To think that it's impossible to vote for Jeremy Corbyn after last night's interview?

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To be upfront : I would never vote for Labour or Corbyn anyway, for various reasons.. But that was not a good interview and had I been considering it I would be very concerned now.

What is it that you think Labour should have done?
Got a leader that people want to vote for, not taken 3 years to think up a Brexit policy, did some research into why, when faced with the Tories, they can't win an election, done something about Scottish Labour, because they will never form a majority government without Scottish seats, spoken to poor and working class leave voters who will be shafted by Brexit and addressed their concerns, preferably in 2016 but any time in the past 3 years would have done.

They have a leader people wanted to vote for, and did vote for in 2017, confounding pundit expectations. Already talked about the difficulties any labour leader faces with largely right-wing media

Their Brexit policy changed over time in response to the whole process changing over time. Their policy is a very fair compromise

Research into Tory win-they will have analysed it endlessly

'done something' about Scottish Labour - again, done what?

Spoken to poor and working class leave voters - do you seriously think they haven't done that? Do you listen to labour at all or just too busy slagging them off? They constantly talk about the reasons behind the leave vote for those people - that they felt abandoned and crushed and focused their anger on the EU instead of the real Tory culprits

But didn’t bother to do anything about anti semitism until what two years after many MP’s and party members raised serious concerns apart from the report (and we all know what happened at the launch don’t embarrass yourself by defending Corbyn’s actions that day it was disgraceful)

Oh and didn’t bother dealing with Ken Livingstone until a lot of pressure was put on Corbyn and then he wasn’t dealt with he walked away

I was a member of the party until earlier this year so yes do have an idea of what is and is not going on

Still I didn’t expect much from Corbyn I had done my homework when choosing who to vote for in the leadership contest and knew of him

They should have over and over again held the government to account they have been useless and should have won the last election May’s campaigning was so poor and be in leading in front now (though May was the easier of the two to win an election against)

I fear the idiot shall still be leading the opposition this time next year with cries to its all the right wing press that are at fault

They haven’t taken three years to come up with that Brexit policy they changed policy as they feared losing too many voters (Momentum and left labour are split on EU membership)

I was getting emails from Corbyn to myself (I was a fellow comrade 🙄) supporting a soft Brexit and to stay within the customs union the result was to be stood by

Corbyn called for Article 50 to be triggered immediately the day after the referendum thankfully the idiot was ignored

EnthusiasmisDisturbed - there appears to be a weakness in your argument: you say Corbyn would never go against his principles, then say he has changed his tune on things. Which is it? He certainly seems to have betrayed his principles on nuclear weapons, as all of a sudden, Labour will do anything necessary to protect the country.

Personally, I think Corbyn and Johnson are equally unelectable. If people are more convinced of Corbyn's unelectability than Johnson's, then there is frankly something wrong with their mentality - it's like people say they are fed up with lying, manipulative politicians who don't keep their promises, but would still rather vote for one who fits that mould perfectly, because that's what politicians are supposed to be like.

You're very bitter enthusiasm, so bitter you prefer to stoke your hatred of Corbyn than think about the best interests of our country. You prefer to have the catastrophe of Johnson in Government so you might get a new Labour leader, that's how narrow your concerns are.

That's your choice but the consequences will be everyone's to suffer, and we all know the most vulnerable will suffer the most.

I don’t prefer a Tory government but that is what we shall have while Corbyn and co are leading the Labour Party so yes I feel angry about that- there are a long list of why I would never vote for Corbyn going back to what this thread was about Anti Semitism a party that didn’t bother until under scrutiny to sea with the issue, a leader than has turned a blind eye to the issue, a party that is now regarded by many to be anti Semitic will not get my vote.

I won’t vote Tory it’s not and never has been a consideration to. If it were I suddenly changed my political views I certainly wouldn’t vote for Boris Johnson the list is long too all that has been said in here.

I don’t think Corbyn will compromise his core political values anyone who is centre in politics isn’t for the people - he won’t form a coalition with them. He has with I am sure with much arm twisting agreed to a second referendum but he is remaining neutral . I don’t think a referendum goes agains this left wing core political beliefs

*deal with the issue

done something' about Scottish Labour - again, done what?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/24/rage-against-the-labour-party-from-disillusionment-to-meltdown-in-scotland
Here is an excellent article which explains how labour fell in Scotland.
Labour treated the Scottish people like compliant idiots. Labour councils were corrupt rotten boroughs for example. Here's a hint Jeremy, wearing a wee tartan scarf will do nothing for your popularity in Scotland. The leader of Scottish Labour is English- he seems to be a good man but English?

By refusing to vote Labour - assuming it might make a difference in your area - and, more importantly, by constantly attacking Corbyn, you are doing the Tories work for them. For all anyone knows on here, you are a Tory supporter really. You are tireless in your (confused) attacks on labour but never bother to weigh them against the sheer horror of a Johnson Government and Brexit

I am voting Labour because of JC and because of John McDonald. For now we have a labour party that represents the working class, even if that working class is too confused to see it. For once in a long time we have an opposition. Blaire and new Labour were not an opposition to the conservatives. One of Blaire's heros was Thatcher FFS.

I won’t vote for a party that is deemed by many to by anti Semitic, a party that has not dealt with the issue head on and until they were under scrutiny that is lead by a leader who has turned a blind eye to the issue

That is a principle I have - I expect more and better from a party I place my X next to

@MiniTheMinx
I am voting Labour because of JC

Genuine question Mini, how could you after seeing Corbyn in the car crash interview?

(btw I would ask this of anyone, of any candidate, of any party who crashed as spectacularly as that).

You duck and dive with your 'reasons' enthusiasm if antisemitism is your supposed reason why not just stated that plainly before instead of going off about the Brexit stance or coalitions?

As a jew I have no problem voting for Corbyn, I know very well what this fake 'antisemitism' issue is all about. Great to see the odious Matt Hancock getting shot down when he tried to use it in a debate to deflect from Tory lies about Nurse recruitment, i'll dig out the clip when I get a chance

You don’t but many many do not share your view

I have many reasons why I have never supported Corbyn to be leader of the party - I did my homework during the leadership campaign. I have always been outspoken critic on here of him.

The discussion evolves moved on to other subjects as it does on all threads. When responding more directlyI gave you an answer as to why I will not vote Labour at present. I have been on here for sometime I have always stated I am or I was Labour Party member/supporter/voter until the party was taken over by Corbyn, McDonnell and Momentum and I will not vote for Labour while Corbyn is leader

There is no confusion my stance has not changed the discussion evolves. I would be quite happy for Labour to have a coalition of they had a different leader (my preference is Keir Starmer)

On the issue of Brexit I voted Remain I have never supported a second referendum as I had always felt the result would be the same. I believe the referendum should never have happened and that all MP’s who voted in support of the referendum without any detailed debate have let the public down and were unprofessional to say the least.

That some on here may think I am a Tory voter doesn’t concern me that the stance that Tory voters are evil I have always found childish

Anyone watch this morning’s car crash on Marr? And that was in the face of a much softer interview technique. No wonder Johnson won’t face Neil.

I haven't read through the entire thread but I would never ever in a million years vote for this Labour government.

The mere thought of JC as Prime Minister is terrifying and incomprehensible .

For me, it doesn't bare thinking about as I get chills.

Genuinely.

Starmer’s name keeps coming up but he has kept a very low profile in recent weeks. It’s like he is trying to distance himself from all of this. I wonder if he even wants the role. Corbyn is unelectable but the far left cannot see it.

I do smile when I hear some senior Labour people stating they don’t hear that especially on the doorstep. When Diane Abbott was grabbed a few days ago at a conference she said JC was wonderful. Could anyone really imagine her as Home Secretary. She is in her own way as dangerous as Corby and McDonnell who has recently been outed as going to a private school. So Corbyn went to a private school, DA sent her son to one and now McDonnell. They all preach for comps yet do the opposite themselves.

Still, hopefully they will be trashed in the GE and we can get a more moderate opposition who will keep the Conservatives on their toes.

It wasn’t a car cash tbh. It was two blokes shouting at each other. I cannot remember a full answer given by Boris to Andrew whereas Neil gave Jeremy plenty of time to hang himself and it was much clearer to listeners that he hated who he saw as rich (but didn’t know what they contributed to tax revenue) he just wanted them to pay more, he didn’t accept the millionaires and billionaires who leave - why would they?

And he confirmed he would borrow to pay off the WASPI women who will not be means tested.

So Corbyn went to a private school

So what? He hardly made that decision, did he!

Nor did BJ about being sent to Eton then.

It must have been an awful school to be fair, JC got 2x Es at A level.

It doesn't bare thinking about what this country will be like after another 5 years of Tory rule.

To paraphrase EnthusiasmDisturbed

I have many reasons why I have never supported Corbyn to be leader of what used to be my party- I did my homework during the leadership campaign.

I have under various names always been outspoken critic on here of him.

I hope the Labour party is humiliated and crushed in this election as it is the only hope it can be taken back from the current bunch of Momentum extremists.

It doesn't bare thinking about what this country will be like after another 5 years of Tory rule

It doesn't bare thinking what it would be like after 5 years of demented Marxist rule- although Venezuela might be worth looking at as a warning.

Most people I speak to will not vote Labour, from all walks of life and mainly it’s because of Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn but hard Labour followers can’t see it, if Labour don’t win this election they won’t blame Corbyn, they will blame the voters and that is what is wrong with Labour, they think they know best.