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To think that it's impossible to vote for Jeremy Corbyn after last night's interview?

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PleaseDontLaugh · 27/11/2019 05:56

To be upfront : I would never vote for Labour or Corbyn anyway, for various reasons.. But that was not a good interview and had I been considering it I would be very concerned now.

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EllebellyBeeblebrox · 27/11/2019 08:30

NHS nurse here, labour have always had my vote and will continue to. The interview wasn't great but the Tories and all they stand for absolutely appall me and that is more important to me than how someone comes across during a fairly aggressive interview.

Ellie56 · 27/11/2019 08:30

Corbyn as PM does not fill me with delight.

But Bozo the Clown who is a lying racist misogynist twat fills me with horror. His so called deal is worse than Theresa May's deal (which was bad enough) and will sell us down the river to a back door no deal which will be a complete disaster for the country.

It will not affect him or his vile cronies as they are all rich, but it will be devastating for the rest of us and especially for the poor and disabled.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 27/11/2019 08:30

I think the idea that the Tories are economically competent when banging the drum for no deal brexit not long ago is hilarious

StatisticallyChallenged · 27/11/2019 08:31

I'm in the same boat as a PP - politically homeless. I think there's rather a lot of us watching this election with despair as there is nobody I can really support. I'm a remainer, fairly centrist, Scottish No voter..
Johnson and the tories - lying Brexit obsessed twats
Corbyn and labour - deluded, too far left and filled with crazy economic policies which would cripple the country
Sturgeon and SNP - shut up about indyref 2 and actually comcentrate on running the country, it doesn't need another fracture line right now you opportunistic sod
Swinson and lib dems - frighteningly woke and misogynistic and their revoke policy is utterly undemocratic.

Its a clusterfuck right now. Where are the adults!

Clavinova · 27/11/2019 08:31

Clavinova Labour's claim refers to the withdrawal deal, not the rest of the things that follows, as surely you know?

Fine, Labour will take an extra 6 months to negotiate a new Brexit deal, hold two referendums + years and years of trade negotiations - LIB DEMS for you then.

spacepyramid · 27/11/2019 08:33

Is that you Nicky? Shouldn't you be at your extra maths tuition?

user1480880826 · 27/11/2019 08:33

It wasn’t a great interview but labour are still preferable to the tories.

I’ve seen plenty of worse interviews with Boris. How about the time he referred to Muslim women as postboxes?

soulrunner · 27/11/2019 08:33

Bollocks. No way would a lifelong labour voter vote for Boris Johnson.

Well arguably Blair is closer to Boris than he is to Corbyn. There are a lot of voters who voted labour under Blair who obviously do vote Conservative now. Yet Labour seems to think they can get a majority by moving further and further left. No idea why. Read ‘this is all Ed Milibands fault’ . It’s tongue in cheek but it’s not too wide of the mark

Emma377 · 27/11/2019 08:34

It seems people concentrate too much on the leaders and not enough time on the policies. In the good old days labour policies were costed now labour have no idea where they are going to get money from for the pension payments to the WASPI women. Under labour a few years ago this wouldn’t have happened. We can’t saddle our children with debt of this level. It is so unfair.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 27/11/2019 08:34

I am a Tory though no fan of Boris. However, even I wouldn’t judge Corbyn (or any other leader) on how well they withstood a kicking from Andrew Neil.

Flavabobble · 27/11/2019 08:35

I have many many reservations about Corbyn, his minions and the Labour Party in general.

But...Boris?!

(Every time I have second thoughts, I just think “But...Boris?!”)

longwayoff · 27/11/2019 08:36

@ShatnersWig, thought it must be. What an interesting history he has. I know 'character' is supposedly a requirement for politicians today but it might be helpful to set a few standards for them to abide by. Like staying on the right side of the law. This would narrow the field considerably in theory but they'd probably just lie their way round it. Oh, silly me! Abiding by the law is already a requirement. Working well.

Pan2 · 27/11/2019 08:37

Well it's also very highly likely that a 2nd ref will lead to a remain response, now we know the full costs of leaving.
So protracted discussions whilst on crippling WTO rules won't happen.

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 27/11/2019 08:37

I think Labour is the least-worst option. In my constituency voting Labour is the only chance to get the Conservatives out, so I’m holding my nose and voting Labour.

At least you know what you’re getting with Corbyn, and it’s not horrendous. Whereas Johnson will lie though his teeth to get elected and then ignore all his promises and do exactly what he wants, and the only guarantee is that he doesn’t, really, want to unleash my potential.

Emma377 · 27/11/2019 08:37

Yes I’m a life long labour supporter and would vote Tory now as @soulrunner said the Tory party now is nearer to new labour than the current Labour Party is. Don’t get me wrong the tories are far from perfect. Not sure why people think it is bollocks that people can change who they vote for

Flavabobble · 27/11/2019 08:37

I will add that the local Labour MP is a particularly good one. Never had any qualms about voting for him.

Bluntness100 · 27/11/2019 08:38

However, even I wouldn’t judge Corbyn (or any other leader) on how well they withstood a kicking from Andrew Neil

I'm guessing you didn't watch it? Because it's not about how well he took being interviewed by Neil. Although most people would expect someone who wants to be prime minister to be able to manage such an interview.

The issue was the refusal to apologise for the anti semitisim he admitted to and sanction in his party, the lying or confusion about low income people paying more tax, before admitting it, the out of touch comment that for someone on 14k a year that 400 quid a year isn't much, and then the confusion or lying about how to pay for the pensions. Among many other issues that arose during the interview.

Walkaround · 27/11/2019 08:40

PleaseDontLaugh - he's no more unelectable than Boris Johnson. Boris Johnson is a career liar with no discernable principles. His entire purpose for existence is to serve himself. If you somehow find it impossible to vote for Labour because of Corbyn, but possible to vote Conservative despite Johnson, then you are not well placed to question other people's judgement.

misspiggy19 · 27/11/2019 08:42

Still better option than idiot Boris and the conservative

OverUnderSidewaysDown · 27/11/2019 08:42

I will be interested to see if Andrew Neil talks over and interrupts Boris as much as he did Jeremy last night.

ShatnersWig · 27/11/2019 08:44

For those who describe Johnson as a sexist, racist, homophobic leader, don't forget he's someone who was quite prepared to give the home address of a journalist to a friend when said friend told Johnson that he wanted to commit an act of violence on him. There is a recording for those who haven't heard about this.

That's for those who only cast their vote in their own constituency as a de facto vote for our next PM.

QuizzlyBear · 27/11/2019 08:44

I find him very uninspiring, though I do believe that he is at least well-intentioned. More than you can say for Boris, who doesn't even try to hide his self-serving lies any more.

I couldn't vote for either of them so I'll be Lib Dem!

Pan2 · 27/11/2019 08:45

PleaseDontLaugh - he's no more unelectable than Boris Johnson. Boris Johnson is a career liar with no discernable principles. His entire purpose for existence is to serve himself. If you somehow find it impossible to vote for Labour because of Corbyn, but possible to vote Conservative despite Johnson, then you are not well placed to question other people's judgement

should be put to everyone who comes up with this bollocks about Corbyn.

Namechangerextraordinaire1 · 27/11/2019 08:45

I am finidng it really hard to make a decision regarding my vote. Everyone is useless at the moment.

I speak as a relatively young person who wants to make a vote for the "right" person for my values and beliefs, but doesn't want to listen to all the one upmanship, petty arguments that seem to dominate politics now. It's like listening to a bunch of children.

I don't pretend to have a brilliant grasp of politics, but have the feeling that a lot of voters are coming from the same place as me. It's really difficult and I don't even really know where to begin.

feelingsinister · 27/11/2019 08:45

I actually find all this 'Anyone but Corbyn' stuff to be pathetic, selfish and small minded. This is coming from labour voters ffs, where's your fucking integrity?

People don't trust him because he's different. They want sound bites and shiny suits and he doesn't have that. You know what I want from a politician, someone who has integrity and a sense of justice. Someone who doesn't change their view based on what is popular and likely to win votes.

We need a labour government. That manifesto is brilliant and it addresses so much that needs to happen. Social care, health care, pensions, education etc etc etc

If you believe that the Tories give a shit about the likes of us then you are deluded.

The party do need to deal with anti-semitism better but I believe that they are trying.

I don't believe for one minute that Corbyn is anti-Semitic at all. This man has fought for years against racism and apartheid but sometimes I think doesn't quite get his point across.

Plus, as PPs have said, you're not voting for Corbyn you're voting for your local MP. These hardworking, principled people.

This election is too important for this bollocks just as it is for protest votes and spoiled ballots.