not a good interview and had I been considering it I would be very concerned now.

Listening to a clip of the interview on LBC earlier - Jeremy Corbyn repeatedly refused to say how the £58 billion WASPI money would be paid - the Labour Manifesto is 'fully costed' except for the £58 billion they left out.

Yesterday, I heard a WASPI woman on the radio say that she's not voting for Labour because she's terrified that Corbyn will raid the money she's worked hard 'all her life for' - to fund the WASPI promise.

How about people look at policies, that would be novel.

Oh boy, Jeremy Corbyn is very similar to many Scandinavian politicians (my homeground), who are considered fairly middle of the road. It is a sad reflection on the UK that he is considered some kind of dangerous radical, when many of his policies would be the very bottom line that many of my scandi friends and family would be looking for in a political manifesto.
This. The Overton window has lurched so far right in the UK that things that are perfectly normal in other European countries are presented as being extremist left wing. Its farcical.

I will be interested to see if Andrew Neil talks over and interrupts Boris as much as he did Jeremy last night

I think that depends on whether Boris answers the questions asked or not.

Example

Neil,,,how will you pay for the late break in promise of the pensions
Corbyn, we need to pay for them, it's morally right.
Neil, yes I understand that, but how will you pay
Corbyn, we need to pay for those pensions, those women have been done a disservice (paraphrasing)
Neil, yes I understand why, but how will you pay for them
Corbyn, it's the right thing to do.
Neil but how will you pay. That's what I'm asking.
Corbyn, can I just explain why I want to do it
Neil I know why you wish to do it, how will you pay
Corbyn, I want to explain why I wish to do it again
Neil I'm not asking why again, I'm not disputing it, how will you pay for it.
Corybn, well it's morally the right thing to do.blah blah blah
Neil, how will you pay,,,!,,,
Corbyn, well reserves or borrowing
Neil, what reserves
Corybn, the government reserves
Neil, but the government doesn't have 60 billion in reserves
Corbyn, well we will use reserves
Neil but there is not 60 billion of reserves
Corbyn no there isn't
Neil so where will the money come from
Corbyn, it's the right thing to do
Neil how will you pay!, it's not costed in your manifesto
Corybn, well we will borrrow it.

I hear a lot of things on the radio Clavinova - and some of them were actually said.

He was embarrassingly bad.

Prince Andrew’s worst interview of the year award, is seriously under threat

Plus Boris is just Trump with a thesaurus. No thanks.

I hear a lot of things on the radio Clavinova - and some of them were actually said.

Bluntness100 has conveniently provided a transcript.

Johnson will No Deal. If you don't believe it, ask yourselves why the ERG have shut up, sidelined Rees Mogg with instructions to speak not and are now enthusing for a 'deal' they wouldn't take from TMay. Expect this -
'It's to my great regret that it has not been possible to reach the agreement with EU that we were led to expect. The UK therefore has no alternative but to leave without a deal. It will be hard at first, beaches, battlefields, battling through etc . . .' So don't take those tins out of the cupboard yet. And don't give him a majority.

WHY have the labour party stuck their heads in the sand for so long when its obvious JC is unelectable for so many people?

That's the big question isn't it? Personally I can't stand either leader, but it almost doesn't matter any more who's right or wrong about Corbyn; the fact remains he's become utterly toxic with ratings through the floor, and may well cost Labour the election

My biggest hope is that a defeat will force them into some sort of reality and that we'll get a proper opposition who'll provide a much better choice at the next election

Clavinova The Tory manifesto doesn't mention WASPI at all and Boris has more or less said "tough shit". You want to say Labour isn't fully costed - nor is the Tory one. They say they want to build 40 new hospitals. But that's not costed. Why? Because most of them won't even be built in the next Parliament. NO money has been put aside to be spent on building new hospitals between now and 2025.

For every claim against the Labour manifesto being not fully costed, the same can be said against the Tories. For every claim about Labour being anti-Semitic, the same can be said about the Tories about anti-Islam (as their own Baroness Warsi has repeatedly pointed out).

The Tories are saying they will put 20,000 more Police officers on the streets. That's not even putting back all the ones they themselves scrapped since 2010!

And I think there we have it - execution of the Momentum plan following probably the worst political interview I've ever seen of flooding popular social media with a campaign of "yes but he's a good man personally", "Boris is worse" etc etc to try and deflect and make it seem like he is popular.

He came across terribly in all of the big issues directed at Labour - handling of Anti-Semitisme, broader taxation than just the rich, what he will do if even a small proportion of the rich leave (he looks like he hasn't even considered the possibility!), where the money will come from for WASPIs, security and protection of the UK.

To be balanced, I did see something good in him - that he genuinely came across as wanting to do something for the WASPIs as it is the right thing to do - but he doesn't have the economic nouce to work out how to pay for it. And that in a nutshell is why he is incapable of being Prime Minister - it's about making the hard decisions. You can;t unfortunately always do what you think is right as you are working within fiscal constraints of what you can actually do, it's about compromise. He can't see that, and that's why he's a 6th form debater rather than a serious politician.

Labour would be an absolute disaster for this country.

Is the Chief Rabbi connected to Boris or the Tory party?
I wonder if this has a connection with Trump. He supports BJ and his leave approach, he’s also a strong supporter of the current Israeli government. So the Chief Rabbi could have been “encouraged” to make this statement.

Oh anyone with an ounce of awareness knows that a vote for Tories means a vote for leaving the EU on the worst terms possible. It's economic and social madness but that's how far to the absurd right our country has gone.

It showed him for what he is, and for what Labour is. Nobody voting Labour could be seen as thinking straight.

Oh boy, Jeremy Corbyn is very similar to many Scandinavian politicians (my homeground), who are considered fairly middle of the road.

Oh yes;

"Sweden led the EU in the share of taxes on production and imports, which accounted for 22.7 percent of GDP."

"It also had the second highest taxes on individual or household income at 15.8 percent. Only neighbouring Denmark was higher, at 25.4 percent."

So, Labour's claim that only the top 5% will see an increase in taxes is a lie then?

I hadn't thought of the Trump effect on the Chief Rabbi. Sounds authentic.

I will be voting Labour as the current government have killed the country, they are a laughing stock, under the conservative goverment police force numbers have been cut massivley, the Nhs is in dire straits, mental health services are abismal, schools are sending home begging letters, people dying because the government say they are fit to work, sucide is at an all time high.

WHY have the labour party stuck their heads in the sand for so long when its obvious JC is unelectable for so many people? Is it a reaction against new labour? Can someone explain it to me because to an outsider their loyalty to him is incomprehensible.

This for me too. I cannot understand why in the current climate, when the government has made one poor decision after another, the opposition is in the state that it's in.

I'm a Jew. I live in a Labour safe seat with a superb MP. Not a clue what I'm supposed to do come voting day even though I strongly oppose the Tories on most matters.

Given the fact that you've already claimed a bias against the Labour party in your post, I'm going to assume you're unreasonable.

@feelingsinister. People don't trust him because he's different. They want sound bites and shiny suits and he doesn't have that.

Do you know this? Has anyone even told you, or have you really overheard mass sections of the population say "I am not going to vote for Corbyn because he's different. I want sound bites and shiny suits". Why pretend like this @feelingsinister?

Let's pick a relatively "neutral" subject, like Labour's nuclear policy. Not neutral in a pro/anti nuclear way (obv it's a very non-neutral topic), just neutral in examination of Labour's policy and Jeremy Corbyn.

The policy is to renew Trident and maintain a "deterrence."
Corbyn has said he will never press the button.
If he is not willing to press the button, there is no deterrence.
So the entire policy is illogical and falls apart.

Can you not see from this very simple example, that this is the insanity that is Labour and Corbyn?

This is why people don't want him. Because of insanity like this, not shiny suits.

To be balanced, I did see something good in him - that he genuinely came across as wanting to do something for the WASPIs as it is the right thing to do

Perhaps he will make the students wait 10 years for their free tuition fees? From what academic year are Labour promising to pay them?

Of course, Trump. Read up on the beliefs of the fundamentalists who support him.

I really have struggled with the narrative being given constantly, that Labour is terrible and anti-semitic. The Tory party have similar problems and yet, the same people hating Labour, are happy to support a open bigot on the other side.
In past I have been a Tory voter but a Boris Government will never get my vote. The man is a proven liar and to be honest in keeping with this being Mumsnet-When most men cheat on their wives, the advice given by most posters is 'leave the bastard'.
So not really sure why when its comes to leading our nation, we would want a man, that leaves his cancer ridden wife for someone old enough to be his daughter?

I have a cousin who is severely autistic and I have witnessed the evil the Tory cuts have done to disabled people first hand. My cousin is non verbal, his carer hours have been drastically curtailed, funding at his school also has been cut and the strain this taken on his parents is basically inhumane. They have no respite and worry constantly what will become of their child once they die.
Care homes for disabled people still are not regulated and why? Because they are owned privately and Tory bigwig supporters need their pockets lined.

I am happy to pay more in tax, if the money goes to help those who are the most in need in our society.

Agree and vote for Corbyn all you like. We're the top 1% taxes. We won't be paying Corbyns taxes. OH will take early retirement and we are likely to leave the country. I don't think we're alone.